Welpee wrote:

Russian Hackers behind the leaks...

Putin clearly a Trump fan...

Trump with much more $$ coming from Russia than is being made public...

A significant number of his top people with $$ ties to Russia...somehad even been paid by them...

Trump staff behind a change in the GOP platform re Ukraine

Trump simply unwilling to say anything negative about Putin & denying intelligence briefings re hacks

Roger Stone ADMITTED ties to Assange and WikiLeaks

Assange an admitted foe of Clinton...so much so that he had to come out and say he was not out to get
Clinton because he knew his credibility was being attacked. But now:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789894503146676225

And this just out on the Julian the Great...who actually got most of his people to sign non disclosure agreements when his rape case stuff was beginning!

Not a single hack of the RNC, Trump, or Sanders campaign revealed? I expect the Russians have everything, but are being selective because they have taken sides.

Assange immediately pulling back on his comment that they were looking into getting Trump's tax returns

WikiLeaks is a dumpster for information...they take what they are given and have no control of the documents sent, OR NOT SENT...and NOTHING given to them has been anything that would compromise Trump.

I am no tech person...but I would love to know the capabilities the Russians have to doctor info they dump to Assange.

Did anyone complain when someone "illegally" released one of Trump's tax forms? That was probably done by the IRS.

Knickoftime wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:You've previously stopped answering my questions EMS so I don't expect much to change now, but a meta-question. Do you genuinely not recognize the textbook manipulation techniques apparent in this (again) link (rather than your own expressed thoughts)?

I'm not asking if you believe everything in the post, clearly you do, I just curious if you can identity WHY the information is packaged in the way it is and how it is technically crafted to illicit the response it does?

There is a science to this if you're unaware of it.

I can't agree with how you hand me guilt regarding a lack of replies. We've discussed this. You always ignored most of my good points, but did answer most questions. You picked and chose, essentially. If I remember correctly, you mentioned you only replied to my questions, ignoring true statements, so let's not be too quick to judge here - this was after I asked you. I thought this was cleared up.

Hand you guilt? Judge?

I made an accurate observation.

I don't recall any good points. Yes, like every and anyone else, I respond to what I'm inclined to respond to. That is in no way an admission I agree with things I didn't happen to respond to.

I am more concerned with the charges of inciting violence and the result, than I am the packaging of the video.

I wasn't referring to the video. I was referring to the novella you copied and pasted along with it. That too as specific structure and form designed to illicit a specific response. You ignored the question I asked about that. Why?

All I asked if you were aware of the how the sausage is made. If you recognize the techniques used. It's a simple question.

I posted something that was clearly illegal for the DNC to do and instead of getting into that

I'm pretty certain I've responded to that in detail, haven't i? The gentlemen involved should be removed from their position (they have) and their claims fully investigated.

Just as deleting tens of thousands of emails AFTER the State Department asked for them should!

Nobody is begrudging your right to your personal opinion on that matter.

Now, let's look at the actual case here. Is it absolutely not sickening that peoples lives were endangered by Clinton and the DNC regarding inciting violence at Trump rallies? That is the root question here. We have it on video, quote after quote after quote.

You can't even ask a question fairly.

Yes, if any of the things alledged actually occurred, then yes, it would be sickening and shameful. There is no place for that in the democratic process.

But whether any of those things were actually incited by the DNC (as opposed to some crackpots in DNC circles) and the Clinton campaign has not been established. And I don't believe even the Trump campaign is pushing that narrative anymore, despite the Trump Foundation funding (perhaps illegally) Project Veritas.

No good points? lol, Did you really forget that recent conversation regarding this? Your story has somewhat changed.

Regarding "packaged", I thought you were talking about the "packaging" of the video from Veritas (i.e. - How the video portrayed things, was cut, etc.) You know, the video that has caused the firing and resignation of a higher up in the DNC. That long post was just a reminder of the corruption from the Clintons.

I see nothing wrong in how I asked the question. Again, let's not twist this into being about me. It is about the corrupt actions of the DNC (and Hillary Clinton.)
And the charges are serious, no reason to *****foot around. It wasn't that long ago that the rage on the forum, and with lot's of emotion, was about what Trump said 11 years ago.

reub wrote:There are four major polls right now have that Trump winning: IBD, PPD, Rasmussen and LATimes. The media ignores them all despite at least 3 being among most accurate. Instead all I hear about is an ABC poll that was probably paid for by the Crooked one..

The IBD poll has been the most most accurate one in recent elections and has Trump up by 2 points. He's also ahead in a two person race, So don't believe everything you're being fed by the biased mainstream media.

http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-poll/

Let me guess, your TV is stuck on FOX news? Maybe do a little more reading on your own. I don't get why everyone wants to change directions so bad. In spite of the Republicans controlling the Senate and Congress, we have a strong economy. Unless you were one of those counting on a high school level education and the Internet to get you to the pinnacle of success. We have rebounded from the worst housing collapse in decades. Saved our Auto industry from non existance. And had a Prez that finally had the balls to take on the affordable health care issue. And now people are bitchin because it's not perfect? Typical. And the guy you are hoping wins is a massagonistic racist egomaniac that reacts to any criticism like a 200 pound 10 year old spoiled brat who just got called fat. Funny how this arrogant low class guy resignates with so many ignorant uneducated people who want to blame others for their negative standing. What's great is that those who think everyone in America are white, religious middle americans on the verge of racism are proven wrong every election. Thats when they realize how disconnected they truly are to what the majority of Americans truly are. And it's not rich white catholics living in Iowa.

reub wrote:There are four major polls right now have that Trump winning: IBD, PPD, Rasmussen and LATimes. The media ignores them all despite at least 3 being among most accurate. Instead all I hear about is an ABC poll that was probably paid for by the Crooked one..

The IBD poll has been the most most accurate one in recent elections and has Trump up by 2 points. He's also ahead in a two person race, So don't believe everything you're being fed by the biased mainstream media.

http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-poll/

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/

The last presidential election 538 pretty much nailed it.

reub wrote:There are four major polls right now have that Trump winning: IBD, PPD, Rasmussen and LATimes. The media ignores them all despite at least 3 being among most accurate. Instead all I hear about is an ABC poll that was probably paid for by the Crooked one..

The IBD poll has been the most most accurate one in recent elections and has Trump up by 2 points. He's also ahead in a two person race, So don't believe everything you're being fed by the biased mainstream media.

http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-poll/

Bonn1997 wrote:

reub wrote:There are four major polls right now have that Trump winning: IBD, PPD, Rasmussen and LATimes. The media ignores them all despite at least 3 being among most accurate. Instead all I hear about is an ABC poll that was probably paid for by the Crooked one..

The IBD poll has been the most most accurate one in recent elections and has Trump up by 2 points. He's also ahead in a two person race, So don't believe everything you're being fed by the biased mainstream media.

http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-poll/

They don't have Trump winning. They have it as a statistical tie. IBD underestimated Obama by 2.3 percentage points last time.

Welpee wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

reub wrote:There are four major polls right now have that Trump winning: IBD, PPD, Rasmussen and LATimes. The media ignores them all despite at least 3 being among most accurate. Instead all I hear about is an ABC poll that was probably paid for by the Crooked one..

The IBD poll has been the most most accurate one in recent elections and has Trump up by 2 points. He's also ahead in a two person race, So don't believe everything you're being fed by the biased mainstream media.

http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-poll/

They don't have Trump winning. They have it as a statistical tie. IBD underestimated Obama by 2.3 percentage points last time.

Actually they do have Trump +2. 538 determined their poll has a +2 republican bias and they list it as a tie.

reub wrote:The polls that the lemmings are following are polling many more Democrats than Republicans. That's called oversampling. As an example there's a poll in Arizona that has Hillary slightly ahead that polled 35% more Democrats than Republicans! Many more women than men. They are fixed. Wikileaks has proven this corruption. Think for yourself and don't let the mainstream media brainwash you with propaganda.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-23/new-podesta-email-exposes-dem-playbook-rigging-polls-through-oversamples

reub wrote:If you read the Wikileaks info you'll see that Hillary has had this plan of oversampling polls for over a year.

Also, please note that 7 million more Democrats voted in the 2008 Democratic primary than in this year's and yet the mainstream polling assumes that the turnout (and enthusiasm) is the same among Democrats when it clearly is not. Btw, Republican primary voting has increased by millions and yet these bogus polls assume that their enthusiasm is down.