Chandler wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

DLeethal wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Feels like something is off in locker room- ego’s or whatever we sucked.

I think there’s a 60M elephant in the room that everyone knows is a team defense killer

Kat is horrible no doubt but can’t single him out as Brunson was destroyed by anyone he got close to. Hart was brutal and OG was destroyed.

Hell even with Kat on the bench we had Mitch/OG/Mikal continuing to leave Turner wide open at the basket off simple high screen action.

If OG isn’t going to score he can’t get destroyed on D —- yuck.

I'll second the call to not single out KAT. Indy has Haliburton who sucks at D. Issue is they are exposing KAT better than we are at exposing Haliburton. The answer is to not expect KAT to turn into Bill Russel, but to run more plays for him so he can use his offensive gifts and get the other team in foul trouble. My suggestion FWIW is heavy dose of KAT especially early in game, and move the frigging ball around

Defense was good for much of the game and exceptional for portions.

Nah it’s not a KAT thing solely it’s a starting lineup thing. The data since January is irrefutable and now the masses are seeing it in blatant fashion in this series. KAT has a role on this team but we can’t let this starting lineup dig holes every night and continue to advance.

Notice how we came back double digits in almost every Pistons win? Came back from 20, 20, and 14 against Boston? Well that magic runs out eventually. Can’t keep digging holes. And it’s the starters, every single time.

LivingLegend wrote:The last thing I was expecting tonight was Siakim putting 39 on OG on 15-23.

that was a huge surprise. I would have thought they wouldn't even feed Siakam that much. But he took whatever the defense gave him

My hope is the Knicks focus on guarding all 5 guys because if they adjust to plug the Siakam hole, I fear the Nembard, or NEsmth or Hali hole will open

If we play a solid, balanced game I still think we're the better team. We have two all NBA guys, with the other starters being Bridges Hart and OG who are all damn good. We need to punish them with our starting 5 more.

Chandler wrote:We need to punish them with our starting 5 more.

At this point I'd accept the starting 5 simply being above water...

DLeethal wrote:

Chandler wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

DLeethal wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Feels like something is off in locker room- ego’s or whatever we sucked.

I think there’s a 60M elephant in the room that everyone knows is a team defense killer

Kat is horrible no doubt but can’t single him out as Brunson was destroyed by anyone he got close to. Hart was brutal and OG was destroyed.

Hell even with Kat on the bench we had Mitch/OG/Mikal continuing to leave Turner wide open at the basket off simple high screen action.

If OG isn’t going to score he can’t get destroyed on D —- yuck.

I'll second the call to not single out KAT. Indy has Haliburton who sucks at D. Issue is they are exposing KAT better than we are at exposing Haliburton. The answer is to not expect KAT to turn into Bill Russel, but to run more plays for him so he can use his offensive gifts and get the other team in foul trouble. My suggestion FWIW is heavy dose of KAT especially early in game, and move the frigging ball around

Defense was good for much of the game and exceptional for portions.

Nah it’s not a KAT thing solely it’s a starting lineup thing. The data since January is irrefutable and now the masses are seeing it in blatant fashion in this series. KAT has a role on this team but we can’t let this starting lineup dig holes every night and continue to advance.

Notice how we came back double digits in almost every Pistons win? Came back from 20, 20, and 14 against Boston? Well that magic runs out eventually. Can’t keep digging holes. And it’s the starters, every single time.

It's not only that. We get Kat to play with spacing. Yet we legit never actually do it. Why the hell get Kat to never use him the way we should to make thing easy for Brunson. Thibs has been a coaching anchor for years. iHart covered up his bad coaching last season. Now its back on full display.

GustavBahler wrote:

knickslions wrote:Boston is way better than pacers. This is brutal

Look what the Pacers did to the Cavs. Windhorst said after the last game that the Pacers came back to win the game (I forget the time frame) three times in a row. And no other team in NBA playoff history had ever done it more than twice in a row. Pacers are no joke.

I blame Gustav for this loss.

DLeethal wrote:Not a Knicks reporter

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https://www.twitter.com/samquinncbs/status/1926105338249388438

OUCH - it sure feels like this watching. I’m yelling get Hart out of here or get Mitch in.

Also thought he ran Mitch too long in 1st half - he looked gassed / dead second half.

Too soon?

LivingLegend wrote:The last thing I was expecting tonight was Siakim putting 39 on OG on 15-23.

No, but if you didn't expect one of their scrubs to have a career night, I don't know what team you've been watching all these years.

Clean wrote:

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https://www.twitter.com/FrankBarrett119/status/1926128534046507480

Instead of adjusting he stuck by the one of the worse and most played lineups since they been tracking this kind of data.

YUCK -

GustavBahler wrote:

knickslions wrote:Boston is way better than pacers. This is brutal

Look what the Pacers did to the Cavs. Windhorst said after the last game that the Pacers came back to win the game (I forget the time frame) three times in a row. And no other team in NBA playoff history had ever done it more than twice in a row. Pacers are no joke.

Nope, it’s the Knicks who are a joke.

I hated how the media focused so much on the Game 1 collapse because the Pacers played like they were in NBA Live and had so many lucky bounces, but was really hoping the Knicks would come out with fire, showing it was just a blip and they were focused on getting the win. But this one, THIS GAME was the real embarrassment. You lose like that Game 1 and then you don’t fight back Game 2? You let everyone know you really lost the series in Game 1. Horrible. Embarrassing. This team, for all their issues on the roster, has an even bigger problem mentally and with focus. That’s why I have been so down on the coaching staff even in better moments. We seem to show our potential for greatness but only for spurts. Then we revert back to not knowing wtf we are doing and just being an embarrassment.

What a horrible disappointment. I’m really tired of Thibs and Co.