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Nalod wrote:Clean, there was a locker room incident where he and the writer confronted.
As I said, this kind of stuff riles up fans and for the player it gets personal.
I understand Embiid is not loved around here and perhaps with max contract players should absorb all kinds of things but the line gets thin at times and they are human.

I understand that part but the whole confrontation happened because of this article. I can't see why Embiid is angry from what I just read. The guy said nothing wrong about his brother or son.

I think Embiid is angry that he is always injured and just needed to lashout at someone. Obviously this is pure speculation but if you watch his interview from a few days ago he seemed angry then to.

I have had the same reaction as you have. I don't have a good enough context or background about this writer, so there may be personal history here too that we are unaware of.

Embiid has publicly talked about this personal history and what it means to him. That is my understanding.

I have the opposite reaction. Writer could have made the same exact point saying same exact thing and leaving his little brother out of it.

I read it as him accusing Embiid of not only being out of condition/lazy ( fair game) but dragging his little brother into it as a phony pledge to his deceased brother. IMO no need to go there. That’s the writer being selfish

I agree, the writer was using Embiid's dead brother as well as his son to disparage him. You cant say stuff like that and hide behind "I wasnt criticizing them" That writer was lucky Embiid didnt do worse. This is the part of the article he deleted..

Joel Embiid consistently points to the birth of his son, Arthur, as the major inflection point in his basketball career. He often says that he wants to be great to leave a legacy for the boy named after his little brother, who tragically died in an automobile accident when Embiid was in his first year as a 76er. Well, in order to be great at your job, you first have to show up for work.

Don't see it. The writer is repeating what Embiid has said in the past. Joel shouldn't share those details if he's going to attack anyone who repeats them. Embiid was using his dead brother to try and deflect from the fact that there was a lot of true words written in that column.

Its the subtext. The writer is implying that Embiid is letting his family down, living and deceased. You bring up family as a writer, as an outsider, when they succeed, not when you believe they've failed. Bad form, its not his place to do that.

If Embiid had killed someone and gotten life in jail, ok. Not for living up to the writer's expectations as a professional athlete. Too much.

Seems like that is what YOU re implying that the writer is repeating.

Why bring it up then? So many ways the writer could have pointed out how Embiid was not living up to expectations, instead of bringing up family. Thats what the theme of the article was, wasnt it? Even the writer realized it was inappropriate, deleted that passage, and apologized.

You bring it up to provide context. Like, I literally knew none of that. I now know it. That is the entire point of context. Now I know the background information. Anyone saying its subtext or saying he is implying anything is adding to what writer actually said. Unless you know what is going on in his head you have no idea and to cast that on someone else is a you problem. I deal with the things I know and can prove in situations like this. The writer said nothing wrong about his family. Simple as that. The exception being if there is a history here I know nothing about. Has he said something bad about his family before? I mean actually said something bad and none of this putting words in his mouth stuff I see people doing.

Doesnt have to say something bad about his family. He is using the memory of his dead brother, as well as his son as a prop to diss Embiid. Thats wrong, wasnt necessary.

Even the writer realized that it was inappropriate, deleted the passage, and apologized. The writer realized that what he did was bad form.

Can you let us know what you know about Embiid has said about his brother in this context? Seems like you know this.

He said that they were an inspiration. Wasn’t the place of a sportswriter to question his sincerity. Again, the writer admitted that what he did was wrong in bringing up Embiid’s family in this context. He isn’t defending his actions, regrets them, not sure why you are.

I am not.

I am asking if you have any additional context. I take that as a no?

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Read Maxey played like the whole game the other day.
He out "weeks" with a Hammy. Blame Thibs.
GSW are 7-1. I guess they miss Klay? Oh, he "looking for love in all the right places"............
Klay is doing well, avg 15 per and shooting 38% from 3p. Good for him. Good for love.
Sixers are 1-6. They getting healthy.....Oh, wait. Maxey out. PG13 back. Embiid returns vs knicks.
Cavs? I bet some of you think as soon as Mitch is back they are ****ed? Like just knowing he on the court in other cities will live in their heads.
That was two years ago and they have a new coach. Mobley is a man now and paid like one!

So early........Fun stuff.

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martin wrote:Their whole starting lineup is hurt besides Zion?

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Are you saying trading for my man MitchBeast would make them less injured?

Oh, I’m just saying if you wanna really tank, might as well go for it

This is a year to do it!

Or not!

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The thing about Grimes is he always thinks he is better than his talent says he is. I think all the promise we thought he had got to his head. He wanted to show he was more than a 3 and D player and was talking like players on the Knicks were holding him back.

When Jerry West tells your team after being drafted that you're a keeper, its hard not to get a little ****y. But like Frank after he got drafted by Phil with his rep. Both of them acted like they were further along than they were, and acted like playing at the next level would happen almost effortlessly. None of us witnesed either player show any new moves, nothing added to their bag of tricks. If anything they got more timid.

Grimes went to an ideal situation. A cellar dwellar where could cut loose, less pressure. Just one season there. He's still young, Kolek's age, but not much time to figure things out until he's thinking of playing overseas I imagine.

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martin wrote:Their whole starting lineup is hurt besides Zion?

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Are you saying trading for my man MitchBeast would make them less injured?

Oh, I’m just saying if you wanna really tank, might as well go for it

This is a year to do it!

Or not!

Zion: “I’m here for the tank too!!!”

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I wonder what his availability, and game would be like at 240-250?

Going from 0-100 in a flash, and carrying all that weight. No wonder his hamstrings keep giving him problems.

BigDaddyG wrote:

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martin wrote:Their whole starting lineup is hurt besides Zion?

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Are you saying trading for my man MitchBeast would make them less injured?

Oh, I’m just saying if you wanna really tank, might as well go for it

This is a year to do it!

Or not!

Zion: “I’m here for the tank too!!!”

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I wonder what his availability, and game would be like at 240-250?

Going from 0-100 in a flash, and carrying all that weight. No wonder his hamstrings keep giving him problems.

It's tricky.He did lose weight and, from anecdotal reports, he doesn't look nearly as explosive at the rim. He's shooting below average at the rim this season.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/zion-williamson-shot-chart
Weight loss needs to be gradual or you end up losing muscle and explosiveness as well. I just can't figure out why the NOP staff hasn't come up with a plan that makes sense for Zion in the long-run.

Cause he too busy with the Insta babes