Looking forward to rumors we can chew on!

Jimbo5 wrote:Will the knicks be a better team if they can trade Mitch and IQ plus a pick or two for Ayton the make another trade to swap Randle and RJ plus a pick or two for Siakam and OG? Siakam is not better than Randle offensively but is a better defender, i think OG is a little better than RJ both offensively and defensively. Ayton will adda new dimension to the team offensively while still having some defensive presence in the interior.all these new players are still young. Try to sign DiVincenzo and call up Rokas to solidify the bench.

Starters: Ayton, Siakam, OG, Grimes and Jalen

Bench : Ihart, Obi, Hart, DiVincenzo, Rokas or Duece.

Let’s make Ayton happen

foosballnick wrote:

KnixinSix wrote:Lets go through the current list of possibly to likely available vs likely not available based on recent rumors....

Group A (guys that play both offense and can play D at average to better level)

Siakam
OG
Mitchell (has the ability to play above average defense in right system)
KP (injury prone)
Paul George (age)

Group B (elite offensive players but medium to high defensive liabilities)

KAT
LaVine (Injury prone)
Derozan

Truthfully combining contracts , defense , cost to trade for, and roster contruction all together my favorite 2 moves would be for 2 group A guys in Siakam and Mitchell.

I absolutely love Donovon Mitchell and think he'd be a high level 2 way player here. Hes young and on a lower star contract for the next 2 years. He is also durable. Yes he gives up some height. But we have Grimes and Hart to back him up at the 2. Also he would only be on the floor about 20-24 minutes total together with Brunson. He cam also play the 1. Then your counter move would be to shore up the front court defense with a stud defender in Siakam who can gaurd both the 3 and the 4 and even play some 5 depending on Matchups.

Mitch Rob/Siakam
Siakam/Obi
Hart/FA
D-Mitch/Grimes
Brunson/D-Mitch/McBride

Assets to be moved: RJ,Randle, Quickley, Fournier, DRose, 5-6FRPs

Why would the Cavs move Donovan When they just gave up a boatload to get him last year?

Regarding Siakam. Just don't see it. He's a career .327 shooter from 3 and is the same age as Randle.

Siakam is better than Randle in the key areas this team needs most. Defense and can play mainly 4 but can also defend 3 and 5 depending on matchup. Scoring without the ball. His defense is a huge component for a Thibs team. He also becomes the dynamic scoring 5 to complement Mitchell Robinson.

Donovan wants to play here and Cleveland might have realized the Garland/Mitchell backcourt is not ideal. Again not necessarily a likely scenario to happen but I would say the possibility exists. LaVine might be more realistic.

Alpha1971 wrote:Would you trade IQ for Herb Jones ? Then sign DiVincenzo MLE.

Like, why?

Alpha1971 wrote:Would you trade IQ for Herb Jones ? Then sign DiVincenzo MLE.

Another rotation player that can’t shoot. Not what we need.

Philc1 wrote:

JesseDark wrote:A name that heard mentioned on a talk show is Naz Reid, backup center on Minnesota. He can shoot the 3,is only 24 and also an unrestricted free agent. Could be good addition to prevent defenses from packing the lane. Of course one of the centers would have to go.

Interesting thought but I think he’s more of a PF than a C. Wants $10 mil per season. If we trade Obi this summer we should definitely take a look at signing him to 2-3 year deal.

Twolves probably won’t resign him because they just traded the farm for Gobert and have KAT locked up

6’9 with 7’3 wingspan. Has size for small ball center I suppose.
That he is UFA makes him valuable. Lots of teams will look at him at that price point.
Obi is a different type of player and we might be seeing him walk also?

Gudris wrote:Bring back Porzingis, he loves to play with Brunson

In the name of winning I would do it.

I say all of this loving the guy, but we either have to integrate him in some way or we're playing with a handicap.

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Gudris wrote:Bring back Porzingis, he loves to play with Brunson

In the name of winning I would do it.

KP didn't help Dallas or Washington, what makes you think a renewal of nuptials with the Knicks will flourish?

The concept is good but the player is as iffy as KP is tall, skinny, and oft-injured.

Exactly. KP is fools gold. Always was and always will be. Let him rot with the wizards or whatever team with cap space that’s dumb enough to offer him a contract

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Gudris wrote:Bring back Porzingis, he loves to play with Brunson

In the name of winning I would do it.

KP didn't help Dallas or Washington, what makes you think a renewal of nuptials with the Knicks will flourish?

The concept is good but the player is as iffy as KP is tall, skinny, and oft-injured.

Not gonna lie. You take the 18 foot jump shot out of KP’s repertoire and put him on the same shooting chart as Randle was using to start the season and you have a player as good or better than Markannen. The only question is IF he is coachable.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/lauri-markkanen-shot-chart-by-season

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kristaps-porzingis-shot-chart-by-season

If you track KP by season, his shot chart is improving. Now the key thing for me in that Shot Chart is that he is best from the 3 point line behind the top of the key. This means that you 1) are pulling a big out of the paint, 2) have a big man back on defense. This is what Brook Lopez is for Giannis. Let Zingis be this for Randle and let Randle ball out.

Injury, cost, attitude(?) are all reasons not to do this. But if I am looking for the argument why it makes sense to make it work, it’s because he is 7’3 with a 7’6 wingspan that historically shot 35-40% from 3 at the top of the key. That’s archetype player you want for Brunson and Randle to do their thing in the half-court set. Add two 3&Ds that can move without the ball and the ability to complete a swing pass and you have the team I am looking for.