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12/13/2020  9:42 PM
I missed 1st half...but quickley looks like a better fit at PG than DSJ. I rather see quickley grow in that roll, than to sit on the bench behind DSJ. And this is coming from a person who wanted to draft him instead of frank. And wanted him in the Dallas trade. Well...its time to go. I like quickley potential
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12/13/2020  9:43 PM
Geez, this might be the worst 3 point shooting team in Knicks history. But you know who can shoot threes? Cade Cunningham, that's who.
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12/13/2020  9:43 PM
blkexec wrote:I missed 1st half...but quickley looks like a better fit at PG than DSJ. I rather see quickley grow in that roll, than to sit on the bench behind DSJ. And this is coming from a person who wanted to draft him instead of frank. And wanted him in the Dallas trade. Well...its time to go. I like quickley potential

Quickley didn't get a chance to get any open looks because the Pistons were doubling the ball-handler off the pnr's...Hope Quick gets another look next game.

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12/13/2020  9:44 PM
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12/13/2020  9:44 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Geez, this might be the worst 3 point shooting team in Knicks history. But you know who can shoot threes? Cade Cunningham, that's who.

Next years pg will be one of Cade, Suggs or....Lonzo.

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12/13/2020  9:47 PM
Bullock played like a steaming pile of shat today, missing open shots and free throws. He should have been left in the bus
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12/13/2020  9:48 PM
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BigDaddyG
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12/13/2020  9:48 PM
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Geez, this might be the worst 3 point shooting team in Knicks history. But you know who can shoot threes? Cade Cunningham, that's who.

Next years pg will be one of Cade, Suggs or....Lonzo.

I just need Cade to hurry up and sign with CAA already.

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12/13/2020  9:49 PM
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Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Geez, this might be the worst 3 point shooting team in Knicks history. But you know who can shoot threes? Cade Cunningham, that's who.

Next years pg will be one of Cade, Suggs or....Lonzo.

I just need Cade to hurry up and sign with CAA already.

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12/13/2020  9:52 PM
It seems to me that there is a real bad chemistry when MR and DSJ are on the floor together. DSJ's out of control passes seem to frustrate the hell out of Mitch which leads to silly fouls.

One of the real dangers of this "let's build up..." DSJ and Randle theory is that they both F up everyone else and its not only obvious but painful to watch.

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12/13/2020  9:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/13/2020  9:58 PM
If Thibs was really interested in winning, he would have brought Burks and Payton back. About minutes. We need a lot more offense from the PG position. Smith plays like a 40 year old PG. Making plays, but not moving the needle on offense. Has to make quicker reads of the D. Push the tempo. Both Frank and DSJr look the same, more or less.

If RJ moves to the 3, like to see Thibs experiment with Quickley at the 2. Very early but I liked the way Quickley attacked the rim. The way he stays in motion like a boxer, dribble, posture. Kind of reminds me of Sprewell. IDK if Quickley has that extra gear, that Spree had. But I see the skill set of a player who could be a real threat at the rim.

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12/13/2020  9:59 PM
GustavBahler wrote:If Thibs was really interested in winning, he would have brought Burks and Payton back. About minutes. We need a lot more offense from the PG position. Smith plays like a 40 year old PG. Making plays, but not moving the needle on offense. Has to make quicker reads of the D. Push the tempo. Both Frank and DSJr look the same, more or less.

If RJ moves to the 3, like to see Thibs experiment with Quickley at the 2. Very early but I liked the way Quickley attacked the rim. The way he stays in motion like a boxer, dribble, posture. Kind of reminds me of Sprewell. IDK if Quickley has that gear, that Spree had. But I see the skill set of a player who could be a real threat at the rim.

I think you can read Thibs' mind when you see Frankie and Quickly on the floor together - that's a combo that will eventually click, IMO as a second unit.

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12/13/2020  10:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/13/2020  10:17 PM
fwk00 wrote:It seems to me that there is a real bad chemistry when MR and DSJ are on the floor together. DSJ's out of control passes seem to frustrate the hell out of Mitch which leads to silly fouls.

One of the real dangers of this "let's build up..." DSJ and Randle theory is that they both F up everyone else and its not only obvious but painful to watch.

Think Everyone else around them do a decent job on their own F..ing themselves up. We probably don't have 1 player that would start on good NBA team that competes deep in the Playoffs. The rest would struggle to make the rotation on those teams. It is a work in progress. 20 years in the making. Lot's of young players that are inconsistent. Rose will pick a few that show promise and trade the rest for proven talent.

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12/13/2020  10:02 PM
One thing I’d really like to see is Payton on the second unit... put dsjr Frank quickley in to start, because teams know they can play off our pg when Payton starts which always ends in a slow start.

Plus we have plenty of vets to start we need someone to help vet guide that second unit . I saw a lot of youthful mistakes in that second unit.

I’m mad tibs played bullock over Frank I thought Frank was one of the main reasons we blew them out in the first game:

Quickley needs some burn at PG

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12/13/2020  10:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/13/2020  10:05 PM
fwk00 wrote:It seems to me that there is a real bad chemistry when MR and DSJ are on the floor together. DSJ's out of control passes seem to frustrate the hell out of Mitch which leads to silly fouls.

One of the real dangers of this "let's build up..." DSJ and Randle theory is that they both F up everyone else and its not only obvious but painful to watch.

The chemistry looked fine on Friday when they blitzed the Pistons in the 2nd quarter...Lets see how everyone looks when it counts for real....

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12/13/2020  10:09 PM
WE really can’t call out to what Thibs should do.
Eye test is telling m Randle is still Uber important and the core first option.
Pistons denied Obi and got him out of position.
Did Knox do other thing when he was not shooting well? He pushes the ball up with long strides.
Who was passing fluidly beside Frank?
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12/13/2020  10:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/13/2020  10:16 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Geez, this might be the worst 3 point shooting team in Knicks history. But you know who can shoot threes? Cade Cunningham, that's who.

I’m not as concerned about it because the path to better 3pt shooting is getting Toppin into the lineup eventually and replacing Payton with a long term solution whether it’s in the draft or a free agent like Lonzo Ball or CAA client Devonte Graham. Plus Quickley eventually becoming a 3pt marksman off the bench. So the long term solutions shooting the ball are there.

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12/13/2020  11:00 PM
What I like in Quickley is how he's known for his shooting, which is why he got triple teamed. He showed you he's more than a stand in the corner type shooter.

Quickley, Burc, RJ, Randel and Noel

Since RJ and Randal play pt forward anyway. Quickley looks like he can bring the ball up as well, handling the triple team, and Burc is a compitent Vet with guard handles. Don't forget my sleeper in Myles, who hasn't played a game yet.

I think Payton was a panic move. Insurance, just in case we look foolish at PG. Well, we still look foolish, so might as well let the youngsters grab the wheel.

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12/13/2020  11:15 PM
blkexec wrote:What I like in Quickley is how he's known for his shooting, which is why he got triple teamed. He showed you he's more than a stand in the corner type shooter.

Quickley, Burc, RJ, Randel and Noel

Since RJ and Randal play pt forward anyway. Quickley looks like he can bring the ball up as well, handling the triple team, and Burc is a compitent Vet with guard handles. Don't forget my sleeper in Myles, who hasn't played a game yet.

I think Payton was a panic move. Insurance, just in case we look foolish at PG. Well, we still look foolish, so might as well let the youngsters grab the wheel.

Quickley needs to show that he can do more than just bring the ball up...he has to be able to speed the ball up and create tempo. Hopefully he gets a longer look in the next two games so he can gain some confidence.

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12/13/2020  11:34 PM
Uptown wrote:
blkexec wrote:What I like in Quickley is how he's known for his shooting, which is why he got triple teamed. He showed you he's more than a stand in the corner type shooter.

Quickley, Burc, RJ, Randel and Noel

Since RJ and Randal play pt forward anyway. Quickley looks like he can bring the ball up as well, handling the triple team, and Burc is a compitent Vet with guard handles. Don't forget my sleeper in Myles, who hasn't played a game yet.

I think Payton was a panic move. Insurance, just in case we look foolish at PG. Well, we still look foolish, so might as well let the youngsters grab the wheel.

Quickley needs to show that he can do more than just bring the ball up...he has to be able to speed the ball up and create tempo. Hopefully he gets a longer look in the next two games so he can gain some confidence.

No he doesnt....If that was true, DSJ wouldn't get any burn. I say Quickley becasue he's a shooter in a PG body with PG defense. He's the perfect player to groom into a PG. DSJ has lost his scoring confidence which was his strength....without it, he's worse than Quickley and Frank. Hes not impacting the game consistently. Seen it last yr and now in preseason.

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