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holfresh
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2/8/2017  9:47 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:
holfresh wrote:KP has to learn to fill and lane and create passing lane like Willy..

One is modelling his game after a Scola or Gasol the other a Dirk.

Doesn't mean he shouldn't roll on a pick and roll..

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2/8/2017  9:47 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:Kuz and Willy both move so well without the ball

Phil knows how to pick up players out of nowhere.
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2/8/2017  9:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2017  9:49 PM
WP76 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
WP76 wrote:Again, I wish we could combine the defense we played under Woodson with the ball movement we've seen tonight. Yeah, I know, "wish."

Woodson had a slow up feed Melo offense. Speed ball has more defensive stops it has to make as the other team gets the ball more often. Remeber St. Johns coach Carnesseca slow ball game in College. Held team to low point totals by slowing game down.

Good point. I guess that we seemed so much more committed to playing tough, tenacious defense three years ago and we've completely lost any semblance of that mentality.

Shump and Smith were under rated as defenders. We also had Kidd who defended well. Not 100 but think we had some good role defenders.

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2/8/2017  9:48 PM
3Q - 1:58
NYK 88 LAC 83
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2/8/2017  9:48 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
holfresh wrote:KP has to learn to fill and lane and create passing lane like Willy..

One is modelling his game after a Scola or Gasol the other a Dirk.

Yeah, Willy is more a traditional lane filling big. I think Rose understands how to find guys like that better. The KP comfort might come in time... though I doubt they'll play long enough for that to happen.

My biggest hope is that we get a real playmaking PG in the draft and they stick around long enough to learn KP's and Willy's spots and gain some comfort and chemistry.

yet Towns can do both. That's not a knock on KP really but he needs to get comfortable knowing when to roll and and when to pop. For some it takes time.

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2/8/2017  9:48 PM
Some Melo D and running the floor 😳
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2/8/2017  9:48 PM
Willy proving himself qgainst a top front court.
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2/8/2017  9:48 PM
Look at this game by Melo
Defensive effort
Passing the ball
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2/8/2017  9:48 PM
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
holfresh wrote:KP has to learn to fill and lane and create passing lane like Willy..

One is modelling his game after a Scola or Gasol the other a Dirk.

Yeah, Willy is more a traditional lane filling big. I think Rose understands how to find guys like that better. The KP comfort might come in time... though I doubt they'll play long enough for that to happen.

My biggest hope is that we get a real playmaking PG in the draft and they stick around long enough to learn KP's and Willy's spots and gain some comfort and chemistry.

Rose used to work a PnP with Gasol all the time. He just has to decide to do the same with KP.

KP doesn't really set good picks in the pick and pop. He needs to work on that.

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2/8/2017  9:49 PM
why no defense looks better without...posts?
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2/8/2017  9:50 PM
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holfresh
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2/8/2017  9:50 PM
I thought the key to the season was Lance Thomas or the guy who fills that role...When Lance got hurt it destroyed us..That position was supposed to help us blend the starters with the bench...
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2/8/2017  9:50 PM
Melo, hustling, bustling, muscling, sticking it to Phil
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2/8/2017  9:51 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:Look at this game by Melo
Defensive effort
Passing the ball

Cuz he is at the 4. And moving ball better. Take out the three point shots and he is having the game we want.

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2/8/2017  9:51 PM
holfresh wrote:I thought the key to the season was Lance Thomas or the guy who fills that role...When Lance got hurt it destroyed us..That position was supposed to help us blend the starters with the bench...

Yeah, Lance was just never healthy all year with the foot thing and then the broken orbital bone. He was one of our best defenders and last year had a reliable J. He was definitely missed this year.

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2/8/2017  9:51 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:Look at this game by Melo
Defensive effort
Passing the ball

Yes fantastic, now if we could pay him for one out of every 15 games, it would all work out.

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2/8/2017  9:52 PM
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2/8/2017  9:52 PM
Kuz' three point shot has completely deserted him. How many wide open threes has he bricked tonight?
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2/8/2017  9:52 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
holfresh wrote:KP has to learn to fill and lane and create passing lane like Willy..

One is modelling his game after a Scola or Gasol the other a Dirk.

Yeah, Willy is more a traditional lane filling big. I think Rose understands how to find guys like that better. The KP comfort might come in time... though I doubt they'll play long enough for that to happen.

My biggest hope is that we get a real playmaking PG in the draft and they stick around long enough to learn KP's and Willy's spots and gain some comfort and chemistry.

Rose used to work a PnP with Gasol all the time. He just has to decide to do the same with KP.

KP doesn't really set good picks in the pick and pop. He needs to work on that.

KP does need to improve but that's not why Rose hasn't been passing to him on PnP scenarios. I think Rose simply hasn't worked with him enough to get chemistry with him.

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2/8/2017  9:52 PM
crzymdups wrote:Melo, hustling, bustling, muscling, sticking it to Phil

Sticking it? This is how he should be playing every DAMN game!

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