nixluva wrote:

Chandler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Chandler wrote:

mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

What's w the anger? People can't have opinions?

Fwiw I think it's a real concern. Good players get tired of losing. And if they don't get tired of losing you don't want them.

This team needs some wins.

This team needs to get healthy first off. We don't have enough depth to overcome MELO being out or rusty and also missing LT. this losing came after the injuries hit. It's knocked off the delicate balance and chemistry they had developed. They need a stretch where they're whole and can get back the chemistry.

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Chandler wrote:

mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

GTOH

STOP TALKING NONSENSE!!!

Dont believe Fisher has lost the team, but from time to time don't understand the decisions he makes.

That's fair! He doesn't always make the best decisions but also most of our issues are player related. MELO and KP missing shots isn't about coaching. Guys not being athletic or quick isn't about coaching. Fish has a VERY slim margin for error. If he had better talent at key spots he looks like a better coach! This is just the way it works.

I agree w what you say but it's also true better coaches have lost better teams. Eg bulls and Tom T

This team needs some wins. Cures a lot of ills

mreinman wrote:Al:

"team really means to run much more PnR and much less triangle"

Wally:

"Yes. They really do. The triangle seems to get them a lot of mid range shots that the other teams want them to take"

Wally and Al should STFU and learn some triangle sh1t before they talk ISH!!

The Knicks were winning running Triangle before the injuries! It's not the system!!! It's the execution.

Cartman718 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Chandler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Chandler wrote:

mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

What's w the anger? People can't have opinions?

Fwiw I think it's a real concern. Good players get tired of losing. And if they don't get tired of losing you don't want them.

This team needs some wins.

This team needs to get healthy first off. We don't have enough depth to overcome MELO being out or rusty and also missing LT. this losing came after the injuries hit. It's knocked off the delicate balance and chemistry they had developed. They need a stretch where they're whole and can get back the chemistry.

you got a 1000 excuses when it can all be summed into one statement:
right now, fisher cannot successfully coach this team, halthy or not.

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Chandler wrote:

mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

GTOH

STOP TALKING NONSENSE!!!

Dont believe Fisher has lost the team, but from time to time don't understand the decisions he makes.

That's fair! He doesn't always make the best decisions but also most of our issues are player related. MELO and KP missing shots isn't about coaching. Guys not being athletic or quick isn't about coaching. Fish has a VERY slim margin for error. If he had better talent at key spots he looks like a better coach! This is just the way it works.

I agree with the thrust of your argument, but I also believe Fisher's unpredictable substitutions are making things more difficult than need be. We probably disagree on how big an effect its having on the outcome, but Im pretty sure we can agree that there is room for improvement from both the coaching staff and the players.

Knicks to improve the PG spot and coaching staff

Chandler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Chandler wrote:

mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

GTOH

STOP TALKING NONSENSE!!!

Dont believe Fisher has lost the team, but from time to time don't understand the decisions he makes.

That's fair! He doesn't always make the best decisions but also most of our issues are player related. MELO and KP missing shots isn't about coaching. Guys not being athletic or quick isn't about coaching. Fish has a VERY slim margin for error. If he had better talent at key spots he looks like a better coach! This is just the way it works.

I agree w what you say but it's also true better coaches have lost better teams. Eg bulls and Tom T

This team needs some wins. Cures a lot of ills

Yeah if we can put a steak of 3/4 games together it would be a huge help but they're just in a horrible funk of losing which is killing them mentally.

newyorker4ever wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Knicks have numbers on the fast break and slow it up so they could take a jump shot. In essence, what's wrong with this team as a whole.

AA isn't that fast or athletic and MELO isn't in any condition to really explode either. We have to get more push from Gallo, Jerian and DWILL. This isn't really a fast or athletic line up.

Im sorry, did i missed something, because we played even slower when those 3 were in..look, if your not pounding it in your teams head and running consistently in practice..

You think they aren't instructing these players to push the ball and play with energy?

Fisher has said that he tells them to run and pick up the pace all the time but they just don't do it. If the players don't play like they're asked/told to play then how is that on Fisher?? I just don't get it.

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:Al:

"team really means to run much more PnR and much less triangle"

Wally:

"Yes. They really do. The triangle seems to get them a lot of mid range shots that the other teams want them to take"

Wally and Al should STFU and learn some triangle sh1t before they talk ISH!!

The Knicks were winning running Triangle before the injuries! It's not the system!!! It's the execution.

no it's the adjustments made by opposing teams. its up to the coach to tweak the system...something fisher is incapable of right now.

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:This team just needs to get to the all-star break. Try to win this game, try like hell to win the Washington game. Then they have almost two weeks off to get healthy and practice. They'll look much better after the break.

I agree!!! The problems all started with the rash of injuries and fatigue.

It is weird that everything went to hell after Melo sprained his ankle. Up until then we are healthy, hustling and rarely getting blown out. After that injury we look more like the trash that was last years team.