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Malcolm
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12/10/2015  11:58 PM
The thing about the Knicks Triangle at this stage is that ALL of the players (except Vujacic) are doing things that are NOT second-nature to them.

That's okay when it works . . . but when it stops working, they lose confidence and either freeze up or revert to what they're used to.

It's sort of ugly to watch, sure. But imagine what it must be like on the floor . . . if the players are not really convinced that the Triangle can EVER work.

How old is Carmelo -- 31 (?) He's been playing BASKETBALL for 20 years. He THINKS that's what the Knicks are still about now. But he's wrong. It's the TRIANGLE . . .
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TPercy
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12/10/2015  11:58 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Maybe we should consider trading to get Rose from Chi; or better yet, offer Rondo a boat load of money

Derrick Rose? You really think he would be a good idea?

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12/10/2015  11:58 PM
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:KP got fouled on one, bad pass on the other and missed a gimme FT line shot.
Mainly they went with him at 5, Melo at 4 and all of a sudden they got better play on BOTH ends.
Closed the half strong with that lineup.

The coaches have to realize that RLO can only be used as a token starter (first 7 min max of each half) and the rest of the time he's an insurance for Porzingis at the 5 spot in the case on FT or injury.

Hope we see more of that in the 2nd half. We also need our guards to be FAR more aggressive in attacking the D and not just being Traffic Cones out there. Too much RoLo handling the ball and not enough of the guards calling for A screen and going with a 2 man.


We need to get more PNR with Grant and KP.

Grant cannot play with KP right now as primary options. Way too many mistakes.

Grant right now is playing terrible.

Had some decent games before the last one.

His confidence is shot right now.

His biggest concern on the floor right now is to not make a mistake...which is not good.

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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12/10/2015  11:59 PM
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:KP got fouled on one, bad pass on the other and missed a gimme FT line shot.
Mainly they went with him at 5, Melo at 4 and all of a sudden they got better play on BOTH ends.
Closed the half strong with that lineup.

The coaches have to realize that RLO can only be used as a token starter (first 7 min max of each half) and the rest of the time he's an insurance for Porzingis at the 5 spot in the case on FT or injury.

Hope we see more of that in the 2nd half. We also need our guards to be FAR more aggressive in attacking the D and not just being Traffic Cones out there. Too much RoLo handling the ball and not enough of the guards calling for A screen and going with a 2 man.


We need to get more PNR with Grant and KP.

Grant cannot play with KP right now as primary options. Way too many mistakes.

Grant right now is playing terrible.


It is because we are not playing him to what he is most comfortable with. He had a very fluid thing going with Porzingis dating back to summer league and I would bet anything that it would still work right now. Porzingis will get a lot of efficient shots in PNR and Grant can be in his comfort zone because that is where is he is most effective.

EXACTLY!!!
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12/10/2015  11:59 PM
Yeah KP!!!
Knicks1969
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12/10/2015  11:59 PM
TPercy wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Maybe we should consider trading to get Rose from Chi; or better yet, offer Rondo a boat load of money

Derrick Rose? You really think he would be a good idea?

We desperately need a PG

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/10/2015  11:59 PM
Good move kp
TPercy
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12/10/2015  11:59 PM
Lopez has to play some help d on that play
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12/11/2015  12:00 AM
Casspi only going to his right...KP has to overplay.
EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
Knicks1969
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12/11/2015  12:00 AM
No adjustment by our coach; oh, he does not know how to do so
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/11/2015  12:00 AM
We're still in this game.
TPercy
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12/11/2015  12:00 AM
Malcolm wrote:The thing about the Knicks Triangle at this stage is that ALL of the players (except Vujacic) are doing things that are NOT second-nature to them.

That's okay when it works . . . but when it stops working, they lose confidence and either freeze up or revert to what they're used to.

It's sort of ugly to watch, sure. But imagine what it must be like on the floor . . . if the players are not really convinced that the Triangle can EVER work.

How old is Carmelo -- 31 (?) He's been playing BASKETBALL for 20 years. He THINKS that's what the Knicks are still about now. But he's wrong. It's the TRIANGLE . . .

+100

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mreinman
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12/11/2015  12:01 AM
melo clear out!!

doing

so here is what phil is thinking ....
clyderules
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12/11/2015  12:01 AM
TO Melo. Just bad. Is he washed up or rusty?
mreinman
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12/11/2015  12:01 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:Casspi only going to his right...KP has to overplay.

you beat me!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/11/2015  12:02 AM 
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12/11/2015  12:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2015  12:03 AM
Good half time adjustment. Put KP at 5 and Lopez on the bench so that KP gets fed at the post and Melo on the back post. Also keeps KP from having to guard Caspi off dribble.
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TPercy
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12/11/2015  12:03 AM
Its apparent that we need to start running the plays of the triangle that fit the skill set of the triangle.
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clyderules
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12/11/2015  12:03 AM
Fish with a good T. We need more of that.
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12/11/2015  12:03 AM
Melo just got hammered on offense and the refs called it out of bounds on the Knicks. Then Melo gets called for a touch foul on the other end.

At least Fisher got a technical.

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