gunsnewing wrote:been saying the same thing for years azamatbagatov. It won't sink in until Melo is sitting on the bench in a suit in the same chair occupied by Mcdyess & Allan Houston and many others with 2-3yrs left on his contract. As the countdown on Melo's days as a knick and his expiring contract begins. We are not getting any younger. 41+ years since our last championship

Which is why you keep your draft picks.

CrushAlot wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

If Melo is really considering LA that means New York really and maybe never meant anything to him.

Maybe he is just tired of waiting for a guy that can play other than JR. Reports now are that Pau probably goes back to LA if Melo goes there. Melo, Pau, Kobe, Randle and possibly even a healthy Nash is much better than what he would be running with on the Knicks.

He isn't going to LA unless Lebron is going with him. Only thing Melo is waiting for is Lebron's situation to play out.

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

If Melo is really considering LA that means New York really and maybe never meant anything to him.

Maybe he is just tired of waiting for a guy that can play other than JR. Reports now are that Pau probably goes back to LA if Melo goes there. Melo, Pau, Kobe, Randle and possibly even a healthy Nash is much better than what he would be running with on the Knicks.

He isn't going to LA unless Lebron is going with him. Only thing Melo is waiting for is Lebron's situation to play out.

Dont see how the Lakers would be able to get Lebron and Melo with Kobes deal. Even if they renounce the entire team outside Randle and Kobe they would only have 31 million in cap space. Laker fans seem to believe they have enough for 2 max deals and give Pau 10 million a year

Jmpasq wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:been saying the same thing for years azamatbagatov. It won't sink in until Melo is sitting on the bench in a suit in the same chair occupied by Mcdyess & Allan Houston and many others with 2-3yrs left on his contract. As the countdown on Melo's days as a knick and his expiring contract begins. We are not getting any younger. 41+ years since our last championship

yep you would think seeing the same thing happen over and over would eventually sink in. The Knicks should get ready for the players coming off rookie deals as their core pieces.Those contracts arent crippling like the super max deals. You can get 3 of those guys and still have room for a couple spare parts.

You keep your talent. You keep your picks. You keep building. ITs not that hard.

Just say you dont want Melo. You dont like the guy, you would rather suck and be warm and cuddly with hope... why make stuff up about a guys health to make you feel better about not wanting him back.

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

If Melo is really considering LA that means New York really and maybe never meant anything to him.

Maybe he is just tired of waiting for a guy that can play other than JR. Reports now are that Pau probably goes back to LA if Melo goes there. Melo, Pau, Kobe, Randle and possibly even a healthy Nash is much better than what he would be running with on the Knicks.

He isn't going to LA unless Lebron is going with him. Only thing Melo is waiting for is Lebron's situation to play out.

Dont see how the Lakers would be able to get Lebron and Melo with Kobes deal. Even if they renounce the entire team outside Randle and Kobe they would only have 31 million in cap space. Laker fans seem to believe they have enough for 2 max deals and give Pau 10 million a year

LA is a comfort move. Big market, has a house out there, media isnt as obnoxious, etc

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:been saying the same thing for years azamatbagatov. It won't sink in until Melo is sitting on the bench in a suit in the same chair occupied by Mcdyess & Allan Houston and many others with 2-3yrs left on his contract. As the countdown on Melo's days as a knick and his expiring contract begins. We are not getting any younger. 41+ years since our last championship

yep you would think seeing the same thing happen over and over would eventually sink in. The Knicks should get ready for the players coming off rookie deals as their core pieces.Those contracts arent crippling like the super max deals. You can get 3 of those guys and still have room for a couple spare parts.

Must be the starphuch syndrome. Im actually more excited to see he development of Hardaway Larkin and Early more than trying to sign guys over 30 to monster deals

good teams do both. People want the Spurs model. Well the closest thing the Knicks could do would be to resign Melo, add another star player and continue the very recent trend of addding young talent. Why cant Larkin, THrj and Early develop while the Knicks are competing for the Atlantic? You need young guys. You need fresh legs. There is absolutly ZERO reason the Knicks cant do both. Thats why you pay a GM $12mm. To field a winner and build at the same time.

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:been saying the same thing for years azamatbagatov. It won't sink in until Melo is sitting on the bench in a suit in the same chair occupied by Mcdyess & Allan Houston and many others with 2-3yrs left on his contract. As the countdown on Melo's days as a knick and his expiring contract begins. We are not getting any younger. 41+ years since our last championship

yep you would think seeing the same thing happen over and over would eventually sink in. The Knicks should get ready for the players coming off rookie deals as their core pieces.Those contracts arent crippling like the super max deals. You can get 3 of those guys and still have room for a couple spare parts.

Must be the starphuch syndrome. Im actually more excited to see he development of Hardaway Larkin and Early more than trying to sign guys over 30 to monster deals

good teams do both. People want the Spurs model. Well the closest thing the Knicks could do would be to resign Melo, add another star player and continue the very recent trend of addding young talent. Why cant Larkin, THrj and Early develop while the Knicks are competing for the Atlantic? You need young guys. You need fresh legs. There is absolutly ZERO reason the Knicks cant do both. Thats why you pay a GM $12mm. To field a winner and build at the same time.

If melo signs for less great but if he doenst i dont think it will matter because i trust Phil and think he is gonna make the knicks a long term playoff team. Lets go knicks!!

Well more than half the teams make the playoffs each year. You basically just have to be a top 20 NBA team to make the playoffs in the east!

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

If Melo is really considering LA that means New York really and maybe never meant anything to him.

Maybe he is just tired of waiting for a guy that can play other than JR. Reports now are that Pau probably goes back to LA if Melo goes there. Melo, Pau, Kobe, Randle and possibly even a healthy Nash is much better than what he would be running with on the Knicks.

He isn't going to LA unless Lebron is going with him. Only thing Melo is waiting for is Lebron's situation to play out.

Dont see how the Lakers would be able to get Lebron and Melo with Kobes deal. Even if they renounce the entire team outside Randle and Kobe they would only have 31 million in cap space. Laker fans seem to believe they have enough for 2 max deals and give Pau 10 million a year

it would be Kobe, Melo, Randle, Pau (at about $10mm) and Nash. They have a couple kids on tiny contracts also.

LA is a comfort move. Big market, has a house out there, media isnt as obnoxious, etc

I agree LA is made for Melo and Lala of course

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:been saying the same thing for years azamatbagatov. It won't sink in until Melo is sitting on the bench in a suit in the same chair occupied by Mcdyess & Allan Houston and many others with 2-3yrs left on his contract. As the countdown on Melo's days as a knick and his expiring contract begins. We are not getting any younger. 41+ years since our last championship

yep you would think seeing the same thing happen over and over would eventually sink in. The Knicks should get ready for the players coming off rookie deals as their core pieces.Those contracts arent crippling like the super max deals. You can get 3 of those guys and still have room for a couple spare parts.

Must be the starphuch syndrome. Im actually more excited to see he development of Hardaway Larkin and Early more than trying to sign guys over 30 to monster deals

good teams do both. People want the Spurs model. Well the closest thing the Knicks could do would be to resign Melo, add another star player and continue the very recent trend of addding young talent. Why cant Larkin, THrj and Early develop while the Knicks are competing for the Atlantic? You need young guys. You need fresh legs. There is absolutly ZERO reason the Knicks cant do both. Thats why you pay a GM $12mm. To field a winner and build at the same time.

If melo signs for less great but if he doenst i dont think it will matter because i trust Phil and think he is gonna make the knicks a long term playoff team. Lets go knicks!!

Well more than half the teams make the playoffs each year. You basically just have to be a top 20 NBA team to make the playoffs in the east!

so what you're saying is fishmike wants to lock in on guaranteed mediocrity. madness!

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:been saying the same thing for years azamatbagatov. It won't sink in until Melo is sitting on the bench in a suit in the same chair occupied by Mcdyess & Allan Houston and many others with 2-3yrs left on his contract. As the countdown on Melo's days as a knick and his expiring contract begins. We are not getting any younger. 41+ years since our last championship

yep you would think seeing the same thing happen over and over would eventually sink in. The Knicks should get ready for the players coming off rookie deals as their core pieces.Those contracts arent crippling like the super max deals. You can get 3 of those guys and still have room for a couple spare parts.

Yea man.. I mean look at what Will Chandler, Gallo and Mosgov (that equalls about $20mm) have accomplished. Maybe we should avoid all talent that might be expensive? How is Derrick Rose?

You keep your talent. You keep your picks. You keep building. ITs not that hard.

Just say you dont want Melo. You dont like the guy, you would rather suck and be warm and cuddly with hope... why make stuff up about a guys health to make you feel better about not wanting him back.

Fish why do you get insulted if somene is a fraction critical with signing him to a mega deal at his age. i think the bring up some fair ponts. They arent bashing the guy they just are cncerned about the salary cap and potential risks if melo ets hurt which is vey possible in his 30's

Melo is certainly polarizing!

What sucks is that since the Melo trade our front office has been so bad its hard to feel warm and fuzzy about the guy, I get it.

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:been saying the same thing for years azamatbagatov. It won't sink in until Melo is sitting on the bench in a suit in the same chair occupied by Mcdyess & Allan Houston and many others with 2-3yrs left on his contract. As the countdown on Melo's days as a knick and his expiring contract begins. We are not getting any younger. 41+ years since our last championship

yep you would think seeing the same thing happen over and over would eventually sink in. The Knicks should get ready for the players coming off rookie deals as their core pieces.Those contracts arent crippling like the super max deals. You can get 3 of those guys and still have room for a couple spare parts.

Yea man.. I mean look at what Will Chandler, Gallo and Mosgov (that equalls about $20mm) have accomplished. Maybe we should avoid all talent that might be expensive? How is Derrick Rose?

You keep your talent. You keep your picks. You keep building. ITs not that hard.

Just say you dont want Melo. You dont like the guy, you would rather suck and be warm and cuddly with hope... why make stuff up about a guys health to make you feel better about not wanting him back.

Fish why do you get insulted if somene is a fraction critical with signing him to a mega deal at his age. i think the bring up some fair ponts. They arent bashing the guy they just are cncerned about the salary cap and potential risks if melo ets hurt which is vey possible in his 30's

Im not insulted at all. Not even a little. I just dont get why guys cant be honest. Why make stuff up? Melo missed 5 games last year. The year before when he did have to rest the shoulder he came back played hurt and I believe was player of the month. I mean a guy misses a couple weeks two years ago and now thats going to end his career prematurely? Thats just not being honest. I mean say his game stinks. Say he's a notch below the other star forwards. But saying its a bad signing because he's going to get hurt in 3 years is silly. It might happen... sure. And Amare might come back and give us 20/10 next year. It could happen.

Melo is certainly polarizing!

What sucks is that since the Melo trade our front office has been so bad its hard to feel warm and fuzzy about the guy, I get it.