jrodmc wrote:All we need now is a 3G4G +1 and the thread will be complete.

And some folks think no one posts racial stuff on here...yikes indeed.

Crush, how the heck did you dig up stuff like that?

Here is the thread from my email:

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Knixkik wrote:See I don't get why this team is considered old, or aging as that would imply. Melo, chandler, Felton, shumpert are all in their primes and shumpert hasn't even got there yet. No one in this group should get worse. Amare isn't in his prime but we know his situation and I don't think he declines next season from what he was this year. The other slots in this rotation are easily replaced. We lose Kidd, but can replace his 15-20 mpg. Looking at this teams average age and knowing the personnel on this team are 2 different things. Yes we need to get more talent, but I don't see where this team is any less talented or on the decline as none of our starters or main rotation players will be older than 30 with the exception of Prigioni if he returns. The biggest challenge is the improvement of other teams, but our talent will be similar and certainly shouldn't decline.

its the service time. the big three for the knicks are all 10+ years of service. thats a lot of wear/tear even for 29/30/etc. the car analogy seems to fit, 5 year old bmw with 50k miles, or 5 year old bmw with 200k miles. they may not get worse, however they probably are not going to get too much better

exactly, and when you look at it, amare is broken down before 30, tyson chandler is breaking down, remember this guy was part of a trade some years ago that was shut down because of his physical condition.. carmelo has a lot of nagging injuries, lost some lift, he is wearing down... all of these guys came into the league very young and have a lot of miles on those bodies...

Melo had his best season and I disagree with him losing lift, not sure where you see that. He has always had nagging injuries, nothing new there. Chandler had an injury this season that lingered, remember when he was healthy he had 3 20/20 games in a row. You can say this about so many players in the league. Is tony Parker wearing down? Sorry but you are confusing just being injured with wearing down. There has been no proof that Melo and chandler are on the decline. You are just saying this to justify your argument. Dwight isn't wearing down either, nor is Kevin love, or any other player injured this season. It is part of the game. Melo averaged 29 ppg this season and then tore his shoulder, yet you claim he is wearing down lol. The guy is better than ever.
Tony parker in the finals... looking fresh... no shoulder tears or groin injuries..
the excuse is the knicks are injured, now they are not injured, every team is injured... so what is it? use the injury excuse when it benefits your argument?
The knicks are an aging bunch... a lot of miles on those bodies... carmelo average 29ppg shooting about 100 times a game... what does that mean? he did wear down, if you think he is better than ever than that doesn't say much about his career..
And we are not talking about Dwight or kevin Love, as far as I know Dwight may never be the same player.. what in the heck does that have to do with the state of the knicks..
look take off the blinders!!! tyson chandler is declining, amare is shot, and carmelo has seen his best years already... he gets his shot blocked more and more now, he can't maintain any level of sustatined play on both ends of the floor, he doesn't have the stamina, the guy is breaking down slowly but surely... caqmby is toast, kenyon martin can only play 25 games per year.... come on man..
and you don't have to be on the decline, they are not getting better and where they are now is not good enough, evidence of the beating we got from the pacers, who is one of the teams getting better, along with the bulls...
either way, it don't look good!

Sorry man I see no decline in Melo. He was just banged up. He had his best season. Your opinion of him breaking down is based on your dislike and its just a guess and a reach. No statistical evidence that he is in decline. Assuming he declines from here on out is just a guess and opinion, nothing more. No nba analyst is out there saying Melo is on the decline, nor any other 29 year old without major injuries regardless of mileage.
The only reason you see him potentially declining is because he is Carmelo Anthony and you don't like him.

first of all you keep saying this is his best season and it wasn't.. You don't think he is on the decline but is he getting better.. the answer is no.... his best years are behind him... he is losing lift, getting his shot blocked more.... I see small things.. you look at his scoring, but ignore other factors... either way his best years are behind him.. and what he is now is not good enough to win...

He hasn't lost any lift, but whatever. He is 29, and unless he gets a serious injury he should maintain this level of production for a few years, same with all other big time scoring 29 year olds in the league. Usually you don't see major fall off until after 32. His best years are right now
, not behind or ahead of him. He is in his prime until you see real production lost. But the fact that you are the first one I have heard say he is past his prime doesn't surprise me. I'm sure lebron, bosh, and every other 28/29 year old is too.
he needs to get in genuine shape. his body fat percentage is easily over 12-13% and you can't have that if you want to be an elite basketball player unless you're a low post player like barkley or mo malone. when you tire you settle and when you settle you become less effective and efficient. since his window for developing basketball skills like footwork and ballhandling are beyond his reach the least he can do as a professional is get into truly superb shape. he's like 6'7" in stocking feet and should not be more than 220 pounds and 10% body fat.
Yellowboy posted a great picture of him without his body armour on. He was thin and cut. He came into camp in great shape. In the past conditioning was an issue and it may have been worse after a lockout but it wasn't this past offseason. The guy was in incredible shape and was unstoppable until Howard took him out.
picture? until someone can prove he is less than 12-13% body fat i am not buying it. some guys are naturally lean and other guys have to work really hard at it. carmelo anthony needs to work hard at removing as much sub-cutaneous, visceral fat from his body as possible.
Did you see the picture? I know it was in response to a Melo is fat post and I know you have posted about this in the past.
i think i know the one but looks can be deceiving. he is not genetically gifted the way that jordan, garnett, payton, miner etc. were but all that means is that he should be working much harder to achieve that level. if he did he would have the quickness necessary to play on both sides of the ball at the small forward position. people like to tout that he is a matchup nightmare on offense but he remains a liability on defense and this will dog him. people like to say that he needs to conserve energy but i call bull**** on that. he's part puerto rican, right? i played football, baseball, and basketball with plenty of borinquenos in my day in new york. most of them had conditioning issues in spite of their athletic skills. native new yorkers know exactly what i am talking about. in baseball you can get away with it but not basketball.

jrodmc wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

jrodmc wrote:All we need now is a 3G4G +1 and the thread will be complete.

And some folks think no one posts racial stuff on here...yikes indeed.

Crush, how the heck did you dig up stuff like that?

It is in a thread from about a month ago. The worst thing was dk kept saying if I played ball in NYC I would know what he was talking about.

Jayzus. Glad I missed that one.

So, ummmm, the Knicks are looking at getting Udrih, huh?

Anyway, Memphis has already on their roster:

Mike Conley- played 35 mins/game last year
Jerryd Bayless- played 22 mins/game last year
Keyon Dooling- played 12 mins/game last year
Tony Wroten-played 8 mins/game last year

It does not look like Udrih would get nearly as much playing time on the Grizz as he would get with us.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

jrodmc wrote:All we need now is a 3G4G +1 and the thread will be complete.

And some folks think no one posts racial stuff on here...yikes indeed.

Crush, how the heck did you dig up stuff like that?

It is in a thread from about a month ago. The worst thing was dk kept saying if I played ball in NYC I would know what he was talking about.

come on man what's with the witch hunt? don't you have better things to do? i asked you a couple of inoffensive questions you seem happy to avoid answering so how about now:

1) were you born and raised in NEW YORK CITY

if "YES" then

2) did you play basketball, football, baseball here

if you evade or practice misdirection then i think we can take it that the answer to both questions is "NO" and extrapolate from there.

and by the way, i have not PERSONALLY insulted you or anyone else here. you guys are taking political correctness too far in an attempt to get me in trouble.

Um. You tell someone you can't wait to see how Martin and Andrew moderate their thread after you post nonsense like that. Honestly had forgotten about it until I saw that.

um thank you for the evasion and misdirection we now have your answer.

so far as martin and andrew are concerned all they need to look at is the posts you have made starting at 12:06 AM.

they are not insightful but certainly inciting.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

jrodmc wrote:All we need now is a 3G4G +1 and the thread will be complete.

And some folks think no one posts racial stuff on here...yikes indeed.

Crush, how the heck did you dig up stuff like that?

It is in a thread from about a month ago. The worst thing was dk kept saying if I played ball in NYC I would know what he was talking about.

come on man what's with the witch hunt? don't you have better things to do? i asked you a couple of inoffensive questions you seem happy to avoid answering so how about now:

1) were you born and raised in NEW YORK CITY

if "YES" then

2) did you play basketball, football, baseball here

if you evade or practice misdirection then i think we can take it that the answer to both questions is "NO" and extrapolate from there.

and by the way, i have not PERSONALLY insulted you or anyone else here. you guys are taking political correctness too far in an attempt to get me in trouble.

Um. You tell someone you can't wait to see how Martin and Andrew moderate their thread after you post nonsense like that. Honestly had forgotten about it until I saw that.

um thank you for the evasion and misdirection we now have your answer.

so far as martin and andrew are concerned all they need to look at is the posts you have made starting at 12:06 AM.

they are not insightful but certainly inciting.

I went back and looked at the thread in question. You essentially called out Melo's physical conditioning due to the fact that he is part Puerto Rican. When challenged on this comment, you went on the attack and tried to justify your original comment by stating that you had experience with this type of issue based on your experience playing various sports in NYC.

I am not from NYC......and that makes little difference in the fact that your comments were racist and an affront to Puerto Ricans. The fact that you have not apologized and seem to not understand how your comments were racist is troubling. It does however put into perspective why you continue to mostly spew hate on this board.