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callmened
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7/7/2013  8:48 PM
yeah...i wanted delfino...what about dahntay jones? good wing defender
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7/7/2013  8:50 PM
bucks always seem to over pay. I don't think Delfino will work well back in mill town. I can't fault him for taking the money.
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7/7/2013  8:51 PM
Not sure how/why Collison signed for so cheap, but definitely makes you which we didn't pay Prigs what we did- and I like what Prigs brings to the table. But the guy is no offensive threat at all and that hurt us at times (even though his defense also won us some games).
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7/7/2013  8:52 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:bucks always seem to over pay. I don't think Delfino will work well back in mill town. I can't fault him for taking the money.

Shouldn't he make more than Copeland? How is Delfino overpaid? To be honest they've done very well financially signing guys this off-season

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7/7/2013  8:55 PM
VDesai wrote:Not sure how/why Collison signed for so cheap, but definitely makes you which we didn't pay Prigs what we did- and I like what Prigs brings to the table. But the guy is no offensive threat at all and that hurt us at times (even though his defense also won us some games).

It's called having a team with Synergetic people in the organization. Doc Rivers/CP3/Blake/Crawford guys will want to come there and play on the cheap or take a cut to help put a team together.

I'm waiting to see guys flock here to come play with Woody and Melo especially after we won 54gms and we are NYC right?

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7/7/2013  9:18 PM
3G4G wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:bucks always seem to over pay. I don't think Delfino will work well back in mill town. I can't fault him for taking the money.

Shouldn't he make more than Copeland? How is Delfino overpaid? To be honest they've done very well financially signing guys this off-season

Their worth about the same. I was referring to the 3rd year but that could be a team option. Delfino is a high volume sniper that plays a little defense which is good on contenders but wasteful on pretenders. Develop some young players if you can. He is not a bad player at all though and he may be a good presence in the locker room

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7/7/2013  9:22 PM
3G4G wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:bucks always seem to over pay. I don't think Delfino will work well back in mill town. I can't fault him for taking the money.

Shouldn't he make more than Copeland? How is Delfino overpaid? To be honest they've done very well financially signing guys this off-season

I think it was a good value signing. Prior to his eye injury the guy was lights out if I remember right. He seems to have been a bit injury plagued but should bounce back.
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7/7/2013  10:17 PM
Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling 9m
Source: Toney Douglas being looked at by a couple of teams to fill a backup role. #Knicks could be in play for his D, 3s & transition game.
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7/7/2013  10:31 PM
VDesai wrote:Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling 9m
Source: Toney Douglas being looked at by a couple of teams to fill a backup role. #Knicks could be in play for his D, 3s & transition game.

I really don't want TD back. Would rather get Brooks or even Telfair. I don't believe he can handle the pressure of playing in NY. That meltdown of his was epic.

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7/7/2013  10:35 PM
Knicks might be interested in Kaman but it sounds like he wants to go to LA.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--sources-chris-kaman-lakers-buzz-224315855.html

As Dwight Howard leaves Los Angeles, the Lakers and free-agent center Chris Kaman have a growing mutual interest, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Several other teams have expressed interest in Kaman, including Golden State, Atlanta, Sacramento and New York, sources said.

Discussions are still in the formative stages, but Kaman has a reputation as a hard-working, dependable 7-footer who can fill a needed role.

Kaman played his first eight NBA seasons for the Los Angeles Clippers, and a return to Southern California to join the Lakers has strong appeal to him, a league source told Yahoo! Sports.

Kaman, 31, averaged 10.5 points and 5.6 rebounds in 20 minutes a game for the Dallas Mavericks in 2012-'13.

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7/7/2013  10:37 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
VDesai wrote:Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling 9m
Source: Toney Douglas being looked at by a couple of teams to fill a backup role. #Knicks could be in play for his D, 3s & transition game.

I really don't want TD back. Would rather get Brooks or even Telfair. I don't believe he can handle the pressure of playing in NY. That meltdown of his was epic.

He's healthier and more mature. Why not bring him back as the 3rd string PG. I thought he looked pretty decent when healthy....His problem was trying to play through an injury, and just learning about the NBA and where he fit in. I think he understands his role now!

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7/7/2013  10:38 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
VDesai wrote:Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling 9m
Source: Toney Douglas being looked at by a couple of teams to fill a backup role. #Knicks could be in play for his D, 3s & transition game.

I really don't want TD back. Would rather get Brooks or even Telfair. I don't believe he can handle the pressure of playing in NY. That meltdown of his was epic.

I agree. I like Toney. I think coming back to MSG would be a big mistake for him.
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7/7/2013  10:39 PM
Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling 3h
Source: No new news on Elton Brand. #Knicks still in play. ... On a side note, hearing that Telfair might not be in play for NY. Financial
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7/7/2013  10:42 PM
blkexec wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
VDesai wrote:Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling 9m
Source: Toney Douglas being looked at by a couple of teams to fill a backup role. #Knicks could be in play for his D, 3s & transition game.

I really don't want TD back. Would rather get Brooks or even Telfair. I don't believe he can handle the pressure of playing in NY. That meltdown of his was epic.

He's healthier and more mature. Why not bring him back as the 3rd string PG. I thought he looked pretty decent when healthy....His problem was trying to play through an injury, and just learning about the NBA and where he fit in. I think he understands his role now!

I know the injury had something to do with his performance but by the time he was over it, Douglas was just a wreck. No confidence in his game at all, Bibby was outplaying him. TD played better in Houston but I wonder how he would handle going back to NY? If he's more mature and can handle it, then yes, he could be a decent third option.

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7/7/2013  10:45 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
VDesai wrote:Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling 9m
Source: Toney Douglas being looked at by a couple of teams to fill a backup role. #Knicks could be in play for his D, 3s & transition game.

I really don't want TD back. Would rather get Brooks or even Telfair. I don't believe he can handle the pressure of playing in NY. That meltdown of his was epic.

I agree. I like Toney. I think coming back to MSG would be a big mistake for him.

Yeah, TD would have to be a changed man to come back to NY and deal with all that comes with it. I don't know if that's the case though. Its a risk.

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7/7/2013  11:31 PM
LA Lakers @ LA Times ‏@latimeslakers 41m
Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Nice.

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7/7/2013  11:42 PM
CrushAlot wrote:LA Lakers @ LA Times ‏@latimeslakers 41m
Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Nice.

That's going to make a segment of this board very happy LOL. Could you see him and D'Antoni reunited? Makes me think that if they're serious about acquiring Melo that they're willing to dump MDA, this time.

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7/7/2013  11:46 PM
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CrushAlot wrote:LA Lakers @ LA Times ‏@latimeslakers 41m
Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Nice.

That's going to make a segment of this board very happy LOL. Could you see him and D'Antoni reunited? Makes me think that if they're serious about acquiring Melo that they're willing to dump MDA, this time.

I was a bit surprised they didn't dump him to keep Dwight. I don't think he will be there after this year anyway but I can't see Melo and D'Antoni reunited.
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7/7/2013  11:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/7/2013  11:55 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:LA Lakers @ LA Times ‏@latimeslakers 41m
Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers

Nice.

That's going to make a segment of this board very happy LOL. Could you see him and D'Antoni reunited? Makes me think that if they're serious about acquiring Melo that they're willing to dump MDA, this time.

I was a bit surprised they didn't dump him to keep Dwight. I don't think he will be there after this year anyway but I can't see Melo and D'Antoni reunited.

I agree. Maybe they were worried that if they fired D'antoni and Howard didn't come back they would be on the hook for his contract. One year less might be more palatable. I found this, great scoop Crush....


http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-carmelo-anthony-lakers-20130707,0,2712321.story

Carmelo Anthony could be a 2014 target for the Lakers


Armed with massive cap room, the Lakers will go shopping in 2014.

The franchise would love to lure LeBron James from Miami -- but after his second straight title, and given the craftiness of Heat President Pat Riley, it may prove a futile hope.

Another high-scoring forward may be more attainable --New York Knicks All-Star Carmelo Anthony.

While former coach Phil Jackson may not be making decisions for the Lakers, he is engaged to the team's part-owner and executive Jeanie Buss. Jackson may have given a glimpse into their thinking at a recent event at the Alex Theatre in Glendale.

"For [the Lakers] to be able to move and to adjust to the process that goes on in the NBA, you have to have flexibility. The [way] the league is structured with its new CBA and how it penalizes teams -- you can't make moves," Jackson said. "[With] guys like Carmelo and LeBron in a couple of years, you've got to be capable of making a challenge for those kinds of players."

Anthony, the NBA's scoring champion this season, has had some success in Denver and New York but has gotten as far as the conference finals only once in 10 seasons, with the Nuggets in 2009. He can opt out of the final year on his contract with the Knicks ($24.4 million) after this coming season.

In 2011, Kobe Bryant was asked which NBA player he would most like to team up with.

"I would actually like to play with Melo," said Bryant, as documented by Alex Kennedy of HoopsWorld.com in 2011. "Championships are won on the inside and I'm always thinking about winning the title. I would love to play with Melo because I would know that I have an inside presence. That's really been the biggest strength with our Lakers team."

Bryant has said many times that he and Anthony are good friends, stemming from their time together with Team USA.

The Lakers would be able to offer a four-year, $100.5-million contract to Anthony, starting at $23.5 million.

If Bryant was willing to take a pay cut to re-sign with the Lakers (at perhaps $13.5 million), a la Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan in recent years, the team could still have up to another $20 million in cap room to lure a third star.
Steve Nash might take up some of that space but the Lakers can look to either trade him before the summer, or use their "stretch provision" to pay his remaining $9.7 million over three seasons in $3.2-million chunks. In the latter scenario, the Lakers would still have about $17 million to spend.

The list of available players is evolving, but the Lakers could also look to make a trade using that cap space (perhaps with their 2014 draft pick as bait, although it cannot be dealt officially until after the draft).

A restricted free agent like Indiana's Paul George would be nearly impossible to get, given that the Pacers will have the right of first refusal. The Lakers could also choose to save some cap room for 2015, when an even longer list of players could be available including LaMarcus Aldridge, Rajon Rondo and Kevin Love.

The future for the Lakers is vague but the rebuild is coming. The team hopes to get through it in short time.

The Lakers won't have Dwight Howard under contract after he chose the Houston Rockets via free agency, but flexibility starts next summer. If Bryant is expecting another $30-million payday per season, it's going to be almost impossible for the Lakers to reload around him.

While the idea of having a lottery pick in the stacked 2014 draft might be tempting, if Bryant can return quickly to full strength after his Achilles' tendon repair, the Lakers will not be "tanking" to improve their draft position.

As for Anthony and his relationship with his former New York coach Mike D'Antoni, it would be a lot easier for the Lakers to get out of their coach's contract after a second straight mediocre season.

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7/7/2013  11:59 PM
Wow. That is a bit scary.
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