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Bonn1997
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2/27/2013  11:27 AM
knickscity wrote:I dont think gallo is doing that either....maybe the threes, but definitely not the ft%

You talking to me? I just posted his career #s.
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2/27/2013  11:30 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
knickscity wrote:I dont think gallo is doing that either....maybe the threes, but definitely not the ft%

You talking to me? I just posted his career #s.

Gallo's free throw shooting is totally inconsistent for his career and is actually heavily skewed.

alof of his numbers are riding off his short rookie season.

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2/27/2013  11:41 AM
knickscity wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
knickscity wrote:I dont think gallo is doing that either....maybe the threes, but definitely not the ft%

You talking to me? I just posted his career #s.

Gallo's free throw shooting is totally inconsistent for his career and is actually heavily skewed.

alof of his numbers are riding off his short rookie season.


His career average is 84%. This year it's 81% and last year it was 87%. He had one "down" year of slightly below 80%. Most players are +/- a few points each year - that's why you go by the career average.
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2/27/2013  11:46 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
knickscity wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
knickscity wrote:I dont think gallo is doing that either....maybe the threes, but definitely not the ft%

You talking to me? I just posted his career #s.

Gallo's free throw shooting is totally inconsistent for his career and is actually heavily skewed.

alof of his numbers are riding off his short rookie season.


His career average is 84%. This year it's 81% and last year it was 87%. He had one "down" year of slightly below 80%. Most players are +/- a few points each year - that's why you go by the career average.

Most ft shooters %'s are pretty constant throughout their careers....they dont fluctuate like gallos has.

And you can't deny his near 100% as a rook is not carrying his %'s.

Pick a random good ft shooter and see if their numbers bounce around as much as his.

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2/27/2013  12:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/27/2013  12:05 PM
His career average is 84% and he's been at at least 81% every year except one down year. That one down year he was 7 points below his career average.
Kind of like Melo being an 82% career shooter at 76% this year, right?

The first year # you're talking about is based on a sample of 27 FTs. With a reasonable sample, he's basically been a low to mid 80s FT shooter.

You're searching too hard for something negative to say about him.

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2/27/2013  12:08 PM
vdfebduderocks wrote:i wonder how anyone can actually read any posts in this thread... It's just an overload of quoted posts...

I'm surprised this thread isn't locked or dead yet. I think NYKMentality stopped posting around page 8 or so, assuming he didn't get banned yet. I think this thread has run it's course now though.

This thread ran its course 2 years ago!! How many times are we going to rehash the same sh!t over and over? This is just another in a long line of threads where these Nugget/Rocket take turns telling everyone how much of a loser Melo is. How much the Rockets and Nuggets are better than the Knicks! The Knicks are 33 and 20 and we feel a need to got back to a trade from 2 years ago? A subjetc we've discussed ad nauseam for years now? Threads like these are tough stomach and its the reason why I've been away from this board for a while.....

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2/27/2013  12:12 PM
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Kiki was awesome. Very explosive yet skilled. When he hurt his back he was done. He was done in NY. Figures.

Gallo has a bit of Kiki in him but not the explosive hops.

Alex and Melo are a bit similar on the perimeter but Melo is much stronger going to the basket and at the rim. Alex was better looking.

Combine Kiki and Alex and your getting a similar player to melo but not as good.

kiki also had huge hands, could palm the ball going to the hoop Dr J style....

Combine Kiki and Alex and your getting a similar player to melo but not as good.

I find it breathtakingly amazing how good some of you think carmelo is... wow.... I saw a lot of Alex english, he also is from columbia so I grew up knowing a lot about him since I have family from that area originally... Both he and carmelo are scorers, except alex was just better in that area.. not really that close if you ask me...

as far as kiki goes, you are right, injuries shortened his career, but in his prime, when healthy, he was another mid 20ppg scorer who shot over 50%.... something carmelo has never done...

forget combining these guys, individually I think they were better than carmelo to be honest...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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2/27/2013  12:14 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Kiki was awesome. Very explosive yet skilled. When he hurt his back he was done. He was done in NY. Figures.

Gallo has a bit of Kiki in him but not the explosive hops.

Alex and Melo are a bit similar on the perimeter but Melo is much stronger going to the basket and at the rim. Alex was better looking.

Combine Kiki and Alex and your getting a similar player to melo but not as good.

Kiki and Gallo were/are both caucs - thats it

Kiki could shoot - Gallo, not so much

Not much to compare


How many 6'10" forwards shoot better than 37% from 3 point range and 84% from the line? How many players of any size do that, actually?!

really, I wouldn't have even bothered with that, you know where his comments are coming from.... but you make a good point, and I would like to add, that kiki and gallo are very different tho.. now both were good team players as both can be effective off the ball.. kiki was unique.. great hands, big hands, good at finishing and coming off screens.. just a good, savy and slick player.... I liked kiki a lot, just hate that by time he got to NY, his health had betrayed him.... I would take both he and gallo in a heartbeat... add alex english to that as well...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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2/27/2013  12:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/27/2013  12:21 PM
I'd Trade Melo For This Dude Straight Up!

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2/27/2013  12:25 PM
3G4G wrote:I'd Trade Melo For This Dude Straight Up!

rofl!!

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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2/27/2013  12:44 PM
Nalod wrote:Iverson was the league MVP the year he went to the finals.

Iverson was not in the conversation that year, he WAS the conversation.

Apples and oranges for anyone looking to directly correlate Melo's career and the players he has been with.

His record as a member of the knuggs and Knicks speak for itself.

He is not a league MVP nor has he "taken" a team to the finals.

He is pre MVP and pre two times in teh finals "Dirk".

Dirk had that stigma on him too. Then he rose up.

Don't matter who these guys play with because you either do it or not.

Basically there are the great players who win MVP's but go deep in teh playoff s often like Ewing, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Payton, etc who are the great players of their era but either never MVP or Champions for a myriad of reasons. Sometimes its a "Jordan" who blocks you or "Hakeem" who did the knicks. Sometimes bad luck like the Miami brawl for the knicks and the suns for their brawl when Nash getting body slammed by Spurs.

Melo has no MVP nor enough playoff "Moments" to carry him to that elite status that some have already bestowed upon him.


How's it going Nalod?

Considering his supporting cast, Big Bird would have won the MVP if he took that squad to the playoffs. This in no way proves that he's better than Melo. Not saying is isn't or is, just rebutting that statement :)

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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2/27/2013  12:50 PM
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Nalod wrote:Iverson was the league MVP the year he went to the finals.

Iverson was not in the conversation that year, he WAS the conversation.

Apples and oranges for anyone looking to directly correlate Melo's career and the players he has been with.

His record as a member of the knuggs and Knicks speak for itself.

He is not a league MVP nor has he "taken" a team to the finals.

He is pre MVP and pre two times in teh finals "Dirk".

Dirk had that stigma on him too. Then he rose up.

Don't matter who these guys play with because you either do it or not.

Basically there are the great players who win MVP's but go deep in teh playoff s often like Ewing, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Payton, etc who are the great players of their era but either never MVP or Champions for a myriad of reasons. Sometimes its a "Jordan" who blocks you or "Hakeem" who did the knicks. Sometimes bad luck like the Miami brawl for the knicks and the suns for their brawl when Nash getting body slammed by Spurs.

Melo has no MVP nor enough playoff "Moments" to carry him to that elite status that some have already bestowed upon him.


How's it going Nalod?

Considering his supporting cast, Big Bird would have won the MVP if he took that squad to the playoffs. This in no way proves that he's better than Melo. Not saying is isn't or is, just rebutting that statement :)

I don't understand your "rebuttal"?

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2/27/2013  2:24 PM
tkf wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Kiki was awesome. Very explosive yet skilled. When he hurt his back he was done. He was done in NY. Figures.

Gallo has a bit of Kiki in him but not the explosive hops.

Alex and Melo are a bit similar on the perimeter but Melo is much stronger going to the basket and at the rim. Alex was better looking.

Combine Kiki and Alex and your getting a similar player to melo but not as good.

kiki also had huge hands, could palm the ball going to the hoop Dr J style....

Combine Kiki and Alex and your getting a similar player to melo but not as good.

I find it breathtakingly amazing how good some of you think carmelo is... wow.... I saw a lot of Alex english, he also is from columbia so I grew up knowing a lot about him since I have family from that area originally... Both he and carmelo are scorers, except alex was just better in that area.. not really that close if you ask me...

as far as kiki goes, you are right, injuries shortened his career, but in his prime, when healthy, he was another mid 20ppg scorer who shot over 50%.... something carmelo has never done...

forget combining these guys, individually I think they were better than carmelo to be honest...

Next up,
1) why Dan Issel makes Melo look like a pile of old cow shit, and
2) why the vid of a monkey doing pushups has not been called out as a racial slur...

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2/27/2013  6:27 PM
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Kiki was awesome. Very explosive yet skilled. When he hurt his back he was done. He was done in NY. Figures.

Gallo has a bit of Kiki in him but not the explosive hops.

Alex and Melo are a bit similar on the perimeter but Melo is much stronger going to the basket and at the rim. Alex was better looking.

Combine Kiki and Alex and your getting a similar player to melo but not as good.

kiki also had huge hands, could palm the ball going to the hoop Dr J style....

Combine Kiki and Alex and your getting a similar player to melo but not as good.

I find it breathtakingly amazing how good some of you think carmelo is... wow.... I saw a lot of Alex english, he also is from columbia so I grew up knowing a lot about him since I have family from that area originally... Both he and carmelo are scorers, except alex was just better in that area.. not really that close if you ask me...

as far as kiki goes, you are right, injuries shortened his career, but in his prime, when healthy, he was another mid 20ppg scorer who shot over 50%.... something carmelo has never done...

forget combining these guys, individually I think they were better than carmelo to be honest...

Next up,
1) why Dan Issel makes Melo look like a pile of old cow shit, and
2) why the vid of a monkey doing pushups has not been called out as a racial slur...

LMFAO

Good Post Bro!

Not to go back and re-visit the actual trade, but lets take a closer look at our team pre-trade.

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