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1/1/2013  8:48 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
NYDiva wrote:Carmelo is their entire offense. This team really misses Felton.

That my friend is REALLY SAD.

Yup.

mr 5-19 would certainly be a valuable addition to this game.

The element that he brings to the game is severely missed. No one is getting into the teeth of defense sans Melo's post ups. Felton breaks the defense down and forces them to rotate which opens up the floor for others...

Lets get a PG here who can penetrate and not shoot

This is the real world not fantasy basketball. No one is coming in here to save the day. Felton can get it done. He was really good first couple of weeks of the season. He's inconsistent but he'll get it back on track, and then will slip again at some point but thats who he is...
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1/1/2013  8:50 PM
playa2 wrote:You know what I noticed, the rest of the team panders the offense to Melo And JR . This is why the rest of our guys aren't fluid offense. Melo is unguardable, but him on the court should make the rest of our team better with guys moving without the ball. Even Brewer got a driving layup on ball movement. We won't beat top defensive teams with this mindset. Woody has to give the guys courage to look off Melo and JR sometimes in favor of ball movement to the open man like back doors. When ever we play well the ball moves and everybody is included in the offense. This is starting to bother me.

The fact that we gave up 58 pts at half should bother you more....If we rebound and defend the PNR we win...
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1/1/2013  8:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2013  8:51 PM
playa2 wrote:You know what I noticed, the rest of the team panders the offense to Melo And JR . This is why the rest of our guys aren't fluid offense. Melo is unguardable, but him on the court should make the rest of our team better with guys moving without the ball. Even Brewer got a driving layup on ball movement. We won't beat top defensive teams with this mindset. Woody has to give the guys courage to look off Melo and JR sometimes in favor of ball movement to the open man like back doors. When ever we play well the ball moves and everybody is included in the offense. This is starting to bother me.

Melo and JR are iso-genious. They are quite useless in motion offense... So what are you talking about?

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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1/1/2013  8:51 PM
arkrud wrote:
playa2 wrote:You know what I noticed, the rest of the team panders the offense to Melo And JR . This is why the rest of our guys aren't fluid offense. Melo is unguardable, but him on the court should make the rest of our team better with guys moving without the ball. Even Brewer got a driving layup on ball movement. We won't beat top defensive teams with this mindset. Woody has to give the guys courage to look off Melo and JR sometimes in favor of ball movement to the open man like back doors. When ever we play well the ball moves and everybody is included in the offense. This is starting to bother me.

Melo and JR are iso-genious. They are quite useless in motion offense... No what are you talking about?

We are ranked in the top 5 offensively...But I know, it aint beautiful enough for you....
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1/1/2013  8:52 PM
arkrud wrote:
playa2 wrote:You know what I noticed, the rest of the team panders the offense to Melo And JR . This is why the rest of our guys aren't fluid offense. Melo is unguardable, but him on the court should make the rest of our team better with guys moving without the ball. Even Brewer got a driving layup on ball movement. We won't beat top defensive teams with this mindset. Woody has to give the guys courage to look off Melo and JR sometimes in favor of ball movement to the open man like back doors. When ever we play well the ball moves and everybody is included in the offense. This is starting to bother me.

Melo and JR are iso-genious. They are quite useless in motion offense... So what are you talking about?


This is why the rest of the guys DON'T PLAY DEFENSE !!!!

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1/1/2013  8:52 PM
playa2 wrote:You know what I noticed, the rest of the team panders the offense to Melo And JR . This is why the rest of our guys aren't fluid offense. Melo is unguardable, but him on the court should make the rest of our team better with guys moving without the ball. Even Brewer got a driving layup on ball movement. We won't beat top defensive teams with this mindset. Woody has to give the guys courage to look off Melo and JR sometimes in favor of ball movement to the open man like back doors. When ever we play well the ball moves and everybody is included in the offense. This is starting to bother me.

I think Woodson is the one pandering to Melo (and sometimes JR) at the expense of ball movement. I obviously dont know for sure but when he has little to no reaction after one of their bad iso shots, it makes it seem as if he has no problem with them taking those.

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1/1/2013  8:52 PM
Calm down. This falls on Woody for bringing in Amare at the 5 instead of the 4 with Camby at the 5. We only down 11
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1/1/2013  8:53 PM
How did we come back against sac-town ? Did you forget ? Everybody got into the offense so they hustled on defense.
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1/1/2013  8:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2013  8:54 PM
Uptown wrote:
arkrud wrote:
playa2 wrote:You know what I noticed, the rest of the team panders the offense to Melo And JR . This is why the rest of our guys aren't fluid offense. Melo is unguardable, but him on the court should make the rest of our team better with guys moving without the ball. Even Brewer got a driving layup on ball movement. We won't beat top defensive teams with this mindset. Woody has to give the guys courage to look off Melo and JR sometimes in favor of ball movement to the open man like back doors. When ever we play well the ball moves and everybody is included in the offense. This is starting to bother me.

Melo and JR are iso-genious. They are quite useless in motion offense... No what are you talking about?

We are ranked in the top 5 offensively...But I know, it aint beautiful enough for you....

It is cool and we need Melo and JR at the court all the time and a couple of decoy shooters like Novak, Kid, Coupe...
What STAT, Brew, Whites are for I am not sure. Just ballast.

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1/1/2013  8:54 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Calm down. This falls on Woody for bringing in Amare at the 5 instead of the 4 with Camby at the 5. We only down 11

Thats it. I was scratching my head at Amare coming in @ the 5 when we were already getting pounded on the glass. Camby should have gotten in sooner at the expense of Novak...
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1/1/2013  8:55 PM
playa2 wrote:How did we come back against sac-town ? Did you forget ? Everybody got into the offense so they hustled on defense.

Lol yeah it seems that way. Tysons one of the most obvious with that mindset. During the Brooklyn game he started to D up Lopez really well after Felton was force feeding him lob passes

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1/1/2013  8:55 PM
arkrud wrote:
Uptown wrote:
arkrud wrote:
playa2 wrote:You know what I noticed, the rest of the team panders the offense to Melo And JR . This is why the rest of our guys aren't fluid offense. Melo is unguardable, but him on the court should make the rest of our team better with guys moving without the ball. Even Brewer got a driving layup on ball movement. We won't beat top defensive teams with this mindset. Woody has to give the guys courage to look off Melo and JR sometimes in favor of ball movement to the open man like back doors. When ever we play well the ball moves and everybody is included in the offense. This is starting to bother me.

Melo and JR are iso-genious. They are quite useless in motion offense... No what are you talking about?

We are ranked in the top 5 offensively...But I know, it aint beautiful enough for you....

It is cool and we need Melo and JR at the court all the time and a couple of decoy shooters like Novak, Kid, Coupe...
What STAT, Brew, Whites are for I am not sure. Just ballast.

Offense isn't the problem, we just gave up 58 pts at the half. Its the defensive end that will get us back in the game and hopefully over the top....
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1/1/2013  8:56 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Calm down. This falls on Woody for bringing in Amare at the 5 instead of the 4 with Camby at the 5. We only down 11

It falls on Woody but this is not the reason.
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1/1/2013  8:56 PM
Uptown wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Calm down. This falls on Woody for bringing in Amare at the 5 instead of the 4 with Camby at the 5. We only down 11

Thats it. I was scratching my head at Amare coming in @ the 5 when we were already getting pounded on the glass. Camby should have gotten in sooner at the expense of Novak...

yep outrebounded by 13 and countless points in the paint for Portland
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1/1/2013  8:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2013  8:57 PM
Uptown wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Calm down. This falls on Woody for bringing in Amare at the 5 instead of the 4 with Camby at the 5. We only down 11

Thats it. I was scratching my head at Amare coming in @ the 5 when we were already getting pounded on the glass. Camby should have gotten in sooner at the expense of Novak...

Camby is a sub for Chandler... Same player without hoops.
Novak is OK rebounder and defender. Much better that STAT for sure.

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1/1/2013  8:58 PM
Melo going for 50 tonight maybe? :D
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1/1/2013  8:58 PM

Stats Stat's
0 pts on 0/5 shooting, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 1 block, 1 turnover, and 1 foul
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1/1/2013  8:59 PM
Tyson/Camby. I want to see us get outrebounded now and give up so many points in the paint!
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1/1/2013  8:59 PM
OGkush121 wrote:Melo going for 50 tonight maybe? :D
we might need 60 from him
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1/1/2013  9:00 PM 
3rd Qtr 10:33
NYK 49 POR 60
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