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6/23/2012  8:11 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:No on Nash and no to Kidd. They guy everyone is scared to say is Delonte West. Can play the 1 and 2 plus defend. Everyone knows his issues but I think he would be a great choice and he would not be afraid of any moment.

Not opposed to west but he hasnt done much since his celtic and cav days

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6/23/2012  8:15 PM
callmened wrote:Too many tangents here...first lin now scott layden..lol...then internet beef...lol

Overall...lin has the potential to b a decent pg..the main things to worry abt is his knee and not running an mda offense...pgs tend to look great in mda offenses...anywyas whether we like it or not...he will b he starting pg...woody already declared that...if nash or kidd come...which they WONT...they will b tutoring lin...and thats exactly y they wont come...dolan knows lin is a marketing jackpot...so he will pressure woody to play him...unless ur mark sanchez..were not gonna have a backip who will get more attention than lin

THe more realistic option is felton...yes he might be fatter than his first time around...but he can at least serfe as a decent back up

Next we have 3sg...we dont need anoher

We need front court help...i vote to get camby and odom

Please forgive my typos..my cel phone sux)

I never got the notion that mda made jeremy lin. I hear michael kay say that a lot and we all know he knows nothing about the nba. Lin is not an up & down the court speed machine like a young kidd & nash or even ray felton. He excels in the halfcourt breaking down defenses with his penetrating finishing and dishing. If anything he struggle with the fullcourt press and if you go back to his early scouting reports you will see that the scouts agree. The key is to have another ballhandler playing next to him in the backcourt not named sf landry fields
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6/23/2012  8:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/23/2012  8:21 PM
Also callmened kidd is not getting a starting job at 40 and already said he wants to backup lin or dwill at this stage in his career. Could he be trying to drive up the price buy using the knicks as countless other free agents have done? Maybe but he is a realistic option. And felton being young is going to be looking for a longterm contract and a starting job maybe the lakers being that the often heralded ramon sessions proved to be a bust who cant shoot that many had him red flagged with
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6/23/2012  8:24 PM
holfresh wrote:When you are hurt all the time and couldn't perform in the playoffs because your house got robbed, very easily....
So we trade him for a guy that costs twice as much with a blown out knee. That pick could of been Nene or Amare. Yeah great trade
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6/23/2012  8:26 PM
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Jmpasq wrote:I loved Camby I still cant believe we traded him. Such a terrible trade. How do U trade a 6'11" Double Double guy who had 5 years controlled on the deal at 5 million a year

Simple answer scott layden and jimmy dolan

Yeah Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley were much better value. They made the same amount as Camby. Anderson maybe even more. I seriously hate Scott Layden so much. Worst GM of all time. Way worse then Thomas
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6/23/2012  8:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/23/2012  8:30 PM

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NBA Star Jason Kidd Buys Hamptons Home in JLo's Neighborhood
Condo.com > Resources > News > NBA Star Jason Kidd Buys Hamptons Home in JLo's Neighborhood
By Joe Gonzales
Wednesday January 04th, 10:00 AM

Jason Kidd, a star player with the Dallas Mavericks in the National Basketball Association, has purchased a newly constructed home on two acres in the trendy Long Island, New York, community of South Hampton. He paid $5.595 million for the luxury residence located in the Water Mill neighborhood, where actress and singer Jennifer Lopez bought a mansion not long ago for $18 million.

Kidd’s six-bedroom, six-bath home is a custom-built residence with 5,500 square feet of living area above ground. On the lower level is another 2,300 square feet of living space and includes a staff’s suite and recreational areas. Outside recreational features include an all-weather tennis court and heated pool with cabana and fireplace. The home is located at 100 Flying Point Road.

Kidd, 38, has been playing in the NBA for 17 years and has one year left on his contract with the Mavericks. His Dallas condo is listed for sale.

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6/23/2012  8:29 PM
JamesKPolk wrote:Layden was not the GM until 2001. Ed Tapscott was in that position.

He didn't draft Weis, Ewing trade was his fault, Dolan gave Houston that contract and the Nene/Camby/Jackson for McDyess trade was praised at the time.

Every single Knick fan wanted Artest. What an idiot.U would think he was trying to destroy the Knicks

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6/23/2012  8:33 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Also callmened kidd is not getting a starting job at 40 and already said he wants to backup lin or dwill at this stage in his career. Could he be trying to drive up the price buy using the knicks as countless other free agents have done? Maybe but he is a realistic option. And felton being young is going to be looking for a longterm contract and a starting job maybe the lakers being that the often heralded ramon sessions proved to be a bust who cant shoot that many had him red flagged with

The Knicks real woes are at SG. Lin is basically a given for 30-35 minutes if we keep the Bird rights. Who is the starting SG and swing man off the bench.Landry Fields? I cant take another year of Landry Fields. I hope they can trade him for a draft pick that better fits the team.
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6/23/2012  8:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/23/2012  8:43 PM
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holfresh wrote:When you are hurt all the time and couldn't perform in the playoffs because your house got robbed, very easily....
So we trade him for a guy that costs twice as much with a blown out knee. That pick could of been Nene or Amare. Yeah great trade

I'm giving you the reason they traded him, doesn't mean I agreed with it...I was begging for Amare at the time...

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6/23/2012  8:43 PM
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gunsnewing wrote:Also callmened kidd is not getting a starting job at 40 and already said he wants to backup lin or dwill at this stage in his career. Could he be trying to drive up the price buy using the knicks as countless other free agents have done? Maybe but he is a realistic option. And felton being young is going to be looking for a longterm contract and a starting job maybe the lakers being that the often heralded ramon sessions proved to be a bust who cant shoot that many had him red flagged with

The Knicks real woes are at SG. Lin is basically a given for 30-35 minutes if we keep the Bird rights. Who is the starting SG and swing man off the bench.Landry Fields? I cant take another year of Landry Fields. I hope they can trade him for a draft pick that better fits the team.

Agreed can we please please get a starting shooting guard who can actually shoot!!! and at leas handle the ball a little bit. I don't mind Landry being a back up small forward though. I hope Ray Allen will take the 2.5 exception he could start until Shump gets back.

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6/23/2012  9:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/23/2012  9:04 PM
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yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Exactly keyword role player. Unless Nash is coming for the full mle and dolan makea a splash. No one is coming here and overshadowing lin and what he means to new york and the league

And that will make the NY Knicks better?

What is your best idea for a back up pg?

Do you think Lin is ready to play on a level of basketball we saw the last week?

I don't think we have any players on this roster (Except Tyson) that play at he level of the corresponding Heat starters and that includeds Melo and Amare - so exactly why should Lin be benched again? We don't have a window of beating the Heat with Melo and Amare put down the kool aid.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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6/23/2012  9:08 PM
Wow, I am still wrapping my head into this.
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6/23/2012  9:14 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:No on Nash and no to Kidd. They guy everyone is scared to say is Delonte West. Can play the 1 and 2 plus defend. Everyone knows his issues but I think he would be a great choice and he would not be afraid of any moment.

Not opposed to west but he hasnt done much since his celtic and cav days

You must have seen him this year. Very controlled and played the pg role better than he maybe ever have.

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6/23/2012  9:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/23/2012  9:24 PM
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Exactly keyword role player. Unless Nash is coming for the full mle and dolan makea a splash. No one is coming here and overshadowing lin and what he means to new york and the league

And that will make the NY Knicks better?

What is your best idea for a back up pg?

Do you think Lin is ready to play on a level of basketball we saw the last week?

I don't think we have any players on this roster (Except Tyson) that play at he level of the corresponding Heat starters and that includeds Melo and Amare - so exactly why should Lin be benched again? We don't have a window of beating the Heat with Melo and Amare put down the kool aid.

Really, you don't have to like Melo but you should be honest..Melo is an elite player that can and has played on that level...He performed down the stretch this season...He was the only player we had against the Heat that showed up, where was Chandler?...He showed up last year against Boston in the first round...Amare has tons of playoff experience in Phoenix where he has been a beast...I have to disagree with you wholeheartedly...

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6/23/2012  9:38 PM
holfresh wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Exactly keyword role player. Unless Nash is coming for the full mle and dolan makea a splash. No one is coming here and overshadowing lin and what he means to new york and the league

And that will make the NY Knicks better?

What is your best idea for a back up pg?

Do you think Lin is ready to play on a level of basketball we saw the last week?

I don't think we have any players on this roster (Except Tyson) that play at he level of the corresponding Heat starters and that includeds Melo and Amare - so exactly why should Lin be benched again? We don't have a window of beating the Heat with Melo and Amare put down the kool aid.

Really, you don't have to like Melo but you should be honest..Melo is an elite player that can and has played on that level...He performed down the stretch this season...He was the only player we had against the Heat that showed up, where was Chandler?...He showed up last year against Boston in the first round...Amare has tons of playoff experience in Phoenix where he has been a beast...I have to disagree with you wholeheartedly...

The question wasn't about showing up, it was about playing at the level we saw last week. Right now Melo isn't even on the same planet as Lebron, comparing anyone we have to Wade is a joke and Bosh is better than Amare. Show me when Melo has matched Lebron's stats from this playoff series in the playoffs - go ahead. And by stats I don't mean pts scored as the only metric. Lebron has more assists, rebounds, plays incredible defense and Melo has baby fat and a piss poor shooting efficiency. If you want to be "objective" about Lin, then take the same approach with Melo.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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6/23/2012  9:49 PM
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Exactly keyword role player. Unless Nash is coming for the full mle and dolan makea a splash. No one is coming here and overshadowing lin and what he means to new york and the league

And that will make the NY Knicks better?

What is your best idea for a back up pg?

Do you think Lin is ready to play on a level of basketball we saw the last week?

I don't think we have any players on this roster (Except Tyson) that play at he level of the corresponding Heat starters and that includeds Melo and Amare - so exactly why should Lin be benched again? We don't have a window of beating the Heat with Melo and Amare put down the kool aid.

Really, you don't have to like Melo but you should be honest..Melo is an elite player that can and has played on that level...He performed down the stretch this season...He was the only player we had against the Heat that showed up, where was Chandler?...He showed up last year against Boston in the first round...Amare has tons of playoff experience in Phoenix where he has been a beast...I have to disagree with you wholeheartedly...

The question wasn't about showing up, it was about playing at the level we saw last week. Right now Melo isn't even on the same planet as Lebron, comparing anyone we have to Wade is a joke and Bosh is better than Amare. Show me when Melo has matched Lebron's stats from this playoff series in the playoffs - go ahead. And by stats I don't mean pts scored as the only metric. Lebron has more assists, rebounds, plays incredible defense and Melo has baby fat and a piss poor shooting efficiency. If you want to be "objective" about Lin, then take the same approach with Melo.

Nobody plays like Lebron; he is, by far, the best player in the NBA. He is a once in a generation type talent. If your point is that we can't win without a player like him, then we shouldn't even bother trying to compete for the next seven years or so. There is no one in the NBA or college or overseas that is like him.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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6/23/2012  9:56 PM
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Exactly keyword role player. Unless Nash is coming for the full mle and dolan makea a splash. No one is coming here and overshadowing lin and what he means to new york and the league

And that will make the NY Knicks better?

What is your best idea for a back up pg?

Do you think Lin is ready to play on a level of basketball we saw the last week?

I don't think we have any players on this roster (Except Tyson) that play at he level of the corresponding Heat starters and that includeds Melo and Amare - so exactly why should Lin be benched again? We don't have a window of beating the Heat with Melo and Amare put down the kool aid.

Really, you don't have to like Melo but you should be honest..Melo is an elite player that can and has played on that level...He performed down the stretch this season...He was the only player we had against the Heat that showed up, where was Chandler?...He showed up last year against Boston in the first round...Amare has tons of playoff experience in Phoenix where he has been a beast...I have to disagree with you wholeheartedly...

The question wasn't about showing up, it was about playing at the level we saw last week. Right now Melo isn't even on the same planet as Lebron, comparing anyone we have to Wade is a joke and Bosh is better than Amare. Show me when Melo has matched Lebron's stats from this playoff series in the playoffs - go ahead. And by stats I don't mean pts scored as the only metric. Lebron has more assists, rebounds, plays incredible defense and Melo has baby fat and a piss poor shooting efficiency. If you want to be "objective" about Lin, then take the same approach with Melo.

Bron is the best player on the planet, no one is playing on his level...For me, I'll take Melo over Wade, and that's not a joke...When healthy, Bosh is not better than Amare...The problem with Amare is he needs a PG that is looking to get him involved...I'll take Melo with the ball in his hands with two minutes left over any player the Heat has, but that's me...You are trying to equate a guy who is essentially rookie to proven all stars...

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6/23/2012  10:06 PM
holfresh wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Exactly keyword role player. Unless Nash is coming for the full mle and dolan makea a splash. No one is coming here and overshadowing lin and what he means to new york and the league

And that will make the NY Knicks better?

What is your best idea for a back up pg?

Do you think Lin is ready to play on a level of basketball we saw the last week?

I don't think we have any players on this roster (Except Tyson) that play at he level of the corresponding Heat starters and that includeds Melo and Amare - so exactly why should Lin be benched again? We don't have a window of beating the Heat with Melo and Amare put down the kool aid.

Really, you don't have to like Melo but you should be honest..Melo is an elite player that can and has played on that level...He performed down the stretch this season...He was the only player we had against the Heat that showed up, where was Chandler?...He showed up last year against Boston in the first round...Amare has tons of playoff experience in Phoenix where he has been a beast...I have to disagree with you wholeheartedly...

The question wasn't about showing up, it was about playing at the level we saw last week. Right now Melo isn't even on the same planet as Lebron, comparing anyone we have to Wade is a joke and Bosh is better than Amare. Show me when Melo has matched Lebron's stats from this playoff series in the playoffs - go ahead. And by stats I don't mean pts scored as the only metric. Lebron has more assists, rebounds, plays incredible defense and Melo has baby fat and a piss poor shooting efficiency. If you want to be "objective" about Lin, then take the same approach with Melo.

Bron is the best player on the planet, no one is playing on his level...For me, I'll take Melo over Wade, and that's not a joke...When healthy, Bosh is not better than Amare...The problem with Amare is he needs a PG that is looking to get him involved...I'll take Melo with the ball in his hands with two minutes left over any player the Heat has, but that's me...You are trying to equate a guy who is essentially rookie to proven all stars...

Mario Chalmers is proven all star? OK, if you say so.

The game isn't played in the last two minutes you need to get through the first 46 without being down 25 if you want the last two minutes to count. Amare's chances of getting healthy are diminishing with each year. And Melo doesn't play Wade's position. As constructed we can't beat heHeat because to do that Melo has to outplay Lebron (ain't happening), JR has to outplay Wade (LOL) and Amare has to outplay Bosh (this is still within the realm of possibility). And yes I think Lin can definitely hold is own against Chalmers once he gets some experience and develops an understanding with his teammates.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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6/23/2012  10:21 PM
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NBA Star Jason Kidd Buys Hamptons Home in JLo's Neighborhood
Condo.com > Resources > News > NBA Star Jason Kidd Buys Hamptons Home in JLo's Neighborhood
By Joe Gonzales
Wednesday January 04th, 10:00 AM

Jason Kidd, a star player with the Dallas Mavericks in the National Basketball Association, has purchased a newly constructed home on two acres in the trendy Long Island, New York, community of South Hampton. He paid $5.595 million for the luxury residence located in the Water Mill neighborhood, where actress and singer Jennifer Lopez bought a mansion not long ago for $18 million.

Kidd’s six-bedroom, six-bath home is a custom-built residence with 5,500 square feet of living area above ground. On the lower level is another 2,300 square feet of living space and includes a staff’s suite and recreational areas. Outside recreational features include an all-weather tennis court and heated pool with cabana and fireplace. The home is located at 100 Flying Point Road.

Kidd, 38, has been playing in the NBA for 17 years and has one year left on his contract with the Mavericks. His Dallas condo is listed for sale.

Welcome Jason Kidd. I hated your guts as a Net but thankful you now chose to sign with my team. I forgive you now. You are no longer my most hated nba player along with Lebron congratulations! However I won't be buying your jersey anytime soon

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6/23/2012  10:24 PM
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gunsnewing wrote:Also callmened kidd is not getting a starting job at 40 and already said he wants to backup lin or dwill at this stage in his career. Could he be trying to drive up the price buy using the knicks as countless other free agents have done? Maybe but he is a realistic option. And felton being young is going to be looking for a longterm contract and a starting job maybe the lakers being that the often heralded ramon sessions proved to be a bust who cant shoot that many had him red flagged with

The Knicks real woes are at SG. Lin is basically a given for 30-35 minutes if we keep the Bird rights. Who is the starting SG and swing man off the bench.Landry Fields? I cant take another year of Landry Fields. I hope they can trade him for a draft pick that better fits the team.

Marco Belinelli, Courtney Lee or Gerald Green. Let JR and his inefficient offensive game walk and go play for the Bobcats
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