cheers wrote:
do you think mda will play the new players that come in or will they collect dust like the rest.

before you reply well they have to show mda. look we need players playing more than we need mda benchmark of what is or is not enough practice to prove you ready to play. our top five are wearing thin, and it shows.

sorry this mda won't play these guys who we need story is becoming amusing.

mda played randolph, mozgov (he was the starter!) and walker...

WHO ALL PROCEEDED TO PLAY THEIR WAY OUT OF THE ROTATION!

again, so you are okay with playing guys who can't hack it for us some minutes?

did you not see how badly all 3 played before being removed from the rotation?

i believe if we get better replacements that they will get time, and we will see other guys shift down the bench, or off the team.

PresIke wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:
You can't expect guys to be effective without consistent minutes. There are productive players on the bench but they haven't been given a chance in awhile. D'Antoni needs to spread out the minutes more. At some point the starters are going to wear down. The second night of a back to back where the team travels is a great example of when that is going to happen. Playing against a great defensive team where every possession is a physical struggle is another example. Guys get worn down. If you are a coach you need to develop and use your bench. If it means moving Chandler or Gallo to the bench and starting someone else to make the bench stronger do it.

right, so then you are okay with losing games while they develop?

see, that's one of THE MAJOR REASON'S (i believe) that we have a short rotation.

the knicks NEED to win games more than most teams with the playoff level talent we have as a low level to borderline playoff team (that's the level of talent here, imho).

we can't afford to have our bench make bonehead plays.

we play douglas minutes because he does give you defense, and we have no one else to back up felton.

we play turiaf because of the same reasons with amar'e nor any other legit big.

gallo and chandler are borderline starters, but we have no one else to replace them (chandler has played better of late, mostly).

i wish we had a healthy azu.

cheers wrote:

PresIke wrote:

cheers wrote:
do you think mda will play the new players that come in or will they collect dust like the rest.

before you reply well they have to show mda. look we need players playing more than we need mda benchmark of what is or is not enough practice to prove you ready to play. our top five are wearing thin, and it shows.

sorry this mda won't play these guys who we need story is becoming amusing.

mda played randolph, mozgov (he was the starter!) and walker...

WHO ALL PROCEEDED TO PLAY THEIR WAY OUT OF THE ROTATION!

again, so you are okay with playing guys who can't hack it for us some minutes?

did you not see how badly all 3 played before being removed from the rotation?

i believe if we get better replacements that they will get time, and we will see other guys shift down the bench, or off the team.

and if those better replacements mda finds fault in them as well, then what

does it take a players meeting (ala miami heat) for mda to get the message, keep your top five fresh.

rp wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

cheers wrote:

PresIke wrote:

cheers wrote:
do you think mda will play the new players that come in or will they collect dust like the rest.

before you reply well they have to show mda. look we need players playing more than we need mda benchmark of what is or is not enough practice to prove you ready to play. our top five are wearing thin, and it shows.

sorry this mda won't play these guys who we need story is becoming amusing.

mda played randolph, mozgov (he was the starter!) and walker...

WHO ALL PROCEEDED TO PLAY THEIR WAY OUT OF THE ROTATION!

again, so you are okay with playing guys who can't hack it for us some minutes?

did you not see how badly all 3 played before being removed from the rotation?

i believe if we get better replacements that they will get time, and we will see other guys shift down the bench, or off the team.

and if those better replacements mda finds fault in them as well, then what

does it take a players meeting (ala miami heat) for mda to get the message, keep your top five fresh.

He didn't get the message last year until the GM traveled with the team. Hopefully it doesn't come to that this year. But all of the bad guys or so called low iq guys are contributing and having good years with other teams except Larry Hughes.

duhon is not low iq he went to duke :). Jeffries is not low IQ, so who you referring to?

PresIke wrote:

Papabear wrote:

PresIke wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:AR and Moz couldn't get any PT even when the Cavs had mostly bench players on the floor. I see trades on the horizon because its going to reach a breaking point. Either Walsh makes a deal or D'Antoni gives more time to AR and Moz. They can't have this tight a rotation for much longer and expect to be healthy in the playoffs, if they make the playoffs.

sorry, those guys do not merit playing in a big game, right now.

Papabear Says

Wow hey lets just burn out Amear and Felton like we did our other point guard last year. Make it a tight 5 man rotation.

well then you're okay with losing games, because that's what going to happen a lot more if we rely on the rest of our bench.

i agree, down the road and in back to backs it will be a problem.

i think we are going to make at least one deal (maybe 2) before the deadline.

we cannot go on relying on things for the reasons you stated.

The bench is decent enough to give our starters a quick rest. It just needs a decent backup PG because Douglas stalls the offense.

Playing our starters heavy minutes is not the answer.

DrAlphaeus wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

LOL! Can Sad Keanu be the official mascot of every Knicks L this year?

Done.

I like chandler, I feel he will be a good player as well..

I didn't watch the game, I taped it, was out drinking with friends..

I saw chandler didn't do much and gallo shot 1-10 from three..

losing to cleveland is inexcuseable..

time to get melo at all cost.. End of story.. I am on board..

tkf wrote:I love gallo, a huge fan of his and I know he will be a fantastic playe one day..

I like chandler, I feel he will be a good player as well..

I didn't watch the game, I taped it, was out drinking with friends..

I saw chandler didn't do much and gallo shot 1-10 from three..

losing to cleveland is inexcuseable..

time to get melo at all cost.. End of story.. I am on board..

that is as real as it gets.

knicks1248 wrote:Problem Is we don't know what we have on the bench. After mda admitted to holding back on williams for whatever silly reason he had , tells me he's 2nd guessing his moves...its also up to amare and felt to let him know when the need a breather.....

PresIke wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:AR and Moz couldn't get any PT even when the Cavs had mostly bench players on the floor. I see trades on the horizon because its going to reach a breaking point. Either Walsh makes a deal or D'Antoni gives more time to AR and Moz. They can't have this tight a rotation for much longer and expect to be healthy in the playoffs, if they make the playoffs.

sorry, those guys do not merit playing in a big game, right now.

One of the worst teams in the league on a ten game losing streak is a big game? The starters were too spent to beat them, its almost 2 months to the all star break, when is it a good time to play them?