Bippity10 wrote:

fishmike wrote:TMS.. no beef at all. Never had one. Go back and read thread after thread. You get really hung up on being right or things that have been said in the past, you make snitty little comments like get a grip and try to follow along. It doesnt bother me, I think its kind of funny, but when I return serve you get all hot and bothered and take it personally.

My arguements are flimsy? Ive given facts to back up why I think the way I do on this. Dont call me a pissy little douche because I'm neither and you wouldnt do that if we were face to face.

fishmike wants to ride both sides of the fence on this one so if the Knicks somehow do acquire Melo he can come back & tell us all how it was a no brainer move to make, & if Melo doesn't get the Nuggets deep into the playoffs this year he can continue to preach to us all how overrated Melo is... always great to cover one's bases in case you're ever proven wrong, eh?

this is all you. Not me. What you wrote here has NOTHING to do with Melo and the Knicks. This is TMS making sure everyone knows something so you can point it out later. Who cares???? Seems like you do! Again... all about TMS being right.

Nobody cares (Maybe Bip does). VMart hasnt reacted the way you have...

Obviously I get under your skin. Sorry dude, its not personal. Try putting me on ignore if it upsets you. Whats obvious (to me) is something I said or did at some point has rubbed you the wrong way and you cant let go. Maybe I am wrong, but... Again.. nobody really cares. I'll take that plate of beans any day right after Panos beats me in a rematch.

Wooooooooh, A shot at Bip out of no where. This is an outrage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the record, I have been right about everything!

Besides when you're argueing against me obviously and I for a fact know I am right 100% of the time. It's history and science all in one. In fact, I would like Fishmike to buy one of those tshirts that says "The Great Allanfan20 is always right, no matter what."

Does anyone have any questions concerning this?

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:If you're gonna get a fishtank don't go for lame goldfish. Get some Cichlids. African freshwater fish that have teeth and eat smaller fish and brine shrimp. Man get some big ole Oscars, Jack Dempsey, Convicts or Jewel fish. That tank will have some nice battles every so often and this way the one you can report who wins of the ones you name TMS or Fishmike.

get a snake head & he'll eat every one of those fish... u can name him Eddy.

Those are illegal and should be. People dump those fish back into the wild and it destroys the ecosystem, exactly like the Burmese python problem in Florida thing that I posted, awhile back ago.

TMS wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:If you're gonna get a fishtank don't go for lame goldfish. Get some Cichlids. African freshwater fish that have teeth and eat smaller fish and brine shrimp. Man get some big ole Oscars, Jack Dempsey, Convicts or Jewel fish. That tank will have some nice battles every so often and this way the one you can report who wins of the ones you name TMS or Fishmike.

get a snake head & he'll eat every one of those fish... u can name him Eddy.

Those are illegal and should be. People dump those fish back into the wild and it destroys the ecosystem, exactly like the Burmese python problem in Florida thing that I posted, awhile back ago.

are they? i used to have one back in a day... damn thing grew to 12 inches long & ate up a buncha my other fish so i had to return that sucka back to the pet store i got it from.

see? i know how to relax... i used to have 2 fishtanks at home.

I know they are definitely illegal in NY, or at least Long Island. My friend had one too, but that's why they are illegal, b/c people release them in the wild.

Allanfan20 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:If you're gonna get a fishtank don't go for lame goldfish. Get some Cichlids. African freshwater fish that have teeth and eat smaller fish and brine shrimp. Man get some big ole Oscars, Jack Dempsey, Convicts or Jewel fish. That tank will have some nice battles every so often and this way the one you can report who wins of the ones you name TMS or Fishmike.

get a snake head & he'll eat every one of those fish... u can name him Eddy.

Those are illegal and should be. People dump those fish back into the wild and it destroys the ecosystem, exactly like the Burmese python problem in Florida thing that I posted, awhile back ago.

are they? i used to have one back in a day... damn thing grew to 12 inches long & ate up a buncha my other fish so i had to return that sucka back to the pet store i got it from.

see? i know how to relax... i used to have 2 fishtanks at home.

I know they are definitely illegal in NY, or at least Long Island. My friend had one too, but that's why they are illegal, b/c people release them in the wild.

i shoulda just cooked that sucka up & ate it... i hear the meat is tasty.

the Knicks need a lead guard for the second shift more than anything

Bippity10 wrote:

fishmike wrote:TMS.. no beef at all. Never had one. Go back and read thread after thread. You get really hung up on being right or things that have been said in the past, you make snitty little comments like get a grip and try to follow along. It doesnt bother me, I think its kind of funny, but when I return serve you get all hot and bothered and take it personally.

My arguements are flimsy? Ive given facts to back up why I think the way I do on this. Dont call me a pissy little douche because I'm neither and you wouldnt do that if we were face to face.

fishmike wants to ride both sides of the fence on this one so if the Knicks somehow do acquire Melo he can come back & tell us all how it was a no brainer move to make, & if Melo doesn't get the Nuggets deep into the playoffs this year he can continue to preach to us all how overrated Melo is... always great to cover one's bases in case you're ever proven wrong, eh?

this is all you. Not me. What you wrote here has NOTHING to do with Melo and the Knicks. This is TMS making sure everyone knows something so you can point it out later. Who cares???? Seems like you do! Again... all about TMS being right.

Nobody cares (Maybe Bip does). VMart hasnt reacted the way you have...

Obviously I get under your skin. Sorry dude, its not personal. Try putting me on ignore if it upsets you. Whats obvious (to me) is something I said or did at some point has rubbed you the wrong way and you cant let go. Maybe I am wrong, but... Again.. nobody really cares. I'll take that plate of beans any day right after Panos beats me in a rematch.

Wooooooooh, A shot at Bip out of no where. This is an outrage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the record, I have been right about everything!

Bip and outrage in the same sentence is redundant.

Bippity10 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

fishmike wrote:TMS.. no beef at all. Never had one. Go back and read thread after thread. You get really hung up on being right or things that have been said in the past, you make snitty little comments like get a grip and try to follow along. It doesnt bother me, I think its kind of funny, but when I return serve you get all hot and bothered and take it personally.

My arguements are flimsy? Ive given facts to back up why I think the way I do on this. Dont call me a pissy little douche because I'm neither and you wouldnt do that if we were face to face.

fishmike wants to ride both sides of the fence on this one so if the Knicks somehow do acquire Melo he can come back & tell us all how it was a no brainer move to make, & if Melo doesn't get the Nuggets deep into the playoffs this year he can continue to preach to us all how overrated Melo is... always great to cover one's bases in case you're ever proven wrong, eh?

this is all you. Not me. What you wrote here has NOTHING to do with Melo and the Knicks. This is TMS making sure everyone knows something so you can point it out later. Who cares???? Seems like you do! Again... all about TMS being right.

Nobody cares (Maybe Bip does). VMart hasnt reacted the way you have...

Obviously I get under your skin. Sorry dude, its not personal. Try putting me on ignore if it upsets you. Whats obvious (to me) is something I said or did at some point has rubbed you the wrong way and you cant let go. Maybe I am wrong, but... Again.. nobody really cares. I'll take that plate of beans any day right after Panos beats me in a rematch.

Wooooooooh, A shot at Bip out of no where. This is an outrage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the record, I have been right about everything!

Bip and outrage in the same sentence is redundant.

Send closk

Ties shoes

Bippity10 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

fishmike wrote:TMS.. no beef at all. Never had one. Go back and read thread after thread. You get really hung up on being right or things that have been said in the past, you make snitty little comments like get a grip and try to follow along. It doesnt bother me, I think its kind of funny, but when I return serve you get all hot and bothered and take it personally.

My arguements are flimsy? Ive given facts to back up why I think the way I do on this. Dont call me a pissy little douche because I'm neither and you wouldnt do that if we were face to face.

fishmike wants to ride both sides of the fence on this one so if the Knicks somehow do acquire Melo he can come back & tell us all how it was a no brainer move to make, & if Melo doesn't get the Nuggets deep into the playoffs this year he can continue to preach to us all how overrated Melo is... always great to cover one's bases in case you're ever proven wrong, eh?

this is all you. Not me. What you wrote here has NOTHING to do with Melo and the Knicks. This is TMS making sure everyone knows something so you can point it out later. Who cares???? Seems like you do! Again... all about TMS being right.

Nobody cares (Maybe Bip does). VMart hasnt reacted the way you have...

Obviously I get under your skin. Sorry dude, its not personal. Try putting me on ignore if it upsets you. Whats obvious (to me) is something I said or did at some point has rubbed you the wrong way and you cant let go. Maybe I am wrong, but... Again.. nobody really cares. I'll take that plate of beans any day right after Panos beats me in a rematch.

Wooooooooh, A shot at Bip out of no where. This is an outrage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the record, I have been right about everything!

Bip and outrage in the same sentence is redundant.

Send closk

Ties shoes

kicks in face

that's my ankle, stupid intern boy

If you were to carefully examine the playoff series of the past decade, you'd come to realize that the team that wields 2 of the top 3 best performers in the series, generally wins. Since the championship is the mark of the most successful team in the playoffs, I'll only review players from the two teams in Finals to prove my point:

2010: Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Rajon Rondo; Lakers WIN
2009: Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard; Lakers WIN
2008: Kobe Bryant, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett; Celtics WIN
2007: LeBron James, Tony Parker, Tim Duncan; Spurs WIN
2006: Dwayne Wade, Dirk Nowitzki, Shaquille O'neal; Heat WIN
2005: Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Chauncey Billups; Spurs WIN
2004: Chauncey Billups, Kobe Bryant, Ben Wallace; Pistons WIN
2003: Tim Duncan, Jason Kidd, Stephen Jackson/David Robinson; Spurs WIN
2002: Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'neal, Jason Kidd; Lakers WIN
2001: Shaquille O'neal, Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant; Lakers WIN
2000: Shaquille O'neal, Kobe Bryant, Reggie Miller; Lakers WIN

....With Carmelo Anthony (and Amar'e), we'd have a shot of fulfilling the 2/3 rule in most playoff series. Moreover, Melo would give us our only player capable of scoring at will during scoring droughts, as well as clutch play in the 4th; a necessity for elite teams( see Kobe Bryant with the Lakers and Paul Pierce with the Celtics). Needless to say, we need this dude and fortunately, won't have to sell the farm to get him....

As much as Melo is regarded as a top 5 talent, we have the opportunity to get him for cents on the dollar. Why? Because it is quite evident that he no longer wants to be a Denver Nugget and intends on signing with the Knicks. This in turn makes other teams reluctant to pony up assets to acquire him and allows the Knicks to low-ball the Nuggets. Time is in the Knicks' favor at this point and once we approach the deadline and after the Nuggets have exhausted a options, I expect to see both teams consummate a deal that will allow the Nuggets to get some value in the trade. There is no way that they allow themselves to get burned like the Cavs and Raptors did this offseason, especially with Masai Ujiri having been apart of the Raptors organization when Bosh left.

A deal moving Anthony Randolph to the Pacers for an unprotected 1st round pick in 2011; in addition to that pick, Eddy Curry (the Knicks already paid $5.1 million of his $11.2 million contract), Danilo Gallinari and $3 million should be more than enough. We may even get lucky and parlay Curry's expirer for Andre Igoudala or Tayshaun Prince (since both are available) and Gallo for Melo at an earlier date than the deadline. In short, the ball is ultimately in our court and we should definitely take advantage of it.

Melo2NYK wrote:I'm very late to this discussion but you all are sadly mistaken if you believe that we "don't need...carmelo." For all his shortcomings as a human being, the guy is one of the premier ball players in the league. We should thank our stars that he is actually interested in our team because his addition would propel us into the upper-echelon of the Eastern Conference. I'm not talking about being 5th but being elite; an equal to the Magic's and Heat's of the world, with the ability to give the Celtics/Lakers a run for their money. Here's why...

If you were to carefully examine the playoff series of the past decade, you'd come to realize that the team that wields 2 of the top 3 best performers in the series, generally wins. Since the championship is the mark of the most successful team in the playoffs, I'll only review players from the two teams in Finals to prove my point:

2010: Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Rajon Rondo; Lakers WIN
2009: Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard; Lakers WIN
2008: Kobe Bryant, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett; Celtics WIN
2007: LeBron James, Tony Parker, Tim Duncan; Spurs WIN
2006: Dwayne Wade, Dirk Nowitzki, Shaquille O'neal; Heat WIN
2005: Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Chauncey Billups; Spurs WIN
2004: Chauncey Billups, Kobe Bryant, Ben Wallace; Pistons WIN
2003: Tim Duncan, Jason Kidd, Stephen Jackson/David Robinson; Spurs WIN
2002: Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'neal, Jason Kidd; Lakers WIN
2001: Shaquille O'neal, Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant; Lakers WIN
2000: Shaquille O'neal, Kobe Bryant, Reggie Miller; Lakers WIN

....With Carmelo Anthony (and Amar'e), we'd have a shot of fulfilling the 2/3 rule in most playoff series. Moreover, Melo would give us our only player capable of scoring at will during scoring droughts, as well as clutch play in the 4th; a necessity for elite teams( see Kobe Bryant with the Lakers and Paul Pierce with the Celtics). Needless to say, we need this dude and fortunately, won't have to sell the farm to get him....

As much as Melo is regarded as a top 5 talent, we have the opportunity to get him for cents on the dollar. Why? Because it is quite evident that he no longer wants to be a Denver Nugget and intends on signing with the Knicks. This in turn makes other teams reluctant to pony up assets to acquire him and allows the Knicks to low-ball the Nuggets. Time is in the Knicks' favor at this point and once we approach the deadline and after the Nuggets have exhausted a options, I expect to see both teams consummate a deal that will allow the Nuggets to get some value in the trade. There is no way that they allow themselves to get burned like the Cavs and Raptors did this offseason, especially with Masai Ujiri having been apart of the Raptors organization when Bosh left.

A deal moving Anthony Randolph to the Pacers for an unprotected 1st round pick in 2011; in addition to that pick, Eddy Curry (the Knicks already paid $5.1 million of his $11.2 million contract), Danilo Gallinari and $3 million should be more than enough. We may even get lucky and parlay Curry's expirer for Andre Igoudala or Tayshaun Prince (since both are available) and Gallo for Melo at an earlier date than the deadline. In short, the ball is ultimately in our court and we should definitely take advantage of it.

That being said your point above is a bit moot... Melo isnt as good as Kobe, Gasol, Wade, Dwight, KG, Duncan oe Shaq. He's just not that. I do agree that he brings tough scoring and when all else fails Melo on an iso is a good play.

If we could do that deal and we are looking at:
PG Felton
SG Fields
SF Melo
PF Amare
C Turiaf/Mosgov
with Chandler, Willams, Douglas off the bench going with those 9 you gotta feel pretty damn good. I'll bite.

I just dont buy for a minute we can get Melo for Gallo + Curry.

Also Denver would have to pay the Knicks for Curry's salary that we paid. We could kick in $3mm to counteract his trade kicker but there is little financial savings there.