GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We need more big man help

Mosgov is NO starter in the nBA and I hope that they realize this or he might regress from what he had going for him. He is good off the bench for 15 minutes or so.

I see the opposite. Moz is a quick learner and got better in the Worlds and Preseason each and every game. This is a kid that just needs minutes. There is not another free agent or C that you can trade for. This is the season to play him as much as you can.

He got jobbed on 1 foul and probably 2. no worries.

He was also going up against one of the more mobile big men in the league for his first start.

Not a put down on Mosgov--just that pro players will easily put 2 fouls on him every time he starts within 3 minutes once they see tape on him. I want to put Mosgov in position to help the team--which he can do--but that position is not starting 5 man--not yet--maybe in a year or two. If Mosgov can go against 2nd line players--I see him going 8-4-2 in 18 minutes. If he goes against the top guys--hell be on his arse on the bench too much.

Yes, he hit them but he didn't play much of a team game tonight.

CrushAlot wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:I'm not sure why Chandler is getting praise. He had a nice game but I felt he forced the action on the offensive end too many times. He really killed any offensive flow every time he got the ball by going 1-on-1 each time or taking a jumper.

Yes, he hit them but he didn't play much of a team game tonight.

I thought Chandler looked great. I think his role coming off the bench is to be very aggressive.
I also like the move by D'Antoni bringing him off the bench. I thought either he or Gallo needed to be on the second unit.

I guess everyone has their own definition of great.

I thought Chandler played selfish and was lucky to be hitting some of those shots.

BRIGGS wrote:were not going to get away with a lack of size--we haev to address it quick. These teams out west are enormous---Amare is going to be tripled team every night unless we can a starting NBA caliber player at that 5 position.

was he tripled every night next to 6'7" PF shawn marion?

it's more important that gallo spreads the floor with his shooting, wilson keeps the mid-range game going and AR and Mozgov develop.

this team has a lot size. not traditional bangers, but mozgov, turiaf, amare, AR, gallo and wilson are six big and skilled guys.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:I'm not sure why Chandler is getting praise. He had a nice game but I felt he forced the action on the offensive end too many times. He really killed any offensive flow every time he got the ball by going 1-on-1 each time or taking a jumper.

Yes, he hit them but he didn't play much of a team game tonight.

I thought Chandler looked great. I think his role coming off the bench is to be very aggressive.
I also like the move by D'Antoni bringing him off the bench. I thought either he or Gallo needed to be on the second unit.

I guess everyone has their own definition of great.

I thought Chandler played selfish and was lucky to be hitting some of those shots.

Just to play devil's advocate- you can probably say the same about Amare, even though he is our designated "go to" superstar import.

If Chandler goes 5/15 with 5 turnovers the next 2 games playing the same way he did vs Toronto, and does nothing to adjust his game, then I would say your comments are warranted. On the other hand, if Chandler can play like this 80% of the time and the team benefits, what do you say then?

Paladin55 wrote:

Solace wrote:A win... nice! Not bad. Chandler was great. Fields also very impressive. Amare turned it on when it counted. Can't complain too much.

Can't live with 9 turnovers from Amare, though. On the reviewed play when the ball was knocked off his foot, Gallinari was waiting for pass about 4 ft from the basket and Amare tried to force things anyway with his head down.

Decent way to start the season, though, and a nice all around effort from everyone against a team we should beat.

And we actually out rebounded a team.

Yeah, 9 is bad. If only he had 10, he would've had a triple double, right?

Also the PG's miss Moz in the paint WAY too often. He's too freakin big not to see him with his arms up in the paint.

Chandler wasn't forcing his offense, he's got to be a bit selfish out there. He's one of our primary scoring options. If we can get Gallo to be that way too, it would really help the team a lot.

We missed a lot of 3s but I thought they were pretty good shots in the flow of the offense. Walker and Mason looked terrible. I like the Douglas/Felton backcourt. Seems like one of them is simply to fast for opposing SGs and that guy scores pretty easily.

Mosgov will be fine. I hope MDA doesnt do some panic crap and pull him for Turiaf after one game. Mosgov is really a key to our long term success here. Turiaf was great. Knicks really went after that ball on defense. 10 blocks is awesome.

Fields is like our Shane Battier. He's just a really good player. The kind of guy who looks great playing with talent

The refs need to cool it with the quick whistles on Moz. Gimmie a break with some of these calls -- he's barely even touching guys. The touch fouls are driving me crazy...Let him play his guy. Some of it's one him -- the dude's got some work to do obviously but at other times I feel like he's an advantage that the refs simply aren't letting us use. It's almost as if the refs are anticipating him committing quick fouls in the 1st period. Good refs shouldn't anticipate anything - instead let it unfold and just call it like you see it.

Turiaf deserves a ton of credit for last night's win. Dude played very well. He's really a plus shot-blocker. Box score said he got 4 last night and I tell ya he must have altered at least another 4. Even the ones he didn't get, he was all over any Raptor that took the ball to the basket or looked to score in close..Like Amar'e he doesn't seem to be a great rebounder given his size and athleticism but the effort's definitely there...Decent offensive player too when given a chance. He's got decent touch (people don't realize this but he actually can shoot a little w/o embarrassing himself) and he can also score it on the pick and roll and finish with authority. I think he's gotta touch it more on offense and be allowed to take the shot if it's there. Very decent backup big man that doesn't get enough credit by some on this board. Having said that, I still would've looked to add another rebounder at the end of the bench in the event that any combination of Amar'e, Moz, AR, Gallo, Turiaf aren't getting it done. It definitely looks to be a weakness with most of our bigs and I'd like Mike to have an alternative specialist-type to go to in a pich to correct the problem. Last night we did fine but it's obvious on some nights we're gonna struggle on the glass. I would hate for that to cost us some games.

Gallinari continues to disappoint -- he hit the defensive glass a little late in the game which was good but otherwise he was invisible. Dude just plays so goddamn soft for a guy that big. Same old problem with the shot-selection last night that we've been seeing -- camped out deep on the perimieter launching up 3 balls. Dude offers little else. My God -- will that ever change?????????????

Papabear wrote:

Gallinari continues to disappoint -- he hit the defensive glass a little late in the game which was good but otherwise he was invisible. Dude just plays so goddamn soft for a guy that big. Same old problem with the shot-selection last night that we've been seeing -- camped out deep on the perimieter launching up 3 balls. Dude offers little else. My God -- will that ever change?????????????

Papabear Says

Mayby thats what D"Antoni wants him to do.

I don't believe that at all -- D'Antoni talks often about Gallo taking the next step as a player. He's not gonna go out of his way to limit or restrict one of his players esp. a guy he and the rest of the organization are looking at to become an all-star level player for this club. This kid just doesn't seem to be comfortable doing anything else besides shooting perimieter shots. Funny thing is he talked extensively about working to improve "his explosiveness and his post up game" in Italy during the offseason. I don't think that's a lie -- I believe him. I just can't comprehend why he's shying away from implementing the things he worked on. If I spent hours upon hours working on specific things during my offseason I'd be chomping at the bit to show my improvement to everybody, esp. the doubters.