Uptown wrote:

TMS wrote:what i wanna know is what the hell is Eddie House doing playing 30+ minutes & taking 16 shots??? MDA seriously has a boner for "his guys" & it makes me sick at this point... when u have Wilson & Gallo taking only 14 shots between the 2 of them & a role player off the bench like House taking 16, u know there's something seriously wrong.

Minutes aside, is it really MDA's fault that House put up 16 shots and Chandler and Gallo played hot potato with the ball out front? How many times did the 6'10 Gallo, long-stride in the lane, leap then kick it back out like he was a point guard? House has no concious because he's a shooter. Gallo is supposed to be our best shooter, yet he's reluctant to shoot.

i will give u that on Gallo, but before this trade was made i thought Wilson was taking strides in being aggressive looking for his shot... the past 2 games he's disappeared... sure u can put this on the players & say they need to be more aggressive but the coach can also design plays to feature these guys more rather than just having a system where guys are free to launch up shots at will as soon as they get the ball... i don't want Eddie House to be chucking up shots this way, otherwise we mine as well have kept Nate if that's what we were looking for.

DrAlphaeus wrote:With the trade deadline in the rearview (thank the Lord) and July a few miles out of sight, I'm just interested in watching this group of players and seeing what can do with them. Why even think about the L word at this point? I'm not ready to say Sergio is "not the player we need" after only 2 games.

i'm not either... i'm just posing these questions to everyone who said Sergio "IS the player we need" after just 1 game... clearly he still has some things to prove before we can say he's an improvement over anything we had before... like how about helping this team win a game... just 1 game, before we jump to these conclusions? there's a thought.

BasketballJones wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:wow, this offense sure is flowing a lot better with Sergio at the helm.

Ha Ha, I could see a game like this coming after all the positive comments about TMac, Sergio & House. Haven't you seen this before after a big opening performance and excitement a big letdown game follows?

We'll see how things workout, but i'm just glad that we let Sergio play, cuz at this point we need to see these guys and how they may fit into our future. I still like the kid and it seems the whole team had nothing tonight. That's gonna happen, bad shooting and lack of effort. Like I said it takes two to get an assist. Guys have to make shots. Like the steals tho.

Papabear Says

Nixluva Please Please!!! This was a lousy game and our defense sunk to a real low. Sergio is ok but sofar not the player we need. You talk future?? Who in the hell is gonna come here?? If Lebron is watching this stuff he ain't comin here. We stink up the place. McGrady may not last the season. He may not last 10 games. We got no future right now. Wrong coach, Wrong players, Wrong everything. Gallo and Chandler look confused.

You think it's not confusing when you trade out guys, switch in new ones and all late in the season? RELAX... this is not what the future team is gonna look like and for right now we will be in full scouting mode. Getting a look at the new guys added and the young guys to see how they continue to develop. I know it's frustrating, but that's how it is when you gut your team and are looking to start over. It's never pretty.

Your optimism is boundless.

nixluva makes this guy feel like he's a failure

WindsorPl wrote:what happened to the Jennings bandwagon?

Certain posters are very selective when deciding what players to "attack."

FG % by month:

Oct: .516

Nov: .420

Dec: .376

Jan: .324

Feb: .298

TMS wrote:

Uptown wrote:

TMS wrote:what i wanna know is what the hell is Eddie House doing playing 30+ minutes & taking 16 shots??? MDA seriously has a boner for "his guys" & it makes me sick at this point... when u have Wilson & Gallo taking only 14 shots between the 2 of them & a role player off the bench like House taking 16, u know there's something seriously wrong.

Minutes aside, is it really MDA's fault that House put up 16 shots and Chandler and Gallo played hot potato with the ball out front? How many times did the 6'10 Gallo, long-stride in the lane, leap then kick it back out like he was a point guard? House has no concious because he's a shooter. Gallo is supposed to be our best shooter, yet he's reluctant to shoot.

i will give u that on Gallo, but before this trade was made i thought Wilson was taking strides in being aggressive looking for his shot... the past 2 games he's disappeared... sure u can put this on the players & say they need to be more aggressive but the coach can also design plays to feature these guys more rather than just having a system where guys are free to launch up shots at will as soon as they get the ball... i don't want Eddie House to be chucking up shots this way, otherwise we mine as well have kept Nate if that's what we were looking for.

I dont disagree but give it more than 2 games to see if McGradys presence is really impacting Chandlers play. Chandler has a history of drifting in games and has gone several games at time when he is relatively quiet. He had a decent game on Saturday (although he missed a gimme down the stretch). But either way, if we get our wish and Wade or Lebron come to town, it'll be much of the same thing with Chandler. Although, Lebron and Wade are better passers, and I think Chandlers role should be that of a finisher and getting out in the open court. Chandler can have a Shaun Marion type of role n this offense. I cringe at times when I see him trying to create his on offense up top.

Paladin55 wrote:

WindsorPl wrote:what happened to the Jennings bandwagon?

Certain posters are very selective when deciding what players to "attack."

FG % by month:

Oct: .516

Nov: .420

Dec: .376

Jan: .324

Feb: .298

I know they do, but sometimes it's just funny. We will know about all these guys in a couple of years, not now. But it makes people feel better to prove they were right at the draft.

Pharzeone wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

tkf wrote:LOL I knew brigs would bust an artery tonight.. LOL.. briggs... lopez is on the worst team possibly in the history of the NBA.. knicks did the right thing.. And briggs, you wanted anthony randolph as well... how is he working out? again, why is everything so dramatic with you man?

this is what happens when you starphuch.. I like T-mac, but the T-mac chants the other night were ridiculous, he is not a savior. I wanted the knicks to dump Al, jeffries, lee, everyone, let gallo, hill, douglas and chandler be the focal point of the last 30 games.. look at what is happening in washington.. we will never learn..

i agree with you tkf.. i advocated getting tmac for the cap space and i was just as pumped as the garden on saturday watching him play but gallinari and chandler should be the focal point of this team right now and they aren't getting any shots. i'm not sure what walsh's plan was in trading for tmac. was it just for cap purposes or does he actually want him taking 15-20 shots a game right now.

it would be so important to see gallo and chandler get 15 shots each a game for the last 30 so they both gain some confidence and hopefully blossom.. i'm not sure i like where this is going the rest of the season.

But nyk, you knew this was going to happen when you bring a guy like T-Mac and House into this system. T-Mac said on Saturday that MDA told the new guys to only worry about playing their style. So if you don't provide structure what do you expect from your players. If I'm Chandler and Gallo, I can understand just saying here you go be you because he ain't trying to win anymore. Even Lee has taken a step back. Sergio dribbling and passing but at many times without any purpose.

phar i understand and i think walsh has put the coach in a difficult position. the guy hates losing and then walsh brings in a superstar (or used to be) and says to him have at it and show us you can still play. i cant blame d'antoni for wanting to win games but i do blame him for doing a poor job in not getting gallo and chandler enough shots.

nyk4ever wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

tkf wrote:LOL I knew brigs would bust an artery tonight.. LOL.. briggs... lopez is on the worst team possibly in the history of the NBA.. knicks did the right thing.. And briggs, you wanted anthony randolph as well... how is he working out? again, why is everything so dramatic with you man?

this is what happens when you starphuch.. I like T-mac, but the T-mac chants the other night were ridiculous, he is not a savior. I wanted the knicks to dump Al, jeffries, lee, everyone, let gallo, hill, douglas and chandler be the focal point of the last 30 games.. look at what is happening in washington.. we will never learn..

i agree with you tkf.. i advocated getting tmac for the cap space and i was just as pumped as the garden on saturday watching him play but gallinari and chandler should be the focal point of this team right now and they aren't getting any shots. i'm not sure what walsh's plan was in trading for tmac. was it just for cap purposes or does he actually want him taking 15-20 shots a game right now.

it would be so important to see gallo and chandler get 15 shots each a game for the last 30 so they both gain some confidence and hopefully blossom.. i'm not sure i like where this is going the rest of the season.

But nyk, you knew this was going to happen when you bring a guy like T-Mac and House into this system. T-Mac said on Saturday that MDA told the new guys to only worry about playing their style. So if you don't provide structure what do you expect from your players. If I'm Chandler and Gallo, I can understand just saying here you go be you because he ain't trying to win anymore. Even Lee has taken a step back. Sergio dribbling and passing but at many times without any purpose.

phar i understand and i think walsh has put the coach in a difficult position. the guy hates losing and then walsh brings in a superstar (or used to be) and says to him have at it and show us you can still play. i cant blame d'antoni for wanting to win games but i do blame him for doing a poor job in not getting gallo and chandler enough shots.

But this is nothing new. I been complaining about this for awhile being called a hatter. I finally put my finger on MDA as to what I consider him in his profession in this thread. These complaints about his structure aren't new either. Guys in Phoenix saying how they enjoy his short practices. Him doing away with away shoot arounds this season. I mean the is so evidence is so overwhelming about his input into the game. Leaving it up to players to determine whether to foul or not, not calling out set plays and so on. Getting Lebron or Wade won't help you figure out how to evaluate MDA. All it will do is cover up his issues. This is the type of roster and times that you evaluate whether you have a competent guy or a slacker.

nyk4ever wrote:

tkf wrote:LOL I knew brigs would bust an artery tonight.. LOL.. briggs... lopez is on the worst team possibly in the history of the NBA.. knicks did the right thing.. And briggs, you wanted anthony randolph as well... how is he working out? again, why is everything so dramatic with you man?

this is what happens when you starphuch.. I like T-mac, but the T-mac chants the other night were ridiculous, he is not a savior. I wanted the knicks to dump Al, jeffries, lee, everyone, let gallo, hill, douglas and chandler be the focal point of the last 30 games.. look at what is happening in washington.. we will never learn..

i agree with you tkf.. i advocated getting tmac for the cap space and i was just as pumped as the garden on saturday watching him play but gallinari and chandler should be the focal point of this team right now and they aren't getting any shots. i'm not sure what walsh's plan was in trading for tmac. was it just for cap purposes or does he actually want him taking 15-20 shots a game right now.

it would be so important to see gallo and chandler get 15 shots each a game for the last 30 so they both gain some confidence and hopefully blossom.. i'm not sure i like where this is going the rest of the season.

I just have the feeling that when gallo is not a big part of the offense, he will just defer, and I am not sure if I should worry about this, because if we get a lebronjames, how will this affect gallo. Now I will say this. Put him as a legit second option and you will see a lot of good results, but right now, being behind lee, and now T-mac and house in this offense, along with Al chucking off the bench, we are going to see more games like this, and it is sad, because now chandler is being affected and that is not what we should be seeing now..