"We lost this game for one reason--we didnt take good shots--we didnt have a need to take 28 3's and we won't be a good consistent team unless we realize w need to take better more efficient shots"

Papabear - "Who ever (Nate) is assigned to" is a woefully unsatisfactory answer about matching up on defense for being a student of basketball as you claim. Nate may average 17 but one must also consider how many points he would allow his Miami counterpart, who ever he is assigned to, and how that matchup affects the overall fabric of the Knicks defensive alignment.

As Doris said it's about a level of professionalism with Nate, not his skill set.

But its the holidays so I'll let it go at that

"I'm startin to think we just need one Max Star and a pretty good PG to get to the next level."

nix - The best part is the Knicks may not need a max star.

Just an unselfish star who can put the ball on the floor with speed, post up, see the floor and finish above the rim when he has the opportunity

is that asking too much?

tkf wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We lost this game for one reason--we didnt take good shots--we didnt have a need to take 28 3's and we won't be a good consistent team unless we realize w need to take better more efficient shots.

We are playing very good defensive basketball--we just need to hit good shots to win--giving the other team so many opportunities with missed shots isn't the way you win games.

Agreed Briggs. I don't have a problem with Gallo taking his 3's (he did take 11 of them but also went to the line 7 times) - he's going to make a high % of them, but I do have a problem with Harrington taking 7 of them. Harrington shot horribly from the floor today and should've been more focused on taking the ball to the hoop instead of still chucking up those 3's that he was taking.

Harrington absolutely killed us today with his 5-20.

yea, gallo didn't shoot well from three, but when he started hitting them, we go away from him.. he did shoot 44% overall, so he was money from inside the arc also and really took the ball to the hoop well... chandler shot 6-11 and didn't get enough shots.. honestly, I would have fetured gallo and chandler.. Al didn't have it, yet he took 20 shots.. LOL.. come on..

I noticed on more than one occassion gallo had an open shot and he consistently passed off to Harrington and he was cold 5-20. Nobody mentioned that here, but the announcers did.

nyk4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We lost this game for one reason--we didnt take good shots--we didnt have a need to take 28 3's and we won't be a good consistent team unless we realize w need to take better more efficient shots.

We are playing very good defensive basketball--we just need to hit good shots to win--giving the other team so many opportunities with missed shots isn't the way you win games.

Agreed Briggs. I don't have a problem with Gallo taking his 3's (he did take 11 of them but also went to the line 7 times) - he's going to make a high % of them, but I do have a problem with Harrington taking 7 of them. Harrington shot horribly from the floor today and should've been more focused on taking the ball to the hoop instead of still chucking up those 3's that he was taking.

Harrington absolutely killed us today with his 5-20.

Yeah we definitely took some bad shots, but we missed quite a few open looks as well. Gallo, unsual for him, missed at least 3-4 wide open looks. But we defitniely rely on the three too much. Nothing wrong with taking an 18 footer.

martin wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:Now do you guys understand why Al Harrington is NOT a keeper? Thank you.

I dont really like Harrington. Ball stopper on offense. Not much defense. Bone headed plays all over the court. BUT he can be a very good 6th man type. Instant offense when he has it going. Unstoppable at his size when he puts the ball on the court. And when the shot is dropping, he can hit it from anywhere.

Problem is is that the Knicks have to rely upon him too much.

On a good team, he is worth $7-8M off the bench.

Yea, just like what happened with Jamal. That's his role. What the Knicks are using him for, or allowing him to do, is just not good. 5-20 last night, whatever, that's not the worse part. I saw only the second half of the game and what stood out in the fourth was Al totally ignoring a wide open Hughes to drive 1 on 3, and then that stupid technical, and then Gallo passing on a wide open shot to get Al a look-- which is Gallo's fault, in a way, but I am willing to guess that Al is a good guy off the court and the young and well-meaning Gallo sometimes sacrifices his game to appease or attempt to please Al Harrington on the court, which is not good for Gallo or Al. Is just not good. If we can keep him at like, whatever, 5-8 million, as a 6th man with a tight role, fine, but this is no good.

tkf wrote:

McK1 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We lost this game for one reason--we didnt take good shots--we didnt have a need to take 28 3's and we won't be a good consistent team unless we realize w need to take better more efficient shots.

We are playing very good defensive basketball--we just need to hit good shots to win--giving the other team so many opportunities with missed shots isn't the way you win games.

Agreed Briggs. I don't have a problem with Gallo taking his 3's (he did take 11 of them but also went to the line 7 times) - he's going to make a high % of them, but I do have a problem with Harrington taking 7 of them. Harrington shot horribly from the floor today and should've been more focused on taking the ball to the hoop instead of still chucking up those 3's that he was taking.

Harrington absolutely killed us today with his 5-20.

gallo was 5-7 from 2 and 3-11 from 3. he was just as bad as Al.

so 8-18 is just as bad as 5-20? I dont get that....

he was just as bad with his shot selection. why take 11 3's especially when you have the mid range J going? matter offact why take 11 3's period?

This is not Hakeem's Rockets or Shaq's Magic or Howard's Magic. This is a team that needs a collaborative of things to go right to win. Get the **** off the 3 line and take better shots Galinari.

orangeblobman wrote:Now do you guys understand why Al Harrington is NOT a keeper? Thank you.

It's unbelievable how good Al can look for multiple games and then how shtty he can look at other times--really an enigma. I think the bottom line with Al is that his career could've should've been better if he took smarter shots--learned how to share the ball better and used his impressive size to rebound more than he has. He has the physical ability to be an all star but a 4th grade basketball IQ.