oohah wrote:

tkf wrote:

no, more like.. ridiculous....

I remember during LB you once responded to one of my posts about how LB was doing terrible that "LB was a hall of famer, who the hell are you?" etc.

Then a month later you were climbing all over LB's ass. I showed you the aforementioned post and you were all hemming and hawing.

I expect a repeat of that chain of incidents in the not too distant future.

oohah

The difference is, I will defend someone when they are right and get on them when they are wrong. I love larry brown, now I don't know when I was climbing all over him, but I still like him to this day. Is he perfect? no, but unlike you, I don't make rush judgments 10 games into a season..

Plus what the hell does LB have to do with this? again, stay on track...

tkf wrote:

The difference is, I will defend someone when they are right and get on them when they are wrong. I love larry brown, now I don't know when I was climbing all over him, but I still like him to this day. Is he perfect? no, but unlike you, I don't make rush judgments 10 games into a season..

Plus what the hell does LB have to do with this? again, stay on track...

You try to stay on track please. The point is your inconsistency of opinion is the only consistent thing about your posts. Follow me?

oohah

oohah wrote:

tkf wrote:
Ok, then sit back, stop whining and lets see where hill ends up.... until then, you are wrong... Unless you are telling me for sure, he won't be come really gooddamn good... and if you can tell me that, I would also like the powerball numbers as well....

See, in America we are allowed to state our predictions. Comparing my prediction that Hill won't be really Goddamn good and that Jennings was the perfect pick simply based on our need for a PG to Powerball is one of your more amusing reaches yet!

I have to thank you for easing the pain in my gut of knowing that Jennings put on a another superstar perfomrance this evening nearly willing the short-handed fukcing Bucks past the Mavericks.

oohah

state a precition.. but stop acting as if you are stating facts....

And yea, jennings shot 8-22 and his silly shot taking late in the game is one of the reasons why the bucks didn't win a game dallas was trying to give away.......

nice try.. play again..

oohah wrote:

tkf wrote:

The difference is, I will defend someone when they are right and get on them when they are wrong. I love larry brown, now I don't know when I was climbing all over him, but I still like him to this day. Is he perfect? no, but unlike you, I don't make rush judgments 10 games into a season..

Plus what the hell does LB have to do with this? again, stay on track...

You try to stay on track please. The point is your inconsistency of opinion is the only consistent thing about your posts. Follow me?

oohah

that story is getting old.. dude you have no argument, now it is time for the sideshow... diversion time.. All you need is your ringmaster hat and silly ass red and white striped jacket and you will be set... LOL...

Step right up, step right up..

oohah wrote:

tkf wrote:
state a precition.. but stop acting as if you are stating facts....

And yea, jennings shot 8-22 and his silly shot taking late in the game is one of the reasons why the bucks didn't win a game dallas was trying to give away.......

nice try.. play again..

I did state a prediction...and you told me it was too early to predict. Can you even remember what you wrote 20 minutes ago? Jeez.

Yup, that Jennings sure did blow that game that he almost won with his near triple-double while playing on a team of Bogut + nobody!

Whew! Are we in the Twilight Zone or what? NeeNee-NooNoo NeeNee-NooNoo!

oohah

then make your prediction and move on.. stop trying to state is as fact.. that is what you are trying to do and you got called on it.. now you are trying to divert the argument.. It is like saying, I predict the colts will win the superbowl, so give them the trophy and forget the remaining 7 games because I am not wrong... LOL.. it doesn't work that way. You can't predict something, and say you are not wrong for a fact before the act happens.... Just because you don't like a player... talk about twilight zone......

And whatever, I am not defending the bucks, if your argument is that he has bogut and nobody then carry on... obviously you don't watch the games... illyasova and ridnour were the reasons that the game went into OT and not continued to be a blowout.... jennings and his 8-22 shooting wasn't getting the job done..

again.. you fail...

goodbye...

martin wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:amare averaged 14 and 9 his rookie year, with a season high of 38 points.

hill, who is 2 years older than amare was his rookie year, on the most optimistic prediction, maybe would average 6 points and 4 rebounds. (current avg: 5 pts 2 reb)

walsh whiffed on the pick. everybody needs to admit it. 8 games is more than enough time.

why would you declare a pick a whiff when the season and career is like 10 games in?

because jennings just dropped 55 in game 7. there were a bunch of players going in the draft, but i'll never forget looking at the dry erase board in my living room and crossing off evans, curry, rubio, and jennings was the last one on it. he's just perfect for this stage, flashy player, hard worker, SO quick, literally the perfect player to orchestrate this offense. this system NEEDS a good point guard or its all worthless, as we are seeing with duhon this year. 10 games in? ha, i watched jennings in his 3rd game and knew he'd be a solid pro. saw hill a week later at MSG live and was thoroughly unimpressed. dude was literally watching jumbo tron's "what song is the knick humming" during time outs. jennings had another tremendous performance tonight. is front-runner for ROY. yea, maybe hill develops into a double-double guy. whoppee doo. jennings is going to be a star in the league. i don't need any more of a sample to tell me that.

martin wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:

martin wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:amare averaged 14 and 9 his rookie year, with a season high of 38 points.

hill, who is 2 years older than amare was his rookie year, on the most optimistic prediction, maybe would average 6 points and 4 rebounds. (current avg: 5 pts 2 reb)

walsh whiffed on the pick. everybody needs to admit it. 8 games is more than enough time.

why would you declare a pick a whiff when the season and career is like 10 games in?

because jennings just dropped 55 in game 7. there were a bunch of players going in the draft, but i'll never forget looking at the dry erase board in my living room and crossing off evans, curry, rubio, and jennings was the last one on it. he's just perfect for this stage, flashy player, hard worker, SO quick, literally the perfect player to orchestrate this offense. this system NEEDS a good point guard or its all worthless, as we are seeing with duhon this year. 10 games in? ha, i watched jennings in his 3rd game and knew he'd be a solid pro. saw hill a week later at MSG live and was thoroughly unimpressed. dude was literally watching jumbo tron's "what song is the knick humming" during time outs. jennings had another tremendous performance tonight. is front-runner for ROY. yea, maybe hill develops into a double-double guy. whoppee doo. jennings is going to be a star in the league. i don't need any more of a sample to tell me that.

Jennings may be a solid PG. His career has nothing to do with Hill's.

I would hazard a guess and predict that the guys who speak up the most for Jennings are also going to be the ones who get on Hill's case the most, even if he shows solid growth as a player over the rest of the season.

TheGame wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:amare averaged 14 and 9 his rookie year, with a season high of 38 points.

hill, who is 2 years older than amare was his rookie year, on the most optimistic prediction, maybe would average 6 points and 4 rebounds. (current avg: 5 pts 2 reb)

walsh whiffed on the pick. everybody needs to admit it. 8 games is more than enough time.

Walsh whiffed on the pick because we needed a pg and Jennings was available. It is still too soon to evaluate Hill. Amare averaged more points but he also played more minutes. If you gave Hill 28 minutes a game, I could see him having a few 20 pts games and maybe even a 30 pt game if his jumper was falling. The kid can play. The only real question with him is whether his BBIQ develops to where he understands where he needs to be on the floor on offense and defense. He still looks lost out there at times, but even looking lost he managed to shoot and play better defense than Lee. Is he going to be the next Amare, I agree that is unlikely to happen. But the kid can be a quality PF if he develops. I think an young Antonio Mcdyess(?) would be his ceiling. His floor would be Chris Wilcox.

At the end of the day you look at the tape, you have a guy in for workouts and do your research.

lol.. this is going to be tough to read:

Knicks president Donnie Walsh made a damning statement Friday, saying he didn't "have a good enough feel" for Jennings' game. Jennings leapt from high school to Italy last season.

"I thought I showed them enough in the workout on one-on-one drills, beating everyone else up and down the court, playing defense," Jennings said. "I thought me and D'Antoni would have a good relationship, speak a little Italian together and go to Italian restaurants. I seen what he did for Steve Nash."

D'Antoni said it's too early to brand the Hill pick a mistake, though a source said the Knicks' scouts were higher on Hill than was the coaching staff. D'Antoni hopes his last two stints will get Hill going.

"I felt happy for him because he hasn't had much of a chance," D'Antoni said of Hill's Friday cameo.

"We liked Jordan Hill, we knew [Brandon] was good," the coach said. "He had a good workout. We liked him. The consensus was Jordan Hill is a better talent. We also took Jordan at a spot we had a lot of guys. We just thought he was the best talent at that time. It's too early to make an assessment either way. Brandon has played well."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/jennings_new_york_missed_the_point_1uVQ6dbbV8x1sL2QKjViEM#ixzz0X7pwKgPH

25.5pts 5.5ass 4.8rbs 1.1stls 48%

Last night 25pts 8ass 7rbs and he was off.

There are game changers and there are stat players and this kid is a game changer. You are trusting a guy that drafted Gallo/Hill two players that basically play the four. Walsh has dropped the ball on basically everything that matters thus far. Clearly Zach and Jamal could be moved because they were traded again. Darko, Duhon, Roberson (Wafer was on the same summer league team and looked better and we needed a 2) all **** the bed.

You don't pass on a young center with touch that can block shots and you don't pass on a young point guard that can get to the paint at will. Jennings doesn't have Michael Redd or someone that is really spreading the floor just wait and see till that happens.

So going into this offseason we don't have a point guard, shooting guard, small foward or center. We have two power fowards and a Chandler and Douglas two guys that are nice off the bench.

I would like a little more of a blue print. I always thought you get your center and your point guard and you fill in from there. But maybe Walsh has a different method that we haven't seen yet.

It is.

Absent was the guy challenging NBA-TV's Eric Snow to a one-on-one match over the summer. Gone was the brash kid who said he was better than Ricky Rubio. In the locker room after the Bucks' heartbreaking overtime loss to the Dallas Mavericks was a point guard who shouldered all the responsibility for his team's defeat. Those maturity and character questions Jennings faced throughout the draft process? We can put those to rest. Jennings was despondent that he couldn't pull out a win for his teammates who worked so hard to help bring the Bucks back from an 18-point third-quarter deficit.

I'm not sure too many rookies can score 25 points, grab seven rebounds and dish out eight assists and be so eager to take the blame for not making the right decision on their team's last possession.

"Ersan's [Ilyasova] man had doubled me. When I looked back over the tape he was wide open for the jump shot. This is something I'm going to learn from. It's a long season," Jennings said.

Jennings wanted it to be known that this one was on him.

"At one point we were down 20 and we could have just thrown in the towel. I was 100 percent sure we were going to win in overtime. I'm kind of taking this one to the heart. You know, I feel like this one's my fault we didn't win that game."

So the Bucks may have lost this one, but judging from Brandon Jennings' postgame demeanor, don't expect him to allow losing to become a habit.

But hey we are having team meeting and getting ****ing blown out every game. Nice scouting Donnie.