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1/20/2013  4:44 AM
All this talk about strength of schedule just to have the Rockets lose to Wolves for the third time.
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1/20/2013  5:28 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:The amazing baller who is a notch below LeBron and Durant and much higher than someone else is now shooting 15-60 and has 13 TOs in his last 3 games. Say what. That dude must be hurt or on a fast or something. Is that chucking? Wait i need to check his Fts to see if he is really shooting bad. J/k. Harden needs to wake up fast.

Lebron had an 18-49 stretch with 12 TOs in 2009-10 and 18-47 with 12 TOs last year. Harden's stretch is just one notch below that! Those stretches were when Lebron was a seasoned veteran, not a 23 year old.
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1/20/2013  6:02 AM
I'm sorry but 3 less makes and 11 & 13 shots more is not one notch below that. If it is then Felton is one notch below Chris Paul. Also LeBron is not considered at top shooter. Hey this is what being a number 1 is all about. The season is long but last night was ugly. Minny had no one and he couldn't lift his team up against a bad team with players fresh off the couch. C'mon bruh.
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1/20/2013  6:14 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2013  6:19 AM
3G4G wrote:Rockets went from the most prolific offense to the worst offense in the matter of 2weeks...SHEESH they look brutal right about now....

Houston's now on a 7 game losing streak with Jeremy Lin as their starting PG. The starting PG position is a position of leadership. And Jeremy Lin is currently failing in Houston. Only 9 points after shooting 4/12 against the Hornets, along with 5 Turnovers to make it even worse? An awful, more like a horrible 2/13 shooting with only 7 points during a 7 point loss against the 76ers? Being out played/performed by a backup in Bledsoe during CP's absence? Being out played by Rondo? Now last night going 3/12 (horrible) with only 12 points against Minny? Only 2 assists when compared to 3 turnovers? Yet another Jeremy Lin/Houston loss. Basketball is a team game yes, but Jeremy Lin himself is a big time reason why Houston's dropped seven consecutive. A big reason why at that.

Jeremy Lin, as a starting PG, has been nothing but mediocre dating back to last season. 6 game losing streak with our Knicks last season followed by already losing 7 consecutive here in 2012-2013. Sat out the entire playoffs. This kid isn't a winner. A below average and/or mediocre record of 36-32 as a starting PG thus far. How about we watch Lin begin to lead his teams to victories, on a consistent basis before talking him up as some type of "must have PG" in which our Knicks front office let walk. And rightfully so too. Especially considering the fact that Houston paid out millions upon millions of dollars for A.) A kid who's never won in this league. B.) Was sleeping on a couch last season and C.) Doesn't deserve and/or never earned the type of money he's currently getting.

My guess tells me, that Houston over paid for a player who's never been a leader, has never shown leadership ability, and will never become a true leader. But yea, it was nice to check the scoreboard and see that both Chicago and Atlanta lost. Just can't get over the fact that Jeremy Lin was made out to be some type of can't miss prospect and/or anything other than a dime a dozen type of NBA career journeyman. No different than Chris Copeland. You put Copeland on another team outside of the Knicks, and ask him to score points, and Copeland would put up buckets as a 28 year old rookie.

If the Rockets continue their losing ways with Lin under control (starting PG), Jeremy Lin himself will be considered one of the most overrated career journeyman of all-time heading into next season. At the age of 24, Lin should be better than this. Much better than this to say the least. Kid's like Kyrie Irving are dropping 23.1 points and 5.7 assists per game at the age of only 20... Please, never let me see someone use Irving and the Cavs as an excuse to Lin's current situation there in Houston.

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1/20/2013  6:40 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:The amazing baller who is a notch below LeBron and Durant and much higher than someone else is now shooting 15-60 and has 13 TOs in his last 3 games. Say what. That dude must be hurt or on a fast or something. Is that chucking? Wait i need to check his Fts to see if he is really shooting bad. J/k. Harden needs to wake up fast.

Lebron had an 18-49 stretch with 12 TOs in 2009-10 and 18-47 with 12 TOs last year. Harden's stretch is just one notch below that! Those stretches were when Lebron was a seasoned veteran, not a 23 year old.

Well let's see if Harden could take his team to the Finals...

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1/20/2013  9:05 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
3G4G wrote:Rockets went from the most prolific offense to the worst offense in the matter of 2weeks...SHEESH they look brutal right about now....

They stopped running and a lot of iso harden. They went back to corner Lin.

That's not what I saw. Lin had his chances but right now he can't shoot. He should probably study a little Andre Miller although he doesn't exactly have the same body type but he needs to learn how to play below the 3pt line.

Not sure what chances you are talking about. Event the rocket announcers were saying that rockets are not moving without the ball and is just watching harden or whoever has the ball. Lin is a PnR PG yet they don't set a proper screen to him.


Lin is not a PNR pg, he cant shoot.

Lin is a "i must have the ball 100% of the time, and have everyone else stand and wait while i do my thing" pg.

Sorry, but the better pg's can play off the ball as well, Lin has no such game of that caliber.

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1/20/2013  9:40 AM
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3G4G wrote:Rockets went from the most prolific offense to the worst offense in the matter of 2weeks...SHEESH they look brutal right about now....

Houston's now on a 7 game losing streak with Jeremy Lin as their starting PG. The starting PG position is a position of leadership. And Jeremy Lin is currently failing in Houston. Only 9 points after shooting 4/12 against the Hornets, along with 5 Turnovers to make it even worse? An awful, more like a horrible 2/13 shooting with only 7 points during a 7 point loss against the 76ers? Being out played/performed by a backup in Bledsoe during CP's absence? Being out played by Rondo? Now last night going 3/12 (horrible) with only 12 points against Minny? Only 2 assists when compared to 3 turnovers? Yet another Jeremy Lin/Houston loss. Basketball is a team game yes, but Jeremy Lin himself is a big time reason why Houston's dropped seven consecutive. A big reason why at that.

Jeremy Lin, as a starting PG, has been nothing but mediocre dating back to last season. 6 game losing streak with our Knicks last season followed by already losing 7 consecutive here in 2012-2013. Sat out the entire playoffs. This kid isn't a winner. A below average and/or mediocre record of 36-32 as a starting PG thus far. How about we watch Lin begin to lead his teams to victories, on a consistent basis before talking him up as some type of "must have PG" in which our Knicks front office let walk. And rightfully so too. Especially considering the fact that Houston paid out millions upon millions of dollars for A.) A kid who's never won in this league. B.) Was sleeping on a couch last season and C.) Doesn't deserve and/or never earned the type of money he's currently getting.

My guess tells me, that Houston over paid for a player who's never been a leader, has never shown leadership ability, and will never become a true leader. But yea, it was nice to check the scoreboard and see that both Chicago and Atlanta lost. Just can't get over the fact that Jeremy Lin was made out to be some type of can't miss prospect and/or anything other than a dime a dozen type of NBA career journeyman. No different than Chris Copeland. You put Copeland on another team outside of the Knicks, and ask him to score points, and Copeland would put up buckets as a 28 year old rookie.

If the Rockets continue their losing ways with Lin under control (starting PG), Jeremy Lin himself will be considered one of the most overrated career journeyman of all-time heading into next season. At the age of 24, Lin should be better than this. Much better than this to say the least. Kid's like Kyrie Irving are dropping 23.1 points and 5.7 assists per game at the age of only 20... Please, never let me see someone use Irving and the Cavs as an excuse to Lin's current situation there in Houston.

sounds very familiar..

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1/20/2013  9:47 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:I'm sorry but 3 less makes and 11 & 13 shots more is not one notch below that. If it is then Felton is one notch below Chris Paul. Also LeBron is not considered at top shooter. Hey this is what being a number 1 is all about. The season is long but last night was ugly. Minny had no one and he couldn't lift his team up against a bad team with players fresh off the couch. C'mon bruh.

I didn't say how big the notch was!
Obviously at 23 Harden is much more inconsistent than Durant and Lebron are.
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1/20/2013  9:48 AM
tkf wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
3G4G wrote:Rockets went from the most prolific offense to the worst offense in the matter of 2weeks...SHEESH they look brutal right about now....

Houston's now on a 7 game losing streak with Jeremy Lin as their starting PG. The starting PG position is a position of leadership. And Jeremy Lin is currently failing in Houston. Only 9 points after shooting 4/12 against the Hornets, along with 5 Turnovers to make it even worse? An awful, more like a horrible 2/13 shooting with only 7 points during a 7 point loss against the 76ers? Being out played/performed by a backup in Bledsoe during CP's absence? Being out played by Rondo? Now last night going 3/12 (horrible) with only 12 points against Minny? Only 2 assists when compared to 3 turnovers? Yet another Jeremy Lin/Houston loss. Basketball is a team game yes, but Jeremy Lin himself is a big time reason why Houston's dropped seven consecutive. A big reason why at that.

Jeremy Lin, as a starting PG, has been nothing but mediocre dating back to last season. 6 game losing streak with our Knicks last season followed by already losing 7 consecutive here in 2012-2013. Sat out the entire playoffs. This kid isn't a winner. A below average and/or mediocre record of 36-32 as a starting PG thus far. How about we watch Lin begin to lead his teams to victories, on a consistent basis before talking him up as some type of "must have PG" in which our Knicks front office let walk. And rightfully so too. Especially considering the fact that Houston paid out millions upon millions of dollars for A.) A kid who's never won in this league. B.) Was sleeping on a couch last season and C.) Doesn't deserve and/or never earned the type of money he's currently getting.

My guess tells me, that Houston over paid for a player who's never been a leader, has never shown leadership ability, and will never become a true leader. But yea, it was nice to check the scoreboard and see that both Chicago and Atlanta lost. Just can't get over the fact that Jeremy Lin was made out to be some type of can't miss prospect and/or anything other than a dime a dozen type of NBA career journeyman. No different than Chris Copeland. You put Copeland on another team outside of the Knicks, and ask him to score points, and Copeland would put up buckets as a 28 year old rookie.

If the Rockets continue their losing ways with Lin under control (starting PG), Jeremy Lin himself will be considered one of the most overrated career journeyman of all-time heading into next season. At the age of 24, Lin should be better than this. Much better than this to say the least. Kid's like Kyrie Irving are dropping 23.1 points and 5.7 assists per game at the age of only 20... Please, never let me see someone use Irving and the Cavs as an excuse to Lin's current situation there in Houston.

sounds very familiar..


Gallo?
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1/20/2013  9:50 AM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:The amazing baller who is a notch below LeBron and Durant and much higher than someone else is now shooting 15-60 and has 13 TOs in his last 3 games. Say what. That dude must be hurt or on a fast or something. Is that chucking? Wait i need to check his Fts to see if he is really shooting bad. J/k. Harden needs to wake up fast.

Lebron had an 18-49 stretch with 12 TOs in 2009-10 and 18-47 with 12 TOs last year. Harden's stretch is just one notch below that! Those stretches were when Lebron was a seasoned veteran, not a 23 year old.

Well let's see if Harden could take his team to the Finals...


How is that relevant? No one said he is as good as Lebron.
I don't think there's much of a difference between making it to the 2nd round in the west and to the finals from the east though. The top 4 teams in the west (which would correspond to the 2nd round) are about as good as the top team in the east.
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1/20/2013  9:51 AM
tkf wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
3G4G wrote:Rockets went from the most prolific offense to the worst offense in the matter of 2weeks...SHEESH they look brutal right about now....

Houston's now on a 7 game losing streak with Jeremy Lin as their starting PG. The starting PG position is a position of leadership. And Jeremy Lin is currently failing in Houston. Only 9 points after shooting 4/12 against the Hornets, along with 5 Turnovers to make it even worse? An awful, more like a horrible 2/13 shooting with only 7 points during a 7 point loss against the 76ers? Being out played/performed by a backup in Bledsoe during CP's absence? Being out played by Rondo? Now last night going 3/12 (horrible) with only 12 points against Minny? Only 2 assists when compared to 3 turnovers? Yet another Jeremy Lin/Houston loss. Basketball is a team game yes, but Jeremy Lin himself is a big time reason why Houston's dropped seven consecutive. A big reason why at that.

Jeremy Lin, as a starting PG, has been nothing but mediocre dating back to last season. 6 game losing streak with our Knicks last season followed by already losing 7 consecutive here in 2012-2013. Sat out the entire playoffs. This kid isn't a winner. A below average and/or mediocre record of 36-32 as a starting PG thus far. How about we watch Lin begin to lead his teams to victories, on a consistent basis before talking him up as some type of "must have PG" in which our Knicks front office let walk. And rightfully so too. Especially considering the fact that Houston paid out millions upon millions of dollars for A.) A kid who's never won in this league. B.) Was sleeping on a couch last season and C.) Doesn't deserve and/or never earned the type of money he's currently getting.

My guess tells me, that Houston over paid for a player who's never been a leader, has never shown leadership ability, and will never become a true leader. But yea, it was nice to check the scoreboard and see that both Chicago and Atlanta lost. Just can't get over the fact that Jeremy Lin was made out to be some type of can't miss prospect and/or anything other than a dime a dozen type of NBA career journeyman. No different than Chris Copeland. You put Copeland on another team outside of the Knicks, and ask him to score points, and Copeland would put up buckets as a 28 year old rookie.

If the Rockets continue their losing ways with Lin under control (starting PG), Jeremy Lin himself will be considered one of the most overrated career journeyman of all-time heading into next season. At the age of 24, Lin should be better than this. Much better than this to say the least. Kid's like Kyrie Irving are dropping 23.1 points and 5.7 assists per game at the age of only 20... Please, never let me see someone use Irving and the Cavs as an excuse to Lin's current situation there in Houston.

sounds very familiar..


LOL!
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1/20/2013  9:59 AM
I wouldn't but would Morey trade Lin, Jones, patterson/ Morris for Gasol? They can probably get Gay or Mislap who are younger without giving up Lin. Can you cut bait so early? I personally think Lin will find his way.
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1/20/2013  10:06 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:I wouldn't but would Morey trade Lin, Jones, patterson/ Morris for Gasol? They can probably get Gay or Mislap who are younger without giving up Lin. Can you cut bait so early? I personally think Lin will find his way.

Might be Z-Bo, although they wouldn't need to trad Lin to make it work, just enough of the kids + Delfino would get it done.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

Source says that the Memphis Grizzlies may keep Rudy Gay, and instead trade Zach Randolph to the Houston Rockets. Houston loves Randolph.

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1/20/2013  10:16 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:I wouldn't but would Morey trade Lin, Jones, patterson/ Morris for Gasol? They can probably get Gay or Mislap who are younger without giving up Lin. Can you cut bait so early? I personally think Lin will find his way.

You mean Marc not Pau, right? I would give up a lot to get Marc Gasol and pair him with Harden. They'd still be weak at PF but they could probably trade Asik for a decent PF.
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1/20/2013  10:22 AM
knickscity wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I wouldn't but would Morey trade Lin, Jones, patterson/ Morris for Gasol? They can probably get Gay or Mislap who are younger without giving up Lin. Can you cut bait so early? I personally think Lin will find his way.

Might be Z-Bo, although they wouldn't need to trad Lin to make it work, just enough of the kids + Delfino would get it done.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

Source says that the Memphis Grizzlies may keep Rudy Gay, and instead trade Zach Randolph to the Houston Rockets. Houston loves Randolph.


Next season will be Zach's thirteenth. Morey seems to be going for guys who haven't entered their primes, not players with a lot of wear and tear.
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1/20/2013  10:25 AM
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knickscity wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I wouldn't but would Morey trade Lin, Jones, patterson/ Morris for Gasol? They can probably get Gay or Mislap who are younger without giving up Lin. Can you cut bait so early? I personally think Lin will find his way.

Might be Z-Bo, although they wouldn't need to trad Lin to make it work, just enough of the kids + Delfino would get it done.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

Source says that the Memphis Grizzlies may keep Rudy Gay, and instead trade Zach Randolph to the Houston Rockets. Houston loves Randolph.


Next season will be Zach's thirteenth. Morey seems to be going for guys who haven't entered their primes, not players with a lot of wear and tear.

Yet they traded for Pau Gasol last season?
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1/20/2013  10:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2013  10:54 AM
knickscity wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
knickscity wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I wouldn't but would Morey trade Lin, Jones, patterson/ Morris for Gasol? They can probably get Gay or Mislap who are younger without giving up Lin. Can you cut bait so early? I personally think Lin will find his way.

Might be Z-Bo, although they wouldn't need to trad Lin to make it work, just enough of the kids + Delfino would get it done.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

Source says that the Memphis Grizzlies may keep Rudy Gay, and instead trade Zach Randolph to the Houston Rockets. Houston loves Randolph.


Next season will be Zach's thirteenth. Morey seems to be going for guys who haven't entered their primes, not players with a lot of wear and tear.

Yet they traded for Pau Gasol last season?

I thought we were talking about the Rockets? Gasol wasn't traded last year.
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1/20/2013  10:58 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
knickscity wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
knickscity wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I wouldn't but would Morey trade Lin, Jones, patterson/ Morris for Gasol? They can probably get Gay or Mislap who are younger without giving up Lin. Can you cut bait so early? I personally think Lin will find his way.

Might be Z-Bo, although they wouldn't need to trad Lin to make it work, just enough of the kids + Delfino would get it done.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

Source says that the Memphis Grizzlies may keep Rudy Gay, and instead trade Zach Randolph to the Houston Rockets. Houston loves Randolph.


Next season will be Zach's thirteenth. Morey seems to be going for guys who haven't entered their primes, not players with a lot of wear and tear.

Yet they traded for Pau Gasol last season?

I thought we were talking about the Rockets? Gasol wasn't traded last year.

The CP3 trad was a done deal, Pau was a Rocket, the league killed the deal.
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1/20/2013  11:12 AM
Heat sign Birdman to 10day contract.....
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1/20/2013  11:21 AM
3G4G wrote:Heat sign Birdman to 10day contract.....

First domino to fall, K-mart is next.

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