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Silverfuel
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2/26/2005  11:59 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

I didn't realize misterearl's post was sarcastic lol
u r a moron.
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2/26/2005  1:39 PM
Whoa baby - been out of town all week so am way late to this thread. I LOVE the Nazr trade. 2 #1's and we didn't give up Marbs, Craw, Sweets or Reezy? That is exactly what I'm talking about. As far as them being low 1st rounders:
Posted by crzymdups:


For everyone who thinks low picks suck, the last four last picks of the first round have panned out pretty well:

2004 - Indy - David Harrison C 7'0"
2003 - Dal - Josh Howard SF 6'7"
2002 - Atl - Dan Dickau PG 6'1"
2001 - San - Tony Parker PG 6'1"

Don't forget to add in other recent low 1st-rounders:
Nenad Krstic
Tayshaun Prince
Jamaal Tinsley
Sam Dalembert
Primoz Brezec
Gerald Wallace

plus 2nd rounders who made it, free agents, etc. I wanted IT to keep the aforementioned 4 guys, and get youth/#1 picks to build around them. He's doing that.

As far as the Houston trade, I don't particiaurly like it, but I don't particularly care that much either. Lots of good arguments on this thread about the implications re: expiring contracts, but I'm not digging that deeply into that. I'm more focused on the # 1's, holding onto and developing our young players, keep rebuildling with youth.
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2/26/2005  1:58 PM
I'd have to say that sums it up.
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2/26/2005  8:43 PM
(or, A Rose By Any Other Name.... )

The Knicks Didn't Lose A Center,

They gained some desperately needed Heart And Soul

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2/26/2005  8:46 PM
Posted by misterearl:

(or, A Rose By Any Other Name.... )

The Knicks Didn't Lose A Center,

They gained some desperately needed Heart And Soul

they gained defense and skill. two things Nazr didn't have. AllNazr could do is rebound and putback dunks.
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2/26/2005  11:10 PM
Rose and Taylor and not tradable, they are no better then Anderson and Spoon, they make way over there market value for a long time.

Stop being such a homer and realize that IT has messed majorly yet again. He is the second coming of Layden.

How he even got Mo, Layden's biggest desire back in the day. And Rose in a year will be no diferent from picking up Spoon.

The team is so much the same its not even funny, we have 6 PF and no centers again. We have no backup PG's.

We'd be awesome if this was a 6 8 and under league, especially consideing that would make TT ineligible.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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2/26/2005  11:20 PM
rose and taylor are light years ahead of shandon and spoon. you must really like those 2 guys for some reason to say something like that
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2/26/2005  11:23 PM
Spoon was doing the same thing Rose did tonight his first year with the Knicks.

Peopel forget, but thats the truth. He dropped off the next few years, becaue he was too old, and age is not kind to undersized fat PF's.

In a year Rose will be in that drop of territory when he'll really start to suck.

As for Taylor, the only thing he can do is score, kinda like Othella, and Shanden could only defend.

All one dimentional players. A lot of people don't realzie the reason to hate Spoon, Anderson, etc.

They just hate caue we were bad, but the right reason to hate them was becaue they were etierh too old or one dimensonal on a team that asked them to do too many things caue it was so short on talent.

If you really analyze the situation, this is not any different.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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2/26/2005  11:28 PM
i dont remember Spoon ever being considered to be as good a defender and hustle player as Malik Rose. When you think of Spoon you think of his hotdog neck being blocked every time.
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2/27/2005  1:13 AM
It looks like we went back in time before last year, when we had 'Spoon, Harrington, Thomas, Sweetney at PF... (am I forgetting someone?)

We're short in every position but PF now... Kind of amusing.



Posted by fishmike:

we now have 5 PFs all about 6'8 that are all similar players. What happened to young and athletic? These guys are short and squat with bad contracts. Whats to like?

Yes Bonn... cant wait to see what Isiah does with $30mm in expiring deals. Maybe package them for Jalen Rose?

Lets look at the guys with at least 2 MORE years after this one:
Rose
JYD
KT
Mo Taylor
Houston

That sucks... hey, I had hopes for Layden all the way to the end, but this is his kind of move.
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2/27/2005  1:19 AM
Posted by technomaster:

It looks like we went back in time before last year, when we had 'Spoon, Harrington, Thomas, Sweetney at PF... (am I forgetting someone?)

We're short in every position but PF now... Kind of amusing.



Posted by fishmike:

we now have 5 PFs all about 6'8 that are all similar players. What happened to young and athletic? These guys are short and squat with bad contracts. Whats to like?

Yes Bonn... cant wait to see what Isiah does with $30mm in expiring deals. Maybe package them for Jalen Rose?

Lets look at the guys with at least 2 MORE years after this one:
Rose
JYD
KT
Mo Taylor
Houston

That sucks... hey, I had hopes for Layden all the way to the end, but this is his kind of move.

except all these guys are better than weatherspoon and sweetney is more seasoned and oh by the way we have Stephon Marbury and Jamal Crawford.
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2/27/2005  1:43 AM
i noticed that with nazr gone it is TT's role to crash the boards when marbs penetrates
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2/27/2005  9:58 AM
"except all these guys are better than weatherspoon and sweetney is more seasoned and oh by the way we have Stephon Marbury and Jamal Crawford."

Thank You gunsewing

Would anyone here trade Keith Van Horn and Mike Doleac for Malik Rose, Tim Thomas AND two first round picks?

The idea is to get better

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2/27/2005  10:03 AM
The idea is to get better...what a novel idea.

Funny right...we win, they hate, we lose, they hate.

We should rename the url UltimateKnickHaters.com

We should be celebrating winning 4 out of 6 and playing hard and makinga playoff push.

instead, we're micromanaging dolan's money and Zeke's moves.

I guess the yahoo board is better in that respect.

ps. Board admins...I know some of you are hatin, but don't get mad at me for rooting for my team.
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2/27/2005  10:12 AM
Where is the yahoo site ???
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2/27/2005  11:47 AM
Posted by rvhoss:

We should rename the url UltimateKnickHaters.com
Hey man, everyone here is a Knick fan. They hate the players/GMs/coachs but never the team. Even playa is a Knick fan. He likes to troll but he is a Knick fan so stop with the "Haters" stuff. Dont the fans have the right to speak against the teams management/players/coaches?
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Knicks get two FIRST ROUND PICKS!!!! NY/HOU/SA

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