But Kolek has had enough time to work on getting in NBA shape. Better conditioning helps on both sides of the court. Should think about going to IMG, or one of those places. Or hire a full time trainer, if he hasn’t already.

GustavBahler wrote:I think Kolek’s biggest obstacle at this point is conditioning. You look at PGs who were the same size that succeeded in the NBA, made a point of getting themselves jacked up. Kolek looks about the same as he did in last year’s SL. Can’t expect a big jump in his game shortly after the season ended, after 7 minutes a game.

But Kolek has had enough time to work on getting in NBA shape. Better conditioning helps on both sides of the court. Should think about going to IMG, or one of those places. Or hire a full time trainer, if he hasn’t already.

You serious?

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I think Kolek’s biggest obstacle at this point is conditioning. You look at PGs who were the same size that succeeded in the NBA, made a point of getting themselves jacked up. Kolek looks about the same as he did in last year’s SL. Can’t expect a big jump in his game shortly after the season ended, after 7 minutes a game.

But Kolek has had enough time to work on getting in NBA shape. Better conditioning helps on both sides of the court. Should think about going to IMG, or one of those places. Or hire a full time trainer, if he hasn’t already.

You serious?

Get bent

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I think Kolek’s biggest obstacle at this point is conditioning. You look at PGs who were the same size that succeeded in the NBA, made a point of getting themselves jacked up. Kolek looks about the same as he did in last year’s SL. Can’t expect a big jump in his game shortly after the season ended, after 7 minutes a game.

But Kolek has had enough time to work on getting in NBA shape. Better conditioning helps on both sides of the court. Should think about going to IMG, or one of those places. Or hire a full time trainer, if he hasn’t already.

You serious?

Get bent

Get real. You think this guy gets to that level of hoop and nobody has checked his physical conditioning? Do you have any idea the investment NBA teams put into these athletes let alone the Knicks who for years seem to be a forward thinking progressive organization employinging technology to measure these guys? You rely on posted video to see how players are training off season and if you don't see it, it does not happen? Casey Smith became available and knicks added him to what was considered a very well team.

You got called out on one post. Don't be so sensitive.

Would you talk like this to me in person? I doubt it. They would be feeding you through a tube. Stop being such a douche. You disagree, explain why. Don’t answer with a douchey “You serious?”

As far as conditioning. Ever occur to you that Kolek isn’t in peak condition? Measure all you want, there is room for improvement. If you can’t see that it’s on you.

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I think Kolek’s biggest obstacle at this point is conditioning. You look at PGs who were the same size that succeeded in the NBA, made a point of getting themselves jacked up. Kolek looks about the same as he did in last year’s SL. Can’t expect a big jump in his game shortly after the season ended, after 7 minutes a game.

But Kolek has had enough time to work on getting in NBA shape. Better conditioning helps on both sides of the court. Should think about going to IMG, or one of those places. Or hire a full time trainer, if he hasn’t already.

You serious?

Get bent

Get real. You think this guy gets to that level of hoop and nobody has checked his physical conditioning? Do you have any idea the investment NBA teams put into these athletes let alone the Knicks who for years seem to be a forward thinking progressive organization employinging technology to measure these guys? You rely on posted video to see how players are training off season and if you don't see it, it does not happen? Casey Smith became available and knicks added him to what was considered a very well team.

You got called out on one post. Don't be so sensitive.

Would you talk like this to me in person? I doubt it. They would be feeding you through a tube. Stop being such a douche. You disagree, explain why. Don’t answer with a douchey “You serious?”

As far as conditioning. Ever occur to you that Kolek isn’t in peak condition? Measure all you want, there is room for improvement. If you can’t see that it’s on you.

I don't see it. It never occurred to me. Maybe he is and he just is not good enough? YOur the one that bought it up, so guide us to why you think he is not in proper condition. He is not "Jacked" to your liking visually?
He did well in Gleague games. I would assume non starters practiced different than starters. So the 7min per game is not his only cardio work out. he lifting weights?
He bulks up won't he lose some dexterity or quickness?
Tell us why with a world class training staff and access to it year round he needs to visit the IMG academy or hire a trainer?
That's why I said "You serious". really? That got you all worked up. You'd beat me up for that? This is how you converse when challenged?
Put me on a feeding tube will put you in jail. Then the Civil suit comes and your net worth gets sucked up paying my medical bills.

Then you told me to **** off. Tell me, is that how you do sports talk?

That my friend is why you take this stuff way too serious. Not the first time I can recollect.

Haven’t the both of you been here for like infinity?

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I think Kolek’s biggest obstacle at this point is conditioning. You look at PGs who were the same size that succeeded in the NBA, made a point of getting themselves jacked up. Kolek looks about the same as he did in last year’s SL. Can’t expect a big jump in his game shortly after the season ended, after 7 minutes a game.

But Kolek has had enough time to work on getting in NBA shape. Better conditioning helps on both sides of the court. Should think about going to IMG, or one of those places. Or hire a full time trainer, if he hasn’t already.

You serious?

Get bent

Get real. You think this guy gets to that level of hoop and nobody has checked his physical conditioning? Do you have any idea the investment NBA teams put into these athletes let alone the Knicks who for years seem to be a forward thinking progressive organization employinging technology to measure these guys? You rely on posted video to see how players are training off season and if you don't see it, it does not happen? Casey Smith became available and knicks added him to what was considered a very well team.

You got called out on one post. Don't be so sensitive.

Would you talk like this to me in person? I doubt it. They would be feeding you through a tube. Stop being such a douche. You disagree, explain why. Don’t answer with a douchey “You serious?”

As far as conditioning. Ever occur to you that Kolek isn’t in peak condition? Measure all you want, there is room for improvement. If you can’t see that it’s on you.

I don't see it. It never occurred to me. Maybe he is and he just is not good enough? YOur the one that bought it up, so guide us to why you think he is not in proper condition. He is not "Jacked" to your liking visually?
He did well in Gleague games. I would assume non starters practiced different than starters. So the 7min per game is not his only cardio work out. he lifting weights?
He bulks up won't he lose some dexterity or quickness?
Tell us why with a world class training staff and access to it year round he needs to visit the IMG academy or hire a trainer?
That's why I said "You serious". really? That got you all worked up. You'd beat me up for that? This is how you converse when challenged?
Put me on a feeding tube will put you in jail. Then the Civil suit comes and your net worth gets sucked up paying my medical bills.

Then you told me to **** off. Tell me, is that how you do sports talk?

That my friend is why you take this stuff way too serious. Not the first time I can recollect.

You’ve been called out many times by other posters because of the way you interact with them. Generally being a smart ass. You do that enough and from time to time you are going to hear it. You should expect it. Most posters just take it. Most of the time I do as well, because it’s not worth it. 1248, PhilC, the list goes on. You receive most of my angry posts because you’re the one who acts like he”s the king of this place, and we all need to be checked by you. Leave that to Martin. it’s his site.

Nalod wrote:Phil and 1248 are great examples. You can't speak for "Most posters". Your looking for support? Nobody cares about beefs.
I don't get many angry posts. I bait PhilC. He fires back. Its how it should be. 1248, and some others had other issues mostly outside of basketball.
This is the first time I can recall getting an angry post from you. But I have noticed when you mix it up with others and your told to chill from the moderator.
Yeah, I fact check. Its annoying. Feel free to call out my mistakes.
The vast majority offer opinions and we all get along just fine. Most use humor and it works.
And most call each other out when things get silly or one makes an error.
Most of us laugh about it. We all make silly mistakes.
Part of the fun is when we rib each other. Not you.
Some posters never ever concede to making a mistake and get testy when called out.
Those are usually the ones that go away or are asked to.
I did not call you names, threaten, or tell you to **** off. I made a comment about your comment.
Lighten up Francis, this is entertainment to chat it up.
"Seriously", Kolek should go to Prep school Academy "IMG" to get into better shape? You said that with like a straight face? Freaking hilarious!!!

You have a “storied” career of running your mouth. But you always act shocked when it catches up with you. There are literally thousands of posts about nothing but how you’re better than other Knicks fans. ‘fans think this” ‘Fans don’t understand” You tell people to stop speculating on a website devoted to it. Your favorite line is a variation on “don’t you think they know that?” You could apply that to every ****ing thing you have ever said on this board. But of course you won’t. It’s not enough to disagree, you have to be a douche about it. I’m feeling very “light” when I talk Knicks. Your keyboard douchebagerry is about the only thing that spoils it. So try conversing with someone else. You won’t. That would be the mature thing to do. God knows I’ve suggested it.

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:Phil and 1248 are great examples. You can't speak for "Most posters". Your looking for support? Nobody cares about beefs.
I don't get many angry posts. I bait PhilC. He fires back. Its how it should be. 1248, and some others had other issues mostly outside of basketball.
This is the first time I can recall getting an angry post from you. But I have noticed when you mix it up with others and your told to chill from the moderator.
Yeah, I fact check. Its annoying. Feel free to call out my mistakes.
The vast majority offer opinions and we all get along just fine. Most use humor and it works.
And most call each other out when things get silly or one makes an error.
Most of us laugh about it. We all make silly mistakes.
Part of the fun is when we rib each other. Not you.
Some posters never ever concede to making a mistake and get testy when called out.
Those are usually the ones that go away or are asked to.
I did not call you names, threaten, or tell you to **** off. I made a comment about your comment.
Lighten up Francis, this is entertainment to chat it up.
"Seriously", Kolek should go to Prep school Academy "IMG" to get into better shape? You said that with like a straight face? Freaking hilarious!!!

You have a “storied” career of running your mouth. But you always act shocked when it catches up with you. There are literally thousands of posts about nothing but how you’re better than other Knicks fans. ‘fans think this” ‘Fans don’t understand” You tell people to stop speculating on a website devoted to it. Your favorite line is a variation on “don’t you think they know that?” You could apply that to every ****ing thing you have ever said on this board. But of course you won’t. It’s not enough to disagree, you have to be a douche about it. I’m feeling very “light” when I talk Knicks. Your keyboard douchebagerry is about the only thing that spoils it. So try conversing with someone else. You won’t. That would be the mature thing to do. God knows I’ve suggested it.

Now you speak to god? Ask him about Kolek training routine.
Maybe god types thru Nalods fingers to you?
I've made my points many a time. We move on.

blkexec wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:Phil and 1248 are great examples. You can't speak for "Most posters". Your looking for support? Nobody cares about beefs.
I don't get many angry posts. I bait PhilC. He fires back. Its how it should be. 1248, and some others had other issues mostly outside of basketball.
This is the first time I can recall getting an angry post from you. But I have noticed when you mix it up with others and your told to chill from the moderator.
Yeah, I fact check. Its annoying. Feel free to call out my mistakes.
The vast majority offer opinions and we all get along just fine. Most use humor and it works.
And most call each other out when things get silly or one makes an error.
Most of us laugh about it. We all make silly mistakes.
Part of the fun is when we rib each other. Not you.
Some posters never ever concede to making a mistake and get testy when called out.
Those are usually the ones that go away or are asked to.
I did not call you names, threaten, or tell you to **** off. I made a comment about your comment.
Lighten up Francis, this is entertainment to chat it up.
"Seriously", Kolek should go to Prep school Academy "IMG" to get into better shape? You said that with like a straight face? Freaking hilarious!!!

You have a “storied” career of running your mouth. But you always act shocked when it catches up with you. There are literally thousands of posts about nothing but how you’re better than other Knicks fans. ‘fans think this” ‘Fans don’t understand” You tell people to stop speculating on a website devoted to it. Your favorite line is a variation on “don’t you think they know that?” You could apply that to every ****ing thing you have ever said on this board. But of course you won’t. It’s not enough to disagree, you have to be a douche about it. I’m feeling very “light” when I talk Knicks. Your keyboard douchebagerry is about the only thing that spoils it. So try conversing with someone else. You won’t. That would be the mature thing to do. God knows I’ve suggested it.

Now you speak to god? Ask him about Kolek training routine.
Maybe god types thru Nalods fingers to you?
I've made my points many a time. We move on.

I agree with Gus. Nobody comes on this thread to be policed all the damn time. We all like the same team and come here to release among fans. Unless Martin is paying you, Nobody cares about your policing on fans opinions. About time somebody called you out.

So its ok to let inaccurate posts go and repeated until it becomes passed on as facts? I get game chats as "release". I moslty stay off those in real time.
That any fan can pass on his opinon over and over presented as if that person is in the room when it happens?
Facts don't matter?
I don't fact check every day. Read my posts I mostly talk about hoop. The few that are problematic with me are those who accuse me of arrogance as if they don't like getting called out.
State it as opinion and even if its dumb its ones personal take and it stands on its own. Projecting ones personal values to a situation and insinuation how that player fees is not an opinion unless stated.

Arrogance works both ways. In this instance we have a poster who openly suggests a player employed by the knicks looks about the same so he suggests he hire a personal trainer or go to prep school. That not arrogant? No basis or anything to why.

Martin does not pay me. Some posters get upset when called out on facts and don't like it. Thats when "who made you boss" comments occur. Why does Nalod do this? Common courtesy, and mutal respect.
This place has been around a long time and succeeds. The guys that got banned or left when upset usually take things a bit too personal. This is why I use Nalod as a third person. Its my persona here and only here. Nalod comes to the UK to exchange ideas and learn. Not digest regurgitated crap.
Good or bad its not cool to have an opinion but pass stupidity as fact we all should want better than that and most of the posters here catch it and by doing so we collectively elevate the conversation. Some like to dumb it down with simple one sentance stabs at humor. OK, I should let some of that go. Perhaps I should dial it back at times. Like those frustrated by me I too get worked up on obviously bloated stupidity. What should I do? Let it go? Should we all let it go?

His draft grade was an A.

I think his conditioning is fine, he’s just 1-2 years away from making a real impact on this team. Put him in another system with more PT and I believe he will figure it out.