VDesai wrote:Josh should start. I think Thibs would never take Josh off the floor if he could (and we've seen that play out in real life). But you want Josh out there and just because you're adding a rim protector doesn't mean Josh should be the one coming off, though he will lose some minutes. Josh does an incredible amount for the team that no one else really offers on the roster.

I think there are matchups where you want/need the rim protection and there are matchups where its less important. And then there's the question of how many minutes per game is it required. Quite honestly at times I'd like to rest OG and put a true 4 out there (and occasionally Precious' defensive versatility has been useful). I'd also say that when Mitch comes back there will be matchups you want him out there instead of KAT - and those will be way more frequent than having him play with KAT.

But I don't think there's any circumstance where Josh isn't starting or playing close to 35 minutes.

Good points. In nowhere did I say Hart would be playing under 35.
He was first off bench last year and played how many minutes per game last year?
Do agree it’s situational. However, still feel Josh pays more dividends helping out the weak bench.
We shall see. Some may remember this when we are struggling against bigger lineups, elite teams with height and our bench is practically invisible.

HofstraBBall wrote:

VDesai wrote:Josh should start. I think Thibs would never take Josh off the floor if he could (and we've seen that play out in real life). But you want Josh out there and just because you're adding a rim protector doesn't mean Josh should be the one coming off, though he will lose some minutes. Josh does an incredible amount for the team that no one else really offers on the roster.

I think there are matchups where you want/need the rim protection and there are matchups where its less important. And then there's the question of how many minutes per game is it required. Quite honestly at times I'd like to rest OG and put a true 4 out there (and occasionally Precious' defensive versatility has been useful). I'd also say that when Mitch comes back there will be matchups you want him out there instead of KAT - and those will be way more frequent than having him play with KAT.

But I don't think there's any circumstance where Josh isn't starting or playing close to 35 minutes.

Good points. In nowhere did I say Hart would be playing under 35.
He was first off bench last year and played how many minutes per game last year?
Do agree it’s situational. However, still feel Josh pays more dividends helping out the weak bench.
We shall see. Some may remember this when we are struggling against bigger lineups, elite teams with height and our bench is practically invisible.

I used to be in this boat, but now feel like Hart helps maximize the starters in a way that is completely dominant and unique to his skillet. Rebounds, hustle plays, loose balls, passing and facilitating, whatever it takes.

The bench is weak cause the guys have been hurt and just need to round out into form. The sub patterns will have one of KAT, Brunson on the floor most of the time, and then you throw in the normal mix of others carousel-ling in and out, it really doesn't matter if Josh comes off bench or not?

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

VDesai wrote:Josh should start. I think Thibs would never take Josh off the floor if he could (and we've seen that play out in real life). But you want Josh out there and just because you're adding a rim protector doesn't mean Josh should be the one coming off, though he will lose some minutes. Josh does an incredible amount for the team that no one else really offers on the roster.

I think there are matchups where you want/need the rim protection and there are matchups where its less important. And then there's the question of how many minutes per game is it required. Quite honestly at times I'd like to rest OG and put a true 4 out there (and occasionally Precious' defensive versatility has been useful). I'd also say that when Mitch comes back there will be matchups you want him out there instead of KAT - and those will be way more frequent than having him play with KAT.

But I don't think there's any circumstance where Josh isn't starting or playing close to 35 minutes.

Good points. In nowhere did I say Hart would be playing under 35.
He was first off bench last year and played how many minutes per game last year?
Do agree it’s situational. However, still feel Josh pays more dividends helping out the weak bench.
We shall see. Some may remember this when we are struggling against bigger lineups, elite teams with height and our bench is practically invisible.

I used to be in this boat, but now feel like Hart helps maximize the starters in a way that is completely dominant and unique to his skillet. Rebounds, hustle plays, loose balls, passing and facilitating, whatever it takes.

The bench is weak cause the guys have been hurt and just need to round out into form. The sub patterns will have one of KAT, Brunson on the floor most of the time, and then you throw in the normal mix of others carousel-ling in and out, it really doesn't matter if Josh comes off bench or not?

I'm here except it is really hard for me to silence the "but, undersized" argument in my head. It doesn't seem to matter though. He is doing fantastic and playing outside his size. I have been wrong in my desire for a larger PF.

Knicks are definitely a bit undersized but then their bench - when and if Mitch gets back - makes up for that with both Mitch and Precious?

And Hart keeps piling up the triple doubles like it's nothing.

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

VDesai wrote:Josh should start. I think Thibs would never take Josh off the floor if he could (and we've seen that play out in real life). But you want Josh out there and just because you're adding a rim protector doesn't mean Josh should be the one coming off, though he will lose some minutes. Josh does an incredible amount for the team that no one else really offers on the roster.

I think there are matchups where you want/need the rim protection and there are matchups where its less important. And then there's the question of how many minutes per game is it required. Quite honestly at times I'd like to rest OG and put a true 4 out there (and occasionally Precious' defensive versatility has been useful). I'd also say that when Mitch comes back there will be matchups you want him out there instead of KAT - and those will be way more frequent than having him play with KAT.

But I don't think there's any circumstance where Josh isn't starting or playing close to 35 minutes.

Good points. In nowhere did I say Hart would be playing under 35.
He was first off bench last year and played how many minutes per game last year?
Do agree it’s situational. However, still feel Josh pays more dividends helping out the weak bench.
We shall see. Some may remember this when we are struggling against bigger lineups, elite teams with height and our bench is practically invisible.

I used to be in this boat, but now feel like Hart helps maximize the starters in a way that is completely dominant and unique to his skillet. Rebounds, hustle plays, loose balls, passing and facilitating, whatever it takes.

The bench is weak cause the guys have been hurt and just need to round out into form. The sub patterns will have one of KAT, Brunson on the floor most of the time, and then you throw in the normal mix of others carousel-ling in and out, it really doesn't matter if Josh comes off bench or not?

Agree

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