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homeskillitprigioni
Posts: 20163 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/7/2013 Member: #4507 |
1/31/2019 5:53 PM
The picks have limited value with both being in the future and being for a team that's going to have Doncic and Porzingis and a great shot at keeping him.
This deal is obviously because they think they can get 2 stars this summer, which I don't really believe. But from a value perspective...this deal is incredibly horrific. Basically an assortment of mediocre pieces for a potential franchise player. |
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30117 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
1/31/2019 5:54 PM
Uptown wrote:Vmart wrote:Let’s hope the new players don’t mess up the lotto order. Matthews is exactly the type of player we need at the SF rotation. He is a strong mentor for Dotson and Knox and fits a needed role. The team is better structured right now and has stronger defensive pieces. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
1/31/2019 5:54 PM
homeskillitprigioni wrote:The picks have limited value with both being in the future and being for a team that's going to have Doncic and Porzingis and a great shot at keeping him.KP has told the Mavs he plans on signing a QO so no guarantee he stays. Adding the firsts makes it better |
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
1/31/2019 5:54 PM
Dan Dakich pushing back on Will Cain saying Knicks won deal, not Mavs
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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Uptown
Posts: 31322 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
1/31/2019 5:55 PM
homeskillitprigioni wrote:The picks have limited value with both being in the future and being for a team that's going to have Doncic and Porzingis and a great shot at keeping him. West is deep, no guarantee they will be successful nor is it a guarantee that KP will resemble the guy that had that one good month for us... |
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PresIke
Posts: 27671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
1/31/2019 5:55 PM
Uptown wrote:I'm in the minority here...If we tale a step back and stop and let the initial shock wear off and we shed the woah-is-me attitude, its a good move for us. We are no where as close to the situation as Perry and Mills, but even we could tell something was up with KP and hi Bro dating back to when he skipped the exit interview...His instagram post that went at Fiz was uncalled for and I think management knew it was a long shot that he would re-sign. Look how fast he informed Dallas he would re-sign? also, I'm concerned about KP's health long term... Im hearing we may cut Jordan and Matthews Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
1/31/2019 5:56 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:martin wrote:Oh:Well thats a little betterTweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I want 3 first round picks!!! Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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martin
Posts: 76215 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
1/31/2019 5:56 PM
Silverfuel wrote:Can they trade DeAndre and Wes this season before Feb 7? Yes, just not together. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
1/31/2019 5:56 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Yeah Perry has a lot of work to do. He must be confident about KD and kyrie or leonard. I hated the deal originally but getting back good draft compensation has warmed me up to itStarksEwing1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Good to see you back Gustav!!Uptown wrote:GustavBahler wrote:On the fence about this deal. Kind of looks like we backed into a good situation. As smackeddog pointed out upthread, this deal looks like it was enginereed to paper over previous mistakes by mgmt, at the cost of a potential superstar. |
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33474 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
1/31/2019 5:56 PM
Uptown wrote:I'm in the minority here...If we tale a step back and stop and let the initial shock wear off and we shed the woah-is-me attitude, its a good move for us. We are no where as close to the situation as Perry and Mills, but even we could tell something was up with KP and hi Bro dating back to when he skipped the exit interview...His instagram post that went at Fiz was uncalled for and I think management knew it was a long shot that he would re-sign. Look how fast he informed Dallas he would re-sign? also, I'm concerned about KP's health long term... It's been reported Porzingis told the Mavs he would only sign the QO, which was probably what he intended to do with the Knicks anyway, which in turn scared the Knicks, who knew already there was trouble in paradise with Janis and Porzingis. I mean, this only shows Porzingis seems to have a set plan that might not even include the Mavs. Knicks_Fan
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
1/31/2019 5:59 PM
Knicksfan wrote:True. He can walk after signing the 1 year QO. If that happens then this deal can be huge for us now and the futureUptown wrote:I'm in the minority here...If we tale a step back and stop and let the initial shock wear off and we shed the woah-is-me attitude, its a good move for us. We are no where as close to the situation as Perry and Mills, but even we could tell something was up with KP and hi Bro dating back to when he skipped the exit interview...His instagram post that went at Fiz was uncalled for and I think management knew it was a long shot that he would re-sign. Look how fast he informed Dallas he would re-sign? also, I'm concerned about KP's health long term... |
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34057 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
1/31/2019 5:59 PM
I'm not saying that we are going to target AD, but in theory I would think we have a better chance of getting him today. We could offer our prospects, DSJ, and multiple firsts now
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Lol Rick needs a safe space
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33474 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
1/31/2019 5:59 PM
smackeddog wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:KP is gonna sign a QO so the Mavs have a lot of pressure on them to convince KP to stay. Adding the 2 firsts makes this a much better deal 1. His agent is his brother. 2. His brother has proven before to be problematic and have huge control on Porzingis. 3. Porzingis and his brother seem to have a plan as on where they want to take his career to. Considering this is a player's league, even with the injury, Porzingis has lots of power. Just consider how people are calling the Mavs champs and Porsingis has yet to return to play this season. Knicks_Fan
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39877 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
1/31/2019 6:00 PM
Knicksfan wrote:Uptown wrote:I'm in the minority here...If we tale a step back and stop and let the initial shock wear off and we shed the woah-is-me attitude, its a good move for us. We are no where as close to the situation as Perry and Mills, but even we could tell something was up with KP and hi Bro dating back to when he skipped the exit interview...His instagram post that went at Fiz was uncalled for and I think management knew it was a long shot that he would re-sign. Look how fast he informed Dallas he would re-sign? also, I'm concerned about KP's health long term... This deal came together quickly. Either the Knicks or Janis must've orchestrated this a few days in advance. Can't wait for more leaks to come out about what led to this. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
1/31/2019 6:06 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Uptown wrote:I'm in the minority here...If we tale a step back and stop and let the initial shock wear off and we shed the woah-is-me attitude, its a good move for us. We are no where as close to the situation as Perry and Mills, but even we could tell something was up with KP and hi Bro dating back to when he skipped the exit interview...His instagram post that went at Fiz was uncalled for and I think management knew it was a long shot that he would re-sign. Look how fast he informed Dallas he would re-sign? also, I'm concerned about KP's health long term...i hated the deal BUT getting multiple firsts makes me much happier. We still need to own this offseason but i feel better This is where Perry and Mills will really have to earn their salaries. Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42801 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
1/31/2019 6:06 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Knicksfan wrote:Uptown wrote:I'm in the minority here...If we tale a step back and stop and let the initial shock wear off and we shed the woah-is-me attitude, its a good move for us. We are no where as close to the situation as Perry and Mills, but even we could tell something was up with KP and hi Bro dating back to when he skipped the exit interview...His instagram post that went at Fiz was uncalled for and I think management knew it was a long shot that he would re-sign. Look how fast he informed Dallas he would re-sign? also, I'm concerned about KP's health long term... They were suggestin as much on ESPN, that a deal might have been in the works for some time, and tbe Knicks might have leaked this story in advance of the deal, which isnt out of the realm of possibility. It happened so fast. A player like Doncic, with his height and court vision could extend a player like KP's career. With the Knicks, KP would probably be carrying more of the load. |
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30117 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
1/31/2019 6:08 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Good to see you back Gustav!!Uptown wrote:GustavBahler wrote:On the fence about this deal. Kind of looks like we backed into a good situation. As smackeddog pointed out upthread, this deal looks like it was enginereed to paper over previous mistakes by mgmt, at the cost of a potential superstar. Word, was concerned for his health due to the disappearance. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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