gunsnewing wrote:6 more weeks until America is great again

earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.

December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-rally-protest/
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/14/13626404/trump-election-protest

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/propaganda/ron-paul-fake-news-comes-government/

The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."

You talk about the media and fake news and lies etc, but an honest question: do you genuinely believe that Trump tells the truth? What sort of percentage of the time?

the question is...why are most trump supporters believing this?

earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.

December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-rally-protest/
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/14/13626404/trump-election-protest

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/propaganda/ron-paul-fake-news-comes-government/

The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."

The news about people protesting in Cincinnati isn't fake..It's real, CNN posted the wrong picture..Is it intentional? I don't know...But other news sites have video of people protesting In Cincinnati on a "cold day", if you want to have a look....

djsunyc wrote:life has changed for trump supporters. media is full of lies. trump says the truth.

the question is...why are most trump supporters believing this?

Trump supporters invested time and emotion into electing him...to suddenly step back and look at him objectively, is asking too much, I would think.

Lets face it, he has also conditioned them to hate and not believe the media, EVEN THOUGH, they have been his BEST friend. Take a look at media coverage for Trump vs Clinton:

There are other charts and studies- Harvard did one- which show how much free coverage Trump got compared to everyone else. He might not have gotten out of the primaries without the free publicity...The president of CBS- Les Moonves basically said that covering Trump might not be good for the nation, but it was good for CBS ratings.

Media only cares about ratings, now...they will show the very rallies where he mocks and humiliates them...we are talking about an abusive relationship where the spouse continues to remain with the abuser.

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Foreign governments are starting to zing Trump and his lack of understanding...First Taiwan President called him and he took the called which pisses off China...There is a big treaty signed with the US and China that goes back to President Carter that address this...Ari Fleischer says after, he hopes that was intentional, for which he knows it not..Trump and his team is just unprepared...Next, he made a commitment to Pakistan to weight in on their disputed with India over Kashmir..So India is now pissed...Supporters are saying who cares but the China thing could be a problem...

Remember...this is a man who refuses to sit in on the Security and State Department briefings to learn what is going on.

The China faux pas was amazing...the Kasmir stuff was sheer lunacy. From what I can recall, the closest we've been to a nuclear conflict in recent decades was over conflicts between India and Pakistan.

He is already creating potential foreign policy issues that he will have to deal with when in office.

Hopefully they think he is just a buffoon we elected and try to lead him along diplomatically...Russia is all over this saying we need to make decisions together..It's just comical watching this unfold...Republicans in the house licking their chops thinking Pence will roll Donald to all their needs...

WaltLongmire wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.

December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-rally-protest/
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/14/13626404/trump-election-protest

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/propaganda/ron-paul-fake-news-comes-government/

The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."

Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...

Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?

Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.

Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.

But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Foreign governments are starting to zing Trump and his lack of understanding...First Taiwan President called him and he took the called which pisses off China...There is a big treaty signed with the US and China that goes back to President Carter that address this...Ari Fleischer says after, he hopes that was intentional, for which he knows it not..Trump and his team is just unprepared...Next, he made a commitment to Pakistan to weight in on their disputed with India over Kashmir..So India is now pissed...Supporters are saying who cares but the China thing could be a problem...

Remember...this is a man who refuses to sit in on the Security and State Department briefings to learn what is going on.

The China faux pas was amazing...the Kasmir stuff was sheer lunacy. From what I can recall, the closest we've been to a nuclear conflict in recent decades was over conflicts between India and Pakistan.

He is already creating potential foreign policy issues that he will have to deal with when in office.

Hopefully they think he is just a buffoon we elected and try to lead him along diplomatically...Russia is all over this saying we need to make decisions together..It's just comical watching this unfold...

The Russia 🇷🇺 influence is really what bothers me. Putin has had an ongoing campaign of political sabotage for a long time and now his efforts have truly come to full fruition. He got the big prize he's always wanted which is influence over the U.S. Government!!! Trump being the Useful Idiot has given Putin exactly what he wanted.

Putin wants Oligarchies all over the world! He wants everything controlled by him and other rich elites without any resistance from the masses. Trump has stocked our government with his own Rich Elites so the process is well on it's way.

What's interesting is that Marine Le Pen in France who is leading the populist movement, leading in the polls, is a big Putin supporter too...He even openly says he supports the Syrian leader..So Putin's goal is trying to destabilize NATO and it's looking like he could get it done..But a commentator on one of the talk shows this morning was saying China will step into this void...TPP was more than just a trade pact, it was a political tool to exert influence in Asia...Given the 4 most important economies will be in Asia then next decade, this could springboard China to being the most important country on the planet in the next two decades...

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.

December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-rally-protest/
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/14/13626404/trump-election-protest

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/propaganda/ron-paul-fake-news-comes-government/

The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."

Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...

Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?

Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.

Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.

But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.

What planet on you on man??????The US government did say Russia hacked the election..Are you now saying they are lying???

U.S. Says Russia Directed Hacks to Influence Elections

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/politics/us-formally-accuses-russia-of-stealing-dnc-emails.html?_r=0

I'm on Earth, hence my handle.
That article is from early October. I remember when Hillary made those comments about Russia with no proof (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/03/clintons-russia-did-it-cop-out/)and then there were reports that intelligence agencies didn't agree with her. Now, if that has changed, it really means little.

And for a variety of reasons. For starters
1 - You can't really prove it. The hack can be faked to look like it came from anywhere.
2 - It was hacked by many parties, John down the street could have just as easily done it. She chose to have an illegal private server that was relatively open.

You should really care more about the corruption, Quid Pro Quo and very likely pedophilia (#PizzaGate) that is in the emails.

ps - Marine Le Pen is a woman, not a "he"

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/793268442329735168

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.

December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-rally-protest/
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/14/13626404/trump-election-protest

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/propaganda/ron-paul-fake-news-comes-government/

The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."

Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...

Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?

Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.

Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.

But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.

What planet on you on man??????The US government did say Russia hacked the election..Are you now saying they are lying???

U.S. Says Russia Directed Hacks to Influence Elections

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/politics/us-formally-accuses-russia-of-stealing-dnc-emails.html?_r=0

I'm on Earth, hence my handle.
That article is from early October. I remember when Hillary made those comments about Russia with no proof (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/03/clintons-russia-did-it-cop-out/)and then there were reports that intelligence agencies didn't agree with her. Now, if that has changed, it really means little.

And for a variety of reasons. For starters
1 - You can't really prove it. The hack can be faked to look like it came from anywhere.
2 - It was hacked by many parties, John down the street could have just as easily done it. She chose to have an illegal private server that was relatively open.

You should really care more about the corruption, Quid Pro Quo and very likely pedophilia (#PizzaGate) that is in the emails.

ps - Marine Le Pen is a woman, not a "he"

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/793268442329735168

DRAIN THE SWAMP

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Walt, here is some Fake News straight from the horses mouth and verified. CNN of course, regarding Cincinatti protest. Original articles below. CNN lied, pretty cold to be dressed like that and someone caught it and found the original pic.

December 2nd
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-rally-protest/
From November - Same picture.
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11/14/13626404/trump-election-protest

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/propaganda/ron-paul-fake-news-comes-government/

The mainstream media and politicians peddling the line that there is a network of “fake news” sites spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda is just scapegoating to divert attention from the far worse job they have done objectively reporting the truth, Ron Paul told RT yesterday. He added:
"The fake news comes from our own government, when they tell us about why we have to go to war. …And that was probably the big issue of the campaign, and that’s why Trump did so well. [Americans have] lost confidence in the government."

Simple question...will tell us everything about where you are coming from...

Do you accept that during the election, WikiLeaks(Assange) was passing along stolen data that was hacked by Russians, designed to influence the election, and distributed to Assange with the go-ahead from former KGB operative Putin?

Personally, I don't think Russia was behind it. The US Government agrees. Actually, there is reason to believe that a US Intelligence Agency released the information as they saw the deep corruption and had to put an end to it. No proof of that theory, just like the Russian theory.

Clinton had her server hacked, probably by lots of people, not to mention State agencies, regardless of who did it, she got what she asked for. The law she broke was not only there so we can access that data via the FOIA, but also to protect her. Ironic.

But you sound like the DNC. Instead of addressing the corruption, Quid Pro Quo, #Pizzagate allegations, etc., you are more concerned about who released the true information rather than the corruption and all that it states went on. My priorities are with a non corrupt government, not who hacked their server to show corruption, State actor or not.

What planet on you on man??????The US government did say Russia hacked the election..Are you now saying they are lying???

U.S. Says Russia Directed Hacks to Influence Elections

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/politics/us-formally-accuses-russia-of-stealing-dnc-emails.html?_r=0

I'm on Earth, hence my handle.
That article is from early October. I remember when Hillary made those comments about Russia with no proof (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/03/clintons-russia-did-it-cop-out/)and then there were reports that intelligence agencies didn't agree with her. Now, if that has changed, it really means little.

And for a variety of reasons. For starters
1 - You can't really prove it. The hack can be faked to look like it came from anywhere.
2 - It was hacked by many parties, John down the street could have just as easily done it. She chose to have an illegal private server that was relatively open.

You should really care more about the corruption, Quid Pro Quo and very likely pedophilia (#PizzaGate) that is in the emails.

ps - Marine Le Pen is a woman, not a "he"

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/793268442329735168

DRAIN THE SWAMP

You said the US government agrees with you, which is a Trumpian lie..

Last I heard, they did. (And that was at a later date than your article). No lie there. If you have evidence, present it. Otherwise it is a game of he said she said.

Look, Hillary lost, get over it. If by some miracle of the devil she gets back in, or someone else, I'll move on with my life and not spread hate here.
Maybe you can do the same (now)...