CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Right now we don't have the high IQ, efficient and versatile offensive players for to build a offensive like the GS, the Spurs or he old Jazz. Hopefully that changes with Hornacek. We don't have the defensive players either but if Thibs and Vogel to a lesser extent was here I'd have a hard time beilieving they would field a defensive that is at the bottom of the league.

If we are going to win with offense we are going to have to be flawless. I think you can in that way but do we have the players to play that way? We've been searching for those elusive high IQ players for damn near 15yrs. I'm cautiously optimistic that Hornacek can coach defense and. It just offense like Dantoni. Especially since he was a gritty defensive minded player. There was little defense in PHX but maybe he made the most out of what he had on that roster 2yrs ago. I hope he can adapt to some of the players we have hear who make the effort to defend. Like KP and Lopez for the most part.

This can be a home run signing by the Knicks of it can be another season of watching low IQ offensive players who can't hit an open jumper and bottom dwellers defensively. I guess the one thing I'm kinda bummed about is that this signing took away the aurora Me and others had about Phil taking over and establishing team ball, continuity and a winning culture.

That's why I have been patient with Phil despite all the boneheaded moves like Calderon. So I am hopeful that Phil and Horny do share a lot of come ground principles both offensively and defensively. If we are moving away from Phils philosophies and the triangle completely then I'm not so confident about Phil as a GM/President. When we hired him I said I would give him some leeway while he learned how to be a GM in today's nba with the assumption that his acomplishments and knowing what it takes to build a consistent winning culture would get this ship righted eventually.

Now I'm unsure if Phil is the guy to be making roster decisions that will impact the next 5yrs like maxing out over the hill players. The same kind of patchwork we've seen over the past 15yrs. I don't know if Phil plans on seeing this through now or chooses to hang it up and work for LA in some capacity. Like Walsh did when he returned to Indiana after being forced out by Dolan.

Maybe this is for the better. Maybe Hornacek can establish a winning culture like Kerr but is Mills the right GM? Will we draft a player of the caliber of Stephen Curry to run and grow with KP for the next 15yrs? Or do we go through enough decade of drafting and signing Isiah type bonehead players?

Lot of questions. We shall see. Looking forward to the pressure for some answers at least

Wow you think you have been patient? Maybe I don't read enough... I haven't heard much from you but trash since that idiot Phil resigned Melo and traded your boy Shump. But yea man... when the wins start coming in you were with Phil all along.

Yeah this is not what I have read from you on here but whatever. Glad you are there for Phil.

What did you read? Do you have anything particular in mind that I said at one point so I can try to clear it up by countering it with other things I've said?

I can't think of anything specific but I also can't think of anything positive either. If you want I can find links. Or you could link post links to some of your patient Knick/Phil posts.

In the meantime Crush since it's more current and easier to find, was my initial reaction to Phil hiring Hornacek negative towards Phil or towards the outside voices who didn't like that Phil was running triangle camp with Rambis fairly recently instead of searching for a new coach? Melo being the main culprit of course?

nixluva wrote:GUYS! THE WAR IS OVER. LOL We have a coach now and we can move on with talking about the very positive aspects of a smart coach going into the draft and free agency. I'm freakin happy and I don't want to fight anymore about unimportant things. No more Rambis FREAK OUTS!

Agreed. I admit I got totally wrapped up in being convinced Phil was just stalling in order to hire Rambis. I totally admit I was wrong about that and I'm very happy with the Hornacek hire because it shows Phil is still willing to think outside the box and not be totally hemmed in by hiring strictly from the pool of candidates who would want to run the triangle and nothing else. Here's to Hornacek and Phil moving forward and putting their best foot forward for the Knicks. I'm very excited by this hire!

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Right now we don't have the high IQ, efficient and versatile offensive players for to build a offensive like the GS, the Spurs or he old Jazz. Hopefully that changes with Hornacek. We don't have the defensive players either but if Thibs and Vogel to a lesser extent was here I'd have a hard time beilieving they would field a defensive that is at the bottom of the league.

If we are going to win with offense we are going to have to be flawless. I think you can in that way but do we have the players to play that way? We've been searching for those elusive high IQ players for damn near 15yrs. I'm cautiously optimistic that Hornacek can coach defense and. It just offense like Dantoni. Especially since he was a gritty defensive minded player. There was little defense in PHX but maybe he made the most out of what he had on that roster 2yrs ago. I hope he can adapt to some of the players we have hear who make the effort to defend. Like KP and Lopez for the most part.

This can be a home run signing by the Knicks of it can be another season of watching low IQ offensive players who can't hit an open jumper and bottom dwellers defensively. I guess the one thing I'm kinda bummed about is that this signing took away the aurora Me and others had about Phil taking over and establishing team ball, continuity and a winning culture.

That's why I have been patient with Phil despite all the boneheaded moves like Calderon. So I am hopeful that Phil and Horny do share a lot of come ground principles both offensively and defensively. If we are moving away from Phils philosophies and the triangle completely then I'm not so confident about Phil as a GM/President. When we hired him I said I would give him some leeway while he learned how to be a GM in today's nba with the assumption that his acomplishments and knowing what it takes to build a consistent winning culture would get this ship righted eventually.

Now I'm unsure if Phil is the guy to be making roster decisions that will impact the next 5yrs like maxing out over the hill players. The same kind of patchwork we've seen over the past 15yrs. I don't know if Phil plans on seeing this through now or chooses to hang it up and work for LA in some capacity. Like Walsh did when he returned to Indiana after being forced out by Dolan.

Maybe this is for the better. Maybe Hornacek can establish a winning culture like Kerr but is Mills the right GM? Will we draft a player of the caliber of Stephen Curry to run and grow with KP for the next 15yrs? Or do we go through enough decade of drafting and signing Isiah type bonehead players?

Lot of questions. We shall see. Looking forward to the pressure for some answers at least

Wow you think you have been patient? Maybe I don't read enough... I haven't heard much from you but trash since that idiot Phil resigned Melo and traded your boy Shump. But yea man... when the wins start coming in you were with Phil all along.

Yeah this is not what I have read from you on here but whatever. Glad you are there for Phil.

What did you read? Do you have anything particular in mind that I said at one point so I can try to clear it up by countering it with other things I've said?

I can't think of anything specific but I also can't think of anything positive either. If you want I can find links. Or you could link post links to some of your patient Knick/Phil posts.

In the meantime Crush since it's more current and easier to find, was my initial reaction to Phil hiring Hornacek negative towards Phil or towards the outside voices who didn't like that Phil was running triangle camp with Rambis fairly recently instead of searching for a new coach? Melo being the main culprit of course?

This?

Again I'd love to hear the reasoning behind this move. I can't seem to fathom how this makes any sense but I will pray there is a legitimate reason and plan behind Phil's thinking and not just Phil sabotaging the team because he didn't appreciate being dictated to by Melo and/or Dolan. I will pray and hope for the best

I guess it is hopeful. Not sure where Melo and Dolan fit in the discussion. I think this decision was all Phil's.

Yes we already found that out. Hornacek played for Fitzsimmons in his early days in PHX. Rambis was his teammate. This move wasn't as left field as we originally thought and most of the media still thinks. So this was a Phil move not Melo or Dolan which I am happy about.

I don't understand why saw me as being anti Phil. I'd have to assume Fish might've been referring to an instant where I was critical of Phil overall I've sided with Phil since day one. My main gripes were never with Phil. I still don't blame him for Melo's contract. I praised him for not mortaring any future assets. I wasn't on board on every trade and I wouldn't have overpaid Lopez little did I know that we'd only win 30 games. I've ackownledged that Phil didn't inherent much in terms of assets when he took the job. And I hope going forward Phil continues to stockpile assets instead of throwing max money at over the hill bandaids

gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Right now we don't have the high IQ, efficient and versatile offensive players for to build a offensive like the GS, the Spurs or he old Jazz. Hopefully that changes with Hornacek. We don't have the defensive players either but if Thibs and Vogel to a lesser extent was here I'd have a hard time beilieving they would field a defensive that is at the bottom of the league.

If we are going to win with offense we are going to have to be flawless. I think you can in that way but do we have the players to play that way? We've been searching for those elusive high IQ players for damn near 15yrs. I'm cautiously optimistic that Hornacek can coach defense and. It just offense like Dantoni. Especially since he was a gritty defensive minded player. There was little defense in PHX but maybe he made the most out of what he had on that roster 2yrs ago. I hope he can adapt to some of the players we have hear who make the effort to defend. Like KP and Lopez for the most part.

This can be a home run signing by the Knicks of it can be another season of watching low IQ offensive players who can't hit an open jumper and bottom dwellers defensively. I guess the one thing I'm kinda bummed about is that this signing took away the aurora Me and others had about Phil taking over and establishing team ball, continuity and a winning culture.

That's why I have been patient with Phil despite all the boneheaded moves like Calderon. So I am hopeful that Phil and Horny do share a lot of come ground principles both offensively and defensively. If we are moving away from Phils philosophies and the triangle completely then I'm not so confident about Phil as a GM/President. When we hired him I said I would give him some leeway while he learned how to be a GM in today's nba with the assumption that his acomplishments and knowing what it takes to build a consistent winning culture would get this ship righted eventually.

Now I'm unsure if Phil is the guy to be making roster decisions that will impact the next 5yrs like maxing out over the hill players. The same kind of patchwork we've seen over the past 15yrs. I don't know if Phil plans on seeing this through now or chooses to hang it up and work for LA in some capacity. Like Walsh did when he returned to Indiana after being forced out by Dolan.

Maybe this is for the better. Maybe Hornacek can establish a winning culture like Kerr but is Mills the right GM? Will we draft a player of the caliber of Stephen Curry to run and grow with KP for the next 15yrs? Or do we go through enough decade of drafting and signing Isiah type bonehead players?

Lot of questions. We shall see. Looking forward to the pressure for some answers at least

Wow you think you have been patient? Maybe I don't read enough... I haven't heard much from you but trash since that idiot Phil resigned Melo and traded your boy Shump. But yea man... when the wins start coming in you were with Phil all along.

Yeah this is not what I have read from you on here but whatever. Glad you are there for Phil.

What did you read? Do you have anything particular in mind that I said at one point so I can try to clear it up by countering it with other things I've said?

I can't think of anything specific but I also can't think of anything positive either. If you want I can find links. Or you could link post links to some of your patient Knick/Phil posts.

In the meantime Crush since it's more current and easier to find, was my initial reaction to Phil hiring Hornacek negative towards Phil or towards the outside voices who didn't like that Phil was running triangle camp with Rambis fairly recently instead of searching for a new coach? Melo being the main culprit of course?

This?

Again I'd love to hear the reasoning behind this move. I can't seem to fathom how this makes any sense but I will pray there is a legitimate reason and plan behind Phil's thinking and not just Phil sabotaging the team because he didn't appreciate being dictated to by Melo and/or Dolan. I will pray and hope for the best

I guess it is hopeful. Not sure where Melo and Dolan fit in the discussion. I think this decision was all Phil's.

Yes we already found that out. Hornacek played for Fitzsimmons in his early days in PHX. Rambis was his teammate. This move wasn't as left field as we originally thought and most of the media still thinks. So this was a Phil move not Melo or Dolan which I am happy about.

I don't understand why saw me as being anti Phil. I'd have to assume Fish might've been referring to an instant where I was critical of Phil overall I've sided with Phil since day one. My main gripes were never with Phil. I still don't blame him for Melo's contract. I praised him for not mortaring any future assets. I wasn't on board on every trade and I wouldn't have overpaid Lopez little did I know that we'd only win 30 games. I've ackownledged that Phil didn't inherent much in terms of assets when he took the job. And I hope going forward Phil continues to stockpile assets instead of throwing max money at over the hill bandaids

Chandler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:GUYS! THE WAR IS OVER. LOL We have a coach now and we can move on with talking about the very positive aspects of a smart coach going into the draft and free agency. I'm freakin happy and I don't want to fight anymore about unimportant things. No more Rambis FREAK OUTS!

Agreed. I admit I got totally wrapped up in being convinced Phil was just stalling in order to hire Rambis. I totally admit I was wrong about that and I'm very happy with the Hornacek hire because it shows Phil is still willing to think outside the box and not be totally hemmed in by hiring strictly from the pool of candidates who would want to run the triangle and nothing else. Here's to Hornacek and Phil moving forward and putting their best foot forward for the Knicks. I'm very excited by this hire!

Yeah man the more people think about they should be PUMPED.

I was listening to SAS, Kay and Lagreca and they were all sourpuss about it and questioning Phil's decision making. I felt this was just not necessary. Their main gripe is that they felt Thibs should've been called. That's fine but clearly Phil didn't want Thibs. For whatever reason, if Phil didn't like the guy that's all there is to it.

I'm pumped and ready for the Draft and Free Agency. This is gonna be fun.

why is there such a love affair over Thibs? Never understood it. his team was stacked. wore out his players and his welcome. time will tell but the fact that minny wanted him and he accepted is a big flag to me that either (a) no one else really wanted him or (b) he was obnoxious wanting full autonomy and tons of cash [why? because he won with Rose and Noah (DPOY) -- sheesh]

With Jeff on board we have a new voice and some new ideas coming on board. If Phil trusts him then that's even better. It opens up new possibilities. So in the end I'm good with this move. People need to go and look at games Jeff coached in his 1st yr in PHX before the front office ruined things. If he can bring some of that to this team I'm all in.

Obviously I wasn't expecting Jeff. I thought it was gonna be Vogel. After thinking about this, I can see Phil being high on Jeff and his BBIQ. Jeff has the experience of playing which adds a nuance IMO. It's gonna be interesting cuz we don't know what it's gonna be like exactly.

foosballnick wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:Alan Hahn said on ESPN Radio that Jeff was actually Phil's 1st choice and his 1st call but that they couldn't actually get together until last Monday. Also said that Phil was visiting his ailing brother, which is the so called vacation the media was talking about. Apparently tho Jeff was not some afterthought, but rather Phil had zeroed in on him before the Blatt and Vogel interviews. They just happened before he met with Jeff but that wasn't indicative of where he put them on his list of wants.

Wow. Thanks for posting this. Also, thanks for including the stuff about Phil's brother. Hope he is healthy and maybe one or two of the guys that have been so relentless in their negative coverage and so wrong have some self reflection.

I wanted to add to this. Today on the Hahn & Humpty show......Hahn also indicated that Melo was not involved in this decision and the organization has moved away from the thought process of Melo as a "primary piece".....to Melo is a "piece" of the roster. Don't know if this sets the stage for a potential Melo trade, however Hahn indicated that Melo has repeatedly indicated he is committed to NY.

I don't think Melo wants to leave. He's in a great spot. He can stay and be part of the transition to the KP Era! As the team improves his load will lighten. If he wants to go for a Title next year it's up to him! He has the NTC so just have his agent look for a deal and I'm pretty sure Phil would make it happen like yesterday. It's all pretty simple. This is no longer about Melo. I'm glad to have him but if he isn't willing to get on board well...

nixluva wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:Alan Hahn said on ESPN Radio that Jeff was actually Phil's 1st choice and his 1st call but that they couldn't actually get together until last Monday. Also said that Phil was visiting his ailing brother, which is the so called vacation the media was talking about. Apparently tho Jeff was not some afterthought, but rather Phil had zeroed in on him before the Blatt and Vogel interviews. They just happened before he met with Jeff but that wasn't indicative of where he put them on his list of wants.

Wow. Thanks for posting this. Also, thanks for including the stuff about Phil's brother. Hope he is healthy and maybe one or two of the guys that have been so relentless in their negative coverage and so wrong have some self reflection.

I wanted to add to this. Today on the Hahn & Humpty show......Hahn also indicated that Melo was not involved in this decision and the organization has moved away from the thought process of Melo as a "primary piece".....to Melo is a "piece" of the roster. Don't know if this sets the stage for a potential Melo trade, however Hahn indicated that Melo has repeatedly indicated he is committed to NY.

I don't think Melo wants to leave. He's in a great spot. He can stay and be part of the transition to the KP Era! As the team improves his load will lighten. If he wants to go for a Title next year it's up to him! He has the NTC so just have his agent look for a deal and I'm pretty sure Phil would make it happen like yesterday. It's all pretty simple. This is no longer about Melo. I'm glad to have him but if he isn't willing to get on board well...

I think Melo is gonna be happy with the Hornacek hire. He wanted a guy that holds his players accountable and can communicate well with his players and he's gonna be able to shoot more in Hornacek's offense and we all know he loves to shoot.

nyk4ever wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Right now we don't have the high IQ, efficient and versatile offensive players for to build a offensive like the GS, the Spurs or he old Jazz. Hopefully that changes with Hornacek. We don't have the defensive players either but if Thibs and Vogel to a lesser extent was here I'd have a hard time beilieving they would field a defensive that is at the bottom of the league.

If we are going to win with offense we are going to have to be flawless. I think you can in that way but do we have the players to play that way? We've been searching for those elusive high IQ players for damn near 15yrs. I'm cautiously optimistic that Hornacek can coach defense and. It just offense like Dantoni. Especially since he was a gritty defensive minded player. There was little defense in PHX but maybe he made the most out of what he had on that roster 2yrs ago. I hope he can adapt to some of the players we have hear who make the effort to defend. Like KP and Lopez for the most part.

This can be a home run signing by the Knicks of it can be another season of watching low IQ offensive players who can't hit an open jumper and bottom dwellers defensively. I guess the one thing I'm kinda bummed about is that this signing took away the aurora Me and others had about Phil taking over and establishing team ball, continuity and a winning culture.

That's why I have been patient with Phil despite all the boneheaded moves like Calderon. So I am hopeful that Phil and Horny do share a lot of come ground principles both offensively and defensively. If we are moving away from Phils philosophies and the triangle completely then I'm not so confident about Phil as a GM/President. When we hired him I said I would give him some leeway while he learned how to be a GM in today's nba with the assumption that his acomplishments and knowing what it takes to build a consistent winning culture would get this ship righted eventually.

Now I'm unsure if Phil is the guy to be making roster decisions that will impact the next 5yrs like maxing out over the hill players. The same kind of patchwork we've seen over the past 15yrs. I don't know if Phil plans on seeing this through now or chooses to hang it up and work for LA in some capacity. Like Walsh did when he returned to Indiana after being forced out by Dolan.

Maybe this is for the better. Maybe Hornacek can establish a winning culture like Kerr but is Mills the right GM? Will we draft a player of the caliber of Stephen Curry to run and grow with KP for the next 15yrs? Or do we go through enough decade of drafting and signing Isiah type bonehead players?

Lot of questions. We shall see. Looking forward to the pressure for some answers at least

Wow you think you have been patient? Maybe I don't read enough... I haven't heard much from you but trash since that idiot Phil resigned Melo and traded your boy Shump. But yea man... when the wins start coming in you were with Phil all along.

Yeah this is not what I have read from you on here but whatever. Glad you are there for Phil.

What did you read? Do you have anything particular in mind that I said at one point so I can try to clear it up by countering it with other things I've said?

I can't think of anything specific but I also can't think of anything positive either. If you want I can find links. Or you could link post links to some of your patient Knick/Phil posts.

In the meantime Crush since it's more current and easier to find, was my initial reaction to Phil hiring Hornacek negative towards Phil or towards the outside voices who didn't like that Phil was running triangle camp with Rambis fairly recently instead of searching for a new coach? Melo being the main culprit of course?

This?

Again I'd love to hear the reasoning behind this move. I can't seem to fathom how this makes any sense but I will pray there is a legitimate reason and plan behind Phil's thinking and not just Phil sabotaging the team because he didn't appreciate being dictated to by Melo and/or Dolan. I will pray and hope for the best

I guess it is hopeful. Not sure where Melo and Dolan fit in the discussion. I think this decision was all Phil's.

Yes we already found that out. Hornacek played for Fitzsimmons in his early days in PHX. Rambis was his teammate. This move wasn't as left field as we originally thought and most of the media still thinks. So this was a Phil move not Melo or Dolan which I am happy about.

I don't understand why saw me as being anti Phil. I'd have to assume Fish might've been referring to an instant where I was critical of Phil overall I've sided with Phil since day one. My main gripes were never with Phil. I still don't blame him for Melo's contract. I praised him for not mortaring any future assets. I wasn't on board on every trade and I wouldn't have overpaid Lopez little did I know that we'd only win 30 games. I've ackownledged that Phil didn't inherent much in terms of assets when he took the job. And I hope going forward Phil continues to stockpile assets instead of throwing max money at over the hill bandaids

bro you've been extremely negative. its not like it matters, but let's call a spade a spade. crzy owned up to his last few weeks on here, you should too. don't pull a francessa and claim you weren't asleep lol

This wasn't about me being negative. Damn right I'm negative. Been a long time this since this team has accomplished anything positive.

This is about the misconception that I've been negative towards Phil when in reality it's been quite the opposite. There are a myriad of reasons why I'm negative. Phil is no where near the top of that list

Highs:
1. GNR reuniting which to me that's the equivalent of the Knicks winning a championship
2. Flying to Vegas to see GNR's first 2 reunion shows
3. Misfits reuniting

Lows in order from most recent:
1. Getting hit by a car despite crossing in the crosswalk with the right of way and receiving a ridiculous jaywalking ticket because I was too out of it to give an accurate recollection of what happened to the worthless cop as I laid in the ambulance on a stretcher with a neck brace. Head split open. Fortunately all ct scans were negative but now I got all the legal **** to deal with.

2. Getting rear ended by a drunk driver who then proceeded to assault me in Jersey City. Another fine example of lazy police work. Report only mentioned the accident. Nothing about the assault despite 50 eye witnesses about 20 JC & Port Authority cops on the scene. Cameras everywhere being that it happen near the Newport Path.

3. Mom suffers a heart attack 6yrs after the stoke. Spends 5months in the hospital and rehab. Doesn't take her first steps without help til month 4. Put everything into perspective for me that's for sure. She's home and doing great now. Stronger every day. Being home definitely speeds up the rehab. Gotta credit the surgeon. Just amazing I'm forever in debt to him. 2 days 13 hours of wait, agony followed by extreme fear and ending in exhilaration.

4. Father been living with prostrate cancer was suppose to have surgery to retify. Was scheduled to get further tests done to make sure the cancer didn't spread to bones and organs. I never found out what the results were. Next thing you know he went to Brazil. It's been over 3yrs and I'm afraid he's resigned to the illness. If you saw the new Rocky then you know what scene hit home for me. Doctor told him when going through the options who knows he may live another 10yrs without doing anything. My dad in his way laughed and told him 10yrs? Heck I'll take it. Unfortunately I'm starting to get the feeling he wasn't joking.

Anyway no one said life was easy. Just trying all I possibly can to make thinks right again

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Unfortunately the lows kind of outweighed the highs

Highs:
1. GNR reuniting
2. Flying to Vegas to see GNR's first 2 reunion shows
3. Misfits reuniting

Lows in order from most recent:
1. Getting hit by a car despite crossing in the crosswalk and receiving a ridiculous jaywalking ticket because I was too out of it to give an accurate recollection of what happened to the worthless cop as I laid in the ambulance on a stretcher with a neck brace. Head split open. Fortunately all ct scans were negative but now I got all the legal **** to deal with.

2. Getting rear ended by a drunk driver who then proceeded to assault me in Jersey City. Another fine example of lazy police work. Report only mentioned the accident. Nothing about the assault despite 50 eye witnesses about 20 JC & Port Authority cops on the scene. Cameras everywhere being that it happen near the Newport Path.

3. Mom suffers a heart attack 6yrs after the stoke. Spends 5months in the hospital and rehab. Doesn't take her first steps without help til month 4. Put everything into perspective for me that's for sure. She's home and doing great now. Stringer every day. Being home definitely speeds up the rehab. Gotta credit the surgeon. Just amazing I'm forever in debt to him. 2 days 13 hours of wait, agony followed by extreme fear and exhilaration.

4. Father been living with prostrate cancer was suppose to have surgery to retify. Was scheduled to get further tests done to make sure the cancer didn't spread to bones and organs. I never found out what the results were. Next thing you know he went back to Brazil. It's been over 3yrs and I'm afraid he's resigned to the illness. If you saw the new Rocky then you know what scene hit home for me. Doctor told him when going through the options who knows he may live another 10yrs without doing anything. My dad in his way laughed and told him 10yrs? Heck I'll take it. Unfortunately I'm starting to get the feeling he wasn't joking.

Anyway no one said life was easy. Just trying all I possibly can to make thinks right again

Sorry to hear all of this. It sounds awful. Cancer is different for everybody but if it is any help my dad had surgery for prostate cancer 8 years ago. He had to have a surgery for incontinence but otherwise has been healthy. Recently had to start getting a hormone shot but as you said I will take it. Man what a horrible year. Hopefully your luck gets better.

Thanks Crush. Yea pretty sure that's the case with my dad