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newyorker4ever
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2/7/2016  2:10 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Newyork4ever, how many games thus far you think we lost because of poor coaching????? Be honest

I'll tell you what, convince of how any loss we've had was because of coaching and not because of missed shots or bad defense or the players not giving their best or anything to do with something other than coaching and then i'll be able to honestly answer your question. Now i'm not talking about you just assuming anything as to why it was coaching, so i need you to give facts on how it was because of coaching and not something else. I'll wait

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2/7/2016  2:11 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
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SocraticBallin22 wrote:Knicks have numbers on the fast break and slow it up so they could take a jump shot. In essence, what's wrong with this team as a whole.

AA isn't that fast or athletic and MELO isn't in any condition to really explode either. We have to get more push from Gallo, Jerian and DWILL. This isn't really a fast or athletic line up.

Im sorry, did i missed something, because we played even slower when those 3 were in..look, if your not pounding it in your teams head and running consistently in practice..

You think they aren't instructing these players to push the ball and play with energy?

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2/7/2016  2:11 PM
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Chandler wrote:
mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

GTOH

STOP TALKING NONSENSE!!!

Dont believe Fisher has lost the team, but from time to time don't understand the decisions he makes.

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2/7/2016  2:13 PM
nixluva wrote:
Chandler wrote:
mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

What's w the anger? People can't have opinions?

Fwiw I think it's a real concern. Good players get tired of losing. And if they don't get tired of losing you don't want them.

This team needs some wins.

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2/7/2016  2:14 PM
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Chandler wrote:
mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

GTOH

STOP TALKING NONSENSE!!!

we have to get away from this stupid (side) triangle.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
newyorker4ever
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2/7/2016  2:14 PM
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Knicks1969 wrote:Damn we r such a poorly coached team!!!!! The game has changed so much and as a coach if you are not willing to try new stuff, you won't succeed.

This is so stupid. All year long he's been trying different lineups that haven't worked and you went crazy about it and now you're saying he needs to try new stuff. WTF are you talking about???

New line ups...lol

Dude he is talking about a new statergy, a tweak in the system..Thats the problem, he's running the same sht with different players

So he's running his system with all of our players......isn't that what he's supposed to be doing?? I don't get it. Are you saying he should stop running his system and run another system?? How can these guys learn the system that Phil and Fisher want to run if they don't run it?? Again i don't get it so please explain?? I can't wait for this one.

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2/7/2016  2:14 PM
crzymdups wrote:

good morning to him. This was obvious from day one.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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2/7/2016  2:15 PM
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:

good morning to him. This was obvious from day one.

this isn't the first time he's mentioned it. just an observation.

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2/7/2016  2:15 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Chandler wrote:
mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

GTOH

STOP TALKING NONSENSE!!!

Dont believe Fisher has lost the team, but from time to time don't understand the decisions he makes.

That's fair! He doesn't always make the best decisions but also most of our issues are player related. MELO and KP missing shots isn't about coaching. Guys not being athletic or quick isn't about coaching. Fish has a VERY slim margin for error. If he had better talent at key spots he looks like a better coach! This is just the way it works.

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2/7/2016  2:16 PM
Chandler wrote:Nice run at end of quarter. Seems to be a recent pattern. Sluggish start. Spot other team 10-20 points and then charge back

Hopefully they can pull it off this time

because they start of running the stupid triangle exclusively and when the sh1t don't work and we are in a whole we go to PnR.

Look for the same stupid sh1t to start the 3rd.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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2/7/2016  2:16 PM
This team just needs to get to the all-star break. Try to win this game, try like hell to win the Washington game. Then they have almost two weeks off to get healthy and practice. They'll look much better after the break.
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2/7/2016  2:19 PM
hahaha its so obvious that we cant play triangle all the time that even knicks analysts are now saying we cant completely abandon the triangle but....
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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2/7/2016  2:19 PM
Chandler wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Chandler wrote:
mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

What's w the anger? People can't have opinions?

Fwiw I think it's a real concern. Good players get tired of losing. And if they don't get tired of losing you don't want them.

This team needs some wins.

This team needs to get healthy first off. We don't have enough depth to overcome MELO being out or rusty and also missing LT. this losing came after the injuries hit. It's knocked off the delicate balance and chemistry they had developed. They need a stretch where they're whole and can get back the chemistry.

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2/7/2016  2:20 PM
Al:

"team really means to run much more PnR and much less triangle"

Wally:

"Yes. They really do. The triangle seems to get them a lot of mid range shots that the other teams want them to take"

Wally and Al should STFU and learn some triangle sh1t before they talk ISH!!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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2/7/2016  2:21 PM
mreinman wrote:
Chandler wrote:Nice run at end of quarter. Seems to be a recent pattern. Sluggish start. Spot other team 10-20 points and then charge back

Hopefully they can pull it off this time

because they start of running the stupid triangle exclusively and when the sh1t don't work and we are in a whole we go to PnR.

Look for the same stupid sh1t to start the 3rd.

tadaaa

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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2/7/2016  2:21 PM
nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Knicks have numbers on the fast break and slow it up so they could take a jump shot. In essence, what's wrong with this team as a whole.

AA isn't that fast or athletic and MELO isn't in any condition to really explode either. We have to get more push from Gallo, Jerian and DWILL. This isn't really a fast or athletic line up.

Im sorry, did i missed something, because we played even slower when those 3 were in..look, if your not pounding it in your teams head and running consistently in practice..

You think they aren't instructing these players to push the ball and play with energy?

Fisher has said that he tells them to run and pick up the pace all the time but they just don't do it. If the players don't play like they're asked/told to play then how is that on Fisher?? I just don't get it.

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2/7/2016  2:22 PM
nixluva wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Chandler wrote:
mreinman wrote:has fisher lost this team?

My concern exactly

BULL ISH!!!

GTOH

STOP TALKING NONSENSE!!!

Dont believe Fisher has lost the team, but from time to time don't understand the decisions he makes.

That's fair! He doesn't always make the best decisions but also most of our issues are player related. MELO and KP missing shots isn't about coaching. Guys not being athletic or quick isn't about coaching. Fish has a VERY slim margin for error. If he had better talent at key spots he looks like a better coach! This is just the way it works.

I agree with the thrust of your argument, but I also believe Fisher's unpredictable substitutions are making things more difficult than need be. We probably disagree on how big an effect its having on the outcome, but Im pretty sure we can agree that there is room for improvement from both the coaching staff and the players.

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2/7/2016  2:23 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Knicks have numbers on the fast break and slow it up so they could take a jump shot. In essence, what's wrong with this team as a whole.

AA isn't that fast or athletic and MELO isn't in any condition to really explode either. We have to get more push from Gallo, Jerian and DWILL. This isn't really a fast or athletic line up.

Im sorry, did i missed something, because we played even slower when those 3 were in..look, if your not pounding it in your teams head and running consistently in practice..

You think they aren't instructing these players to push the ball and play with energy?

Fisher has said that he tells them to run and pick up the pace all the time but they just don't do it. If the players don't play like they're asked/told to play then how is that on Fisher?? I just don't get it.

so if the players that phil got are not listening to fisher then so be it.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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2/7/2016  2:23 PM
crzymdups wrote:This team just needs to get to the all-star break. Try to win this game, try like hell to win the Washington game. Then they have almost two weeks off to get healthy and practice. They'll look much better after the break.

I agree!!! The problems all started with the rash of injuries and fatigue.

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