Rookie wrote:

Nalod wrote:Seems like "My name is Wrot" is not that much in demand or he is waiting. Perhaps a few of you are fixated on his talent and assume he can strut in and produce.

Sasha is on the bench cuz he is a triangle guy and not gunning for stats when he is in. He was bought in to ride the pine and fill in if someone gets hurt. Wroten is a good talent but he is not starting and not displacing Gallo and Grant. This team has chemistry building. This is not a baseball team where you can insert talent and extract at the same time.

Curious why he was cut? Attitude?

We got Trice and Jimmer doing very well in the Dleague and paying their dues. Wroten wants to be a knick he gotta shoot real good.

He wasn't playing well when he came back from his injury. He was on a minutes restriction and playing as a bench reserve. Maybe they saw enough to see he wouldn't be getting back into the SL. Ish happens. I'm going to guess he still isn't fully recovered from the ACL tear.

Was that a accidental pun??

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CrushAlot wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/TWroten_LOE/status/688918613395423232

Wroten's response to a fan asking who he is signing with.

He tweeted "Tape" twice but deleted it right away. I think he wants to be here but Phil has got to want to sign him.

It could easily look like we're gonna sign him cause we're all wondering why Phil hasn't signed anyone to a 10 day contract yet cause we have our 15th spot open and a lot of us are wondering why nobody has signed Wroten yet so it seems like Phil and Wroten are both waiting for something. This guy could fill a big hole we have with his athleticism and his getting to the basket so i would love for Phil to bring him in. It can't hurt anything so why not.

It's so curious what Phil could be up to. It's obvious by his inaction that he's waiting on something. I would assume it's a technical timeframe. Whatever it is I do expect that he will eventually make a move cuz it only makes sense given the needs and makeup of the roster at present. Whoever he actually settles on it would seem most likely that it would be a guard he brings in so we'll see what he decides, but it's starting to make me anxious. With every game that we have issues with our guard spot it just makes me want to see it addressed. The Celtics and Sixers games were hard to sit thru and watch us struggle to deal with their quick guards.

Which guard are you sitting if you think Phil is going to make a more. And which guard is going to pick up the offense quickly enough to warrant giving him a shot?

Well all of our guards on this team have something bad about their game so i think Fish could find some minutes for him when he gets adjusted to the system.

No I am asking for a concrete scenario and a concrete PG who you would pick up that can learn the system in a quick enough time period to warrant signing and playing and also benching another of the Knicks' guards. Who is out there at PG that is heady enough or talented enough that maybe you would pick up and who is realistically good enough in the Triangle and then who would you sit?

You kind of gave a non answer.

That's a great question. I don't think there's a clear answer. It's kind of hard to know from the outside, but what I think Phil is looking or at least hoping for is a similar transition that we saw with Shved. It didn't take him too long to gain a comfort level. Of course things are different now since I doubt any guard would come in and go as nuts as Shved did, but then they don't have to.

The thing I'm looking at is a Guard and not necessarily a Pure PG. A Guard that has a natural ability to see the seems and lanes but also can make the pass to open teammates. In this offense you don't really need a Pure PG. Tho it is important to have a PG who can get the offense setup as we see Jose doing. I personally don't think it's as hard as some make it out to be. I don't know why Jerian has so much trouble with it at times. Sometimes he gets a huge brain freeze and looks paralyzed.

So for me I see a kid like Wroten being able to find some success. He is a talented Combo guard and really isn't so much looking to run an offense as he is looking to attack which IMO is one of the biggest things you need in this offense. You want early attack and if nothing is there then you can run the sets and if the ball works it's way back to a kid like Wroten in the flow there will be TONS of Give n Go touches for him that with his speed and athletic ability he can translate into easy scores.

We don't have one of these at Guard. I see great potential if he's developed properly.
Look at how Wroten attacks off Give n Go's in this video.

The speed and athletic ability and his natural desire to push the ball and run. He's got just enough passing ability.

DWill has a lot of this but he's not a guard. Wroten IMO could really BOOST this offense a lot, plus still has size for matching up with a SG, so he'd help on D in that sense. Wroten should find success with just a few RoLo or KP picks, Pushing the ball and looking for Early Offense, Give n Go's and the defense having to pay so much attention to Melo and KP. IMO Wroten has the same kind of size with even more explosive quickness and athletic ability as Phil had with Ron Harper! A SG, Not a PG who played Pseudo PG for Phil. And we saw that with Shved last year as well.

I've never seen Wroten play. He shoots about as good as Grant does and Grant is playing scared right now. So, you are introducing a guy who can't shoot. I guess you sit Grant and stunt his growth some? More DNPs?

What's his D like? And is this a system guy?

If Wroten wants to play on the Knicks, why doesn't he join WestChester for a couple of weeks to learn Triangle and hope he gets called to the show?

Again great questions.

Wroten isn't a strong shooter but I wouldn't worry about Wroten's shooting too much. He's in a entirely different class from Jerian in terms of his handle and quickness. He gets to the rim with so much frequency that it's almost absurd. He's a weapon in transition even on made baskets. I also wouldn't worry too much about Jerian's development. Technically at 6-6 Wroten can play PG, SG or SF in a small ball lineup. There are ways to squeeze him in if you cut Jose's minutes. Jerian isn't likely to earn a lot of minutes this year IMO. He's gonna need a summer to work on his game anyway IMO.

Wroten on D I think will be fine. He should improve with work and learning how to defend in this system. He's got the agility and quickness to excel if he commits to it.

As for him being a system guy. I think he's in the Mold of Shved and DWill. He just needs to learn how to use his talent in the system which shouldn't be too hard for him since much of the guard role is simple passes and cuts.

As for why he's not in Westchester, I think Phil may want it that way. Just kind of keep him out of other team's eyes. I could be wrong but that's what I think is going on. Imagine if he went to the W Knicks and put up some gaudy numbers and drew attention from other teams? I think they could be hiding Wroten and waiting for some kind of deal or something to move other players. I have no proof of course, but it seems like a logical assumption.

It's possible that the Knicks are talking to Wroten and showing him film and having him do some scrimmage to get a basic notion of the offense.

I really like what you said about Phil not wanting him on our d-league team to hide his talents from other teams and something i've been saying about Phil maybe having something in the works or is waiting for something to happen before making any decisions on Wroten. There's obviously no proof to this and it's just a, wait for it Martin.......ASSUMPTION but it just seems a little funny that a guy with the talent of Wroten is still sitting out there and we have that 15th spot sitting open which nobody can figure out why so it's just putting two and two together.

Yeah it's just a bit too conspicuous for me! Even on a 10 day it would make too much sense to just bring him in and take a look. At the least you could see one of our D League guards! So Phil is up to something IMO.

newyorker4ever wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Rookie wrote:

Nalod wrote:Seems like "My name is Wrot" is not that much in demand or he is waiting. Perhaps a few of you are fixated on his talent and assume he can strut in and produce.

Sasha is on the bench cuz he is a triangle guy and not gunning for stats when he is in. He was bought in to ride the pine and fill in if someone gets hurt. Wroten is a good talent but he is not starting and not displacing Gallo and Grant. This team has chemistry building. This is not a baseball team where you can insert talent and extract at the same time.

Curious why he was cut? Attitude?

We got Trice and Jimmer doing very well in the Dleague and paying their dues. Wroten wants to be a knick he gotta shoot real good.

He wasn't playing well when he came back from his injury. He was on a minutes restriction and playing as a bench reserve. Maybe they saw enough to see he wouldn't be getting back into the SL. Ish happens. I'm going to guess he still isn't fully recovered from the ACL tear.

Was that a accidental pun??

hahaha

It just fits too perfectly for it to be accidental but i think it was. Hahahahaha

i.am.a.word.Smith

We have shooters. Calderón is doing a good job at that. We need a guard that can get to the basket. It adds a dimension to the team.

fitzfarm wrote:There is no way ether jimmer or tony are worse then Jose on defense

From a physical gifts stand point there's no reason Wroten shouldn't be able to become a solid defender. He's been bad so far. I think the coach and players have to hold him accountable.

mreinman wrote:please sign wroten so this thread can go away

you know Briggs would just bump it either way