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mreinman
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12/10/2015  11:47 PM
I don't like Afflalo and his passing is plain brutal but he is the only guy who runs his balls off every night.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/10/2015  11:47 PM
Oh god Isiah is in the studio. We don't have a chance in this game.
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12/10/2015  11:48 PM
They play much better with KP at 5 and Melo at 4. Fish needs to demand that they go to KP more. Bench them if they don't do it.
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12/10/2015  11:49 PM
knicks1248 wrote:he passed a 7 footer the ball by his hip on a fast break...geezus

That was sooooo frustrating to see! SMH
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12/10/2015  11:49 PM
mreinman wrote:the knicks are so not used to running.

Barkley made a great point. The knicks don't run down the court, they jog! You can't play fast when you jog.

They were playing faster late with Melo bringing the ball up which is troubling(Calderon old). Barkley is right though but I think Webber pointed out that's it's easier to run when you play with a real of that runs.
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12/10/2015  11:49 PM
Knicks look clueless on how to score, or get in da paint,no offense rythym,its just like they're just looking for anywhere descent enough to throw up a shot and cross their fingures
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12/10/2015  11:50 PM
nixluva wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:KP got fouled on one, bad pass on the other and missed a gimme FT line shot.
Mainly they went with him at 5, Melo at 4 and all of a sudden they got better play on BOTH ends.
Closed the half strong with that lineup.

The coaches have to realize that RLO can only be used as a token starter (first 7 min max of each half) and the rest of the time he's an insurance for Porzingis at the 5 spot in the case on FT or injury.

Hope we see more of that in the 2nd half. We also need our guards to be FAR more aggressive in attacking the D and not just being Traffic Cones out there. Too much RoLo handling the ball and not enough of the guards calling for A screen and going with a 2 man.


We need to get more PNR with Grant and KP.
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12/10/2015  11:51 PM
letitbknown wrote:Knicks look clueless on how to score, or get in da paint,no offense rythym,its just like they're just looking for anywhere descent enough to throw up a shot and cross their fingures

They started getting something going at the end of the half but still not always good execution. They better start featuring KP more.
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12/10/2015  11:51 PM
crzymdups wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
mreinman wrote:did anyone see LT wave off an open KP from 3 so that he can throw a stupid dump into Melo?

Yeah...thought it was strange.

KP did not have a ton of space, but to wave him awau like that seemed odd.

Something weird is going on with the team and KP. You can see it on the flo


You mean run the triangle. Yes, we see it every play. This system would probably be good for pee wee basketball. That way all the parents are happy that their kids all touch the ball equaly. Or at the YMCA, so all the fat slow old guys don't feel left out. Why are we the only team in the NBA that runs this? Do we really want everyone touching and shooting the ball on offense?

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12/10/2015  11:51 PM
They didn't run a single play for KP. Waved him off several times. Fisher left Lopez in and didn't try to exploit KP being guarded by Casspi. I don't know what offense the Knicks are attempting to run. Fisher is in over his head. I'd rather have Rambis running things.
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12/10/2015  11:51 PM
TPercy wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:KP got fouled on one, bad pass on the other and missed a gimme FT line shot.
Mainly they went with him at 5, Melo at 4 and all of a sudden they got better play on BOTH ends.
Closed the half strong with that lineup.

The coaches have to realize that RLO can only be used as a token starter (first 7 min max of each half) and the rest of the time he's an insurance for Porzingis at the 5 spot in the case on FT or injury.

Hope we see more of that in the 2nd half. We also need our guards to be FAR more aggressive in attacking the D and not just being Traffic Cones out there. Too much RoLo handling the ball and not enough of the guards calling for A screen and going with a 2 man.


We need to get more PNR with Grant and KP.

I can't believe we haven't seen that a TON already this season!!! SMDH
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12/10/2015  11:51 PM
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I do need to add that Melo needs to stop throwing it into Lopez though.

its their fukking designed offense!


It is what I have been saying man there is 0 excuse for us to EVER rely our role players to score outside of the flow of the offense. 0 whatsoever.

I never saw longley, Cartwright, Perdue, Wellington?, and etc take those dumb hooks. You can include Rodman too, they new they were ball movers not scorers.
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12/10/2015  11:52 PM
TPercy wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:KP got fouled on one, bad pass on the other and missed a gimme FT line shot.
Mainly they went with him at 5, Melo at 4 and all of a sudden they got better play on BOTH ends.
Closed the half strong with that lineup.

The coaches have to realize that RLO can only be used as a token starter (first 7 min max of each half) and the rest of the time he's an insurance for Porzingis at the 5 spot in the case on FT or injury.

Hope we see more of that in the 2nd half. We also need our guards to be FAR more aggressive in attacking the D and not just being Traffic Cones out there. Too much RoLo handling the ball and not enough of the guards calling for A screen and going with a 2 man.


We need to get more PNR with Grant and KP.

Grant cannot play with KP right now as primary options. Way too many mistakes.

Grant right now is playing terrible.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/10/2015  11:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2015  11:53 PM
Fish needs to tell them that only KP or Melo get the ball unless wide open.

O'Quinn needs to play instead of Lopez.

The second unit needs to be allowed to run wild. Even use Early.

Come on Fish. Shake the team up.
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12/10/2015  11:52 PM
Man we need a PG badly
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/10/2015  11:55 PM
Maybe we should consider trading to get Rose from Chi; or better yet, offer Rondo a boat load of money
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/10/2015  11:56 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Man we need a PG badly

So he can be told to feed RoLo in the post and run the Triangle. Now we know the real reason no one wants to come to NY.

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12/10/2015  11:56 PM
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:KP got fouled on one, bad pass on the other and missed a gimme FT line shot.
Mainly they went with him at 5, Melo at 4 and all of a sudden they got better play on BOTH ends.
Closed the half strong with that lineup.

The coaches have to realize that RLO can only be used as a token starter (first 7 min max of each half) and the rest of the time he's an insurance for Porzingis at the 5 spot in the case on FT or injury.

Hope we see more of that in the 2nd half. We also need our guards to be FAR more aggressive in attacking the D and not just being Traffic Cones out there. Too much RoLo handling the ball and not enough of the guards calling for A screen and going with a 2 man.


We need to get more PNR with Grant and KP.

Grant cannot play with KP right now as primary options. Way too many mistakes.

Grant right now is playing terrible.

Disagree! Grant can run a PnR in his sleep! Early in the season Gallo n Grant were playing less strict Triangle and more open ball. Don't know why they went away from that.
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12/10/2015  11:57 PM
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:KP got fouled on one, bad pass on the other and missed a gimme FT line shot.
Mainly they went with him at 5, Melo at 4 and all of a sudden they got better play on BOTH ends.
Closed the half strong with that lineup.

The coaches have to realize that RLO can only be used as a token starter (first 7 min max of each half) and the rest of the time he's an insurance for Porzingis at the 5 spot in the case on FT or injury.

Hope we see more of that in the 2nd half. We also need our guards to be FAR more aggressive in attacking the D and not just being Traffic Cones out there. Too much RoLo handling the ball and not enough of the guards calling for A screen and going with a 2 man.


We need to get more PNR with Grant and KP.

Grant cannot play with KP right now as primary options. Way too many mistakes.

Grant right now is playing terrible.

So more Vujacic thanks Fish.

I need a gif of Thomas, Vujacic, and Fisher as 3 men and a baby(KP). I just have a feeling those 3 have an apartment together.
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12/10/2015  11:57 PM
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:KP got fouled on one, bad pass on the other and missed a gimme FT line shot.
Mainly they went with him at 5, Melo at 4 and all of a sudden they got better play on BOTH ends.
Closed the half strong with that lineup.

The coaches have to realize that RLO can only be used as a token starter (first 7 min max of each half) and the rest of the time he's an insurance for Porzingis at the 5 spot in the case on FT or injury.

Hope we see more of that in the 2nd half. We also need our guards to be FAR more aggressive in attacking the D and not just being Traffic Cones out there. Too much RoLo handling the ball and not enough of the guards calling for A screen and going with a 2 man.


We need to get more PNR with Grant and KP.

Grant cannot play with KP right now as primary options. Way too many mistakes.

Grant right now is playing terrible.


It is because we are not playing him to what he is most comfortable with. He had a very fluid thing going with Porzingis dating back to summer league and I would bet anything that it would still work right now. Porzingis will get a lot of efficient shots in PNR and Grant can be in his comfort zone because that is where is he is most effective.
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