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tkf
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NardDogNation wrote:tkf wrote:NardDogNation wrote:tkf wrote:NardDogNation wrote:jrodmc wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Another update:
http://deadspin.com/exclusive-the-extended-donald-sterling-tape-1568291249There was some earlier discussion about whether Sterling was having this conversation over the phone or if he was bugged. He must've been bugged because in the beginning of the audio, you hear him ask for juice from Stiviano and he ends up with a glass of juice. Also, a little quote that jumped out at me: "it isn't a question- we don't evaluate right and wrong, live in a society. We live in a culture. We have to live in that culture." Sound suspicious much? If we don't evaluate right and wrong, then who does? The illumaniti! I wish playa2 was still around to get to the bottom of this. I really do miss the dude. Who's "we"? And when "we" are done evaluating (and establishing) right and wrong, on what basis is it done? Do "we" get to vote on the issue?
You ask great questions, but then wonder if a banned rabid conspiracy theorist would have the answer(s).  I for one, can't believe IWG hasn't weighed in yet. Apologies if he already did, and I missed it. What's worse, invasion of privacy or being a public bigot? I happen to think bigotry is worse. Should I keep that to myself?
Is everyone entitled to hold their own private racial predjudices, as long as they do it in the privacy of their own homes?
So predjudice is okay, but racism isn't? Out of the excess of the heart a man speaks. "We"? "WE"?!?!The ominous "we". "WE"!!!!! That's who. Now excuse me while I go read the National Enquirer. But before I do.... I think that a man is free to believe what he wants to believe, publicly or privately. The only issue I have is if those beliefs are exercised or used in a manner to infringe on someone else's ability for self-determination. Like I said before, I don't necessarily have a problem with what Sterling said. Yeah, it pisses me off but he's free to think the way he does unless those comments are somehow put into action. I agree, with his right to feel how he does.. but to express that and it has been documented that he has acted upon it as well, in such a position of power is the problem.. The NBA is a league with a union, there are other owners with a vested interest in how each team conducts business.... As a fan I could care less about that douchebag, but for the players and the owners, they are part of a league in which there is an owner, a man in a position of great power, with views and practices that are now causing big problems.. And herein lies the disconnect. You're making the same mistake that right-wing talk radio always makes. Yes, everyone has the right to free speech but that doesn't mean there are no consequences that accompany what you say. For example, if I smack a protein shake out the hands of a 'roided up body builder and make fun of him for being a grown man that wears spandex and he beats my ass into a coma, he's not doing it because he doesn't believe in free speech, lol. Same goes for Donald Sterling; he can say whatever he likes but then can't cry victim if no one wants to associate with him because of it. did you actually read my post? I agree there comes consequences for your actions, speech.... but he has the right to say what he wants, the fans have the right to not attend his games, but the players are under contract, the owners are in partnership with him owning the league, so it is different, they can't boycott him, so I agree, something should be done... If he wants to say these things, he doesn't need to be an owner of a NBA franchise.... I actually did read it. Your very first sentence was "I agree, with his right to feel how he does.. but to express that and it has been documented that he has acted upon it as well, in such a position of power is the problem." I interrupted that to mean that there was an objection or moderation involved in his right to free speech. Because of that, I felt compelled to elaborate on my earlier point about free speech and its ensuing consequences. WELL ok, it got confusing because you elaborated on a point I made, as If i didn't make it.. haha.. which is why I ask did you read what I wrote... Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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4/29/2014 1:50 PM
