JamesKPolk wrote:So someone is a troll because people don't agree with his basketball opinion? lol

People used to do the same thing to Isiah detractors.

Just let people be themselves and post their thoughts. As long as nobody is insulting other members and saying derogatory and offensive things then they should be allowed to post freely. This is a basketball forum on the internet. If people are getting offended by someone else's basketball opinion then they need to check themselves. If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you on the internet then how do you handle it in real life?

great post, a lot of the negativity here is based on retaliation on different opinions of the decisions of the team and opinions of players currently on the team or ex players of the team

There are always going to be constructive criticism and different opinions but if there was actual respect regarding each other's opinions/posts' EVEN if you don't agree with them then it simply would cut most of the drama, not needed there is here

tkf wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:So someone is a troll because people don't agree with his basketball opinion? lol

People used to do the same thing to Isiah detractors.

Just let people be themselves and post their thoughts. As long as nobody is insulting other members and saying derogatory and offensive things then they should be allowed to post freely. This is a basketball forum on the internet. If people are getting offended by someone else's basketball opinion then they need to check themselves. If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you on the internet then how do you handle it in real life?

An internet forum is a Community of sorts. When the balance of that community is continually challenged to the detriment of everyone's enjoyment - than it is acceptable for the Moderator (or site owner) to step in and operate in the best interest of his/her site. I think this is what some people do not seem to understand. Reading/Posting on a forum is not a democracy. We are all here because we enjoy both the Knicks and the environment on this site. All are entitled to stay or leave freely. Some however feel that it is their god given right to do or say anything they want on such a forum. When what they say is either so acutely out of line.....or so chronically out of line.....it is up to the mod to keep the balance in check.

In this case - if you say the same basic things over and over and over again ..... so much so that even the casual poster notices ....it is a chronic problem.

it is funny you say that.. tell me what I have said that is so chronically out of line or acutely out of line?

And you are right it is not a democracy.. so why mention the balance of the community being challenged?.. what should really only matter is what the site owner or mod says right?

Some however feel that it is their god given right to do or say anything they want on such a forum.

really? most sites have a code of conduct.. if I haven't violated them.. what is the problem.... your statement is not true..

I have been a mod for many years, I understand, well understand the TOS or code of conduct however it is termed.... if you stay within those boundaries, the site, NOT GOD..... but the site owners are pretty much telling you, that you are free to express your opinion... I usually only talk basket ball, I don't participate in many other threads non-basketball related, I don't post pictures in the alba thread( not that there is anything at all wrong with it, although I enjoy looking at the pics).. so again, you are so far off base with this "saying anything they want" it is hilarious..

Wait, were you a mod before, I think you better say it another time just to be sure?

Anyway, why continue repeating yourself over and over again about Melo, the poor front office decisions, and how the Knicks suck when you know that these same talking points have consistently fallen on deaf ears or been met with animosity in the past? You know that the stuff you're saying will only stir the pot as it has 1000 times before, so why even put in the effort? Seems like a waste of your time. When it gets to the point where your comments are only aggravating posters and inhibiting basketball discussion then why keep going- everyone else gets annoyed, and you yourself get upset when people call you a troll as a result. Quite a lot of work for such an unsatisfying payback.

callmened wrote:BRIGGS..what do you think about Udrih? I'm not sure if I saw your input

Would love to have him

Dagger wrote:

tkf wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:So someone is a troll because people don't agree with his basketball opinion? lol

People used to do the same thing to Isiah detractors.

Just let people be themselves and post their thoughts. As long as nobody is insulting other members and saying derogatory and offensive things then they should be allowed to post freely. This is a basketball forum on the internet. If people are getting offended by someone else's basketball opinion then they need to check themselves. If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you on the internet then how do you handle it in real life?

An internet forum is a Community of sorts. When the balance of that community is continually challenged to the detriment of everyone's enjoyment - than it is acceptable for the Moderator (or site owner) to step in and operate in the best interest of his/her site. I think this is what some people do not seem to understand. Reading/Posting on a forum is not a democracy. We are all here because we enjoy both the Knicks and the environment on this site. All are entitled to stay or leave freely. Some however feel that it is their god given right to do or say anything they want on such a forum. When what they say is either so acutely out of line.....or so chronically out of line.....it is up to the mod to keep the balance in check.

In this case - if you say the same basic things over and over and over again ..... so much so that even the casual poster notices ....it is a chronic problem.

it is funny you say that.. tell me what I have said that is so chronically out of line or acutely out of line?

And you are right it is not a democracy.. so why mention the balance of the community being challenged?.. what should really only matter is what the site owner or mod says right?

Some however feel that it is their god given right to do or say anything they want on such a forum.

really? most sites have a code of conduct.. if I haven't violated them.. what is the problem.... your statement is not true..

I have been a mod for many years, I understand, well understand the TOS or code of conduct however it is termed.... if you stay within those boundaries, the site, NOT GOD..... but the site owners are pretty much telling you, that you are free to express your opinion... I usually only talk basket ball, I don't participate in many other threads non-basketball related, I don't post pictures in the alba thread( not that there is anything at all wrong with it, although I enjoy looking at the pics).. so again, you are so far off base with this "saying anything they want" it is hilarious..

Wait, were you a mod before, I think you better say it another time just to be sure?

Anyway, why continue repeating yourself over and over again about Melo, the poor front office decisions, and how the Knicks suck when you know that these same talking points have consistently fallen on deaf ears or been met with animosity in the past? You know that the stuff you're saying will only stir the pot as it has 1000 times before, so why even put in the effort? Seems like a waste of your time. When it gets to the point where your comments are only aggravating posters and inhibiting basketball discussion then why keep going- everyone else gets annoyed, and you yourself get upset when people call you a troll as a result. Quite a lot of work for such an unsatisfying payback.

sorry but you don't get to author history-- there has been a noticeable increase in disaffection with the knicks and we are seeing a measurable uptick in the number of posts to that effect. the scales are falling from the eyes of many knick fans. windows closing, 2015, opting out, 25 million extension, and what not.

people with know-how and prescience are often rewarded with scorn.

dk7th wrote:

Dagger wrote:

tkf wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:So someone is a troll because people don't agree with his basketball opinion? lol

People used to do the same thing to Isiah detractors.

Just let people be themselves and post their thoughts. As long as nobody is insulting other members and saying derogatory and offensive things then they should be allowed to post freely. This is a basketball forum on the internet. If people are getting offended by someone else's basketball opinion then they need to check themselves. If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you on the internet then how do you handle it in real life?

An internet forum is a Community of sorts. When the balance of that community is continually challenged to the detriment of everyone's enjoyment - than it is acceptable for the Moderator (or site owner) to step in and operate in the best interest of his/her site. I think this is what some people do not seem to understand. Reading/Posting on a forum is not a democracy. We are all here because we enjoy both the Knicks and the environment on this site. All are entitled to stay or leave freely. Some however feel that it is their god given right to do or say anything they want on such a forum. When what they say is either so acutely out of line.....or so chronically out of line.....it is up to the mod to keep the balance in check.

In this case - if you say the same basic things over and over and over again ..... so much so that even the casual poster notices ....it is a chronic problem.

it is funny you say that.. tell me what I have said that is so chronically out of line or acutely out of line?

And you are right it is not a democracy.. so why mention the balance of the community being challenged?.. what should really only matter is what the site owner or mod says right?

Some however feel that it is their god given right to do or say anything they want on such a forum.

really? most sites have a code of conduct.. if I haven't violated them.. what is the problem.... your statement is not true..

I have been a mod for many years, I understand, well understand the TOS or code of conduct however it is termed.... if you stay within those boundaries, the site, NOT GOD..... but the site owners are pretty much telling you, that you are free to express your opinion... I usually only talk basket ball, I don't participate in many other threads non-basketball related, I don't post pictures in the alba thread( not that there is anything at all wrong with it, although I enjoy looking at the pics).. so again, you are so far off base with this "saying anything they want" it is hilarious..

Wait, were you a mod before, I think you better say it another time just to be sure?

Anyway, why continue repeating yourself over and over again about Melo, the poor front office decisions, and how the Knicks suck when you know that these same talking points have consistently fallen on deaf ears or been met with animosity in the past? You know that the stuff you're saying will only stir the pot as it has 1000 times before, so why even put in the effort? Seems like a waste of your time. When it gets to the point where your comments are only aggravating posters and inhibiting basketball discussion then why keep going- everyone else gets annoyed, and you yourself get upset when people call you a troll as a result. Quite a lot of work for such an unsatisfying payback.

sorry but you don't get to author history-- there has been a noticeable increase in disaffection with the knicks and we are seeing a measurable uptick in the number of posts to that effect. the scales are falling from the eyes of many knick fans. windows closing, 2015, opting out, 25 million extension, and what not.

people with know-how and prescience are often rewarded with scorn.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Dagger wrote:

tkf wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:So someone is a troll because people don't agree with his basketball opinion? lol

People used to do the same thing to Isiah detractors.

Just let people be themselves and post their thoughts. As long as nobody is insulting other members and saying derogatory and offensive things then they should be allowed to post freely. This is a basketball forum on the internet. If people are getting offended by someone else's basketball opinion then they need to check themselves. If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you on the internet then how do you handle it in real life?

An internet forum is a Community of sorts. When the balance of that community is continually challenged to the detriment of everyone's enjoyment - than it is acceptable for the Moderator (or site owner) to step in and operate in the best interest of his/her site. I think this is what some people do not seem to understand. Reading/Posting on a forum is not a democracy. We are all here because we enjoy both the Knicks and the environment on this site. All are entitled to stay or leave freely. Some however feel that it is their god given right to do or say anything they want on such a forum. When what they say is either so acutely out of line.....or so chronically out of line.....it is up to the mod to keep the balance in check.

In this case - if you say the same basic things over and over and over again ..... so much so that even the casual poster notices ....it is a chronic problem.

it is funny you say that.. tell me what I have said that is so chronically out of line or acutely out of line?

And you are right it is not a democracy.. so why mention the balance of the community being challenged?.. what should really only matter is what the site owner or mod says right?

Some however feel that it is their god given right to do or say anything they want on such a forum.

really? most sites have a code of conduct.. if I haven't violated them.. what is the problem.... your statement is not true..

I have been a mod for many years, I understand, well understand the TOS or code of conduct however it is termed.... if you stay within those boundaries, the site, NOT GOD..... but the site owners are pretty much telling you, that you are free to express your opinion... I usually only talk basket ball, I don't participate in many other threads non-basketball related, I don't post pictures in the alba thread( not that there is anything at all wrong with it, although I enjoy looking at the pics).. so again, you are so far off base with this "saying anything they want" it is hilarious..

Wait, were you a mod before, I think you better say it another time just to be sure?

Anyway, why continue repeating yourself over and over again about Melo, the poor front office decisions, and how the Knicks suck when you know that these same talking points have consistently fallen on deaf ears or been met with animosity in the past? You know that the stuff you're saying will only stir the pot as it has 1000 times before, so why even put in the effort? Seems like a waste of your time. When it gets to the point where your comments are only aggravating posters and inhibiting basketball discussion then why keep going- everyone else gets annoyed, and you yourself get upset when people call you a troll as a result. Quite a lot of work for such an unsatisfying payback.

sorry but you don't get to author history-- there has been a noticeable increase in disaffection with the knicks and we are seeing a measurable uptick in the number of posts to that effect. the scales are falling from the eyes of many knick fans. windows closing, 2015, opting out, 25 million extension, and what not.

people with know-how and prescience are often rewarded with scorn.

There are three guys that post relentlessly about the disaffection with the Knicks. One hasn't been around here for quite awhile. Another seems to be warned daily about his attempts to be just provocative and the other came here after he was kicked off of another knick forum. I think we might be at a point here where one could say, and then there were two.

a very insightful summation indeed.

dk7th wrote:

Dagger wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Dagger wrote:

tkf wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:So someone is a troll because people don't agree with his basketball opinion? lol

People used to do the same thing to Isiah detractors.

Just let people be themselves and post their thoughts. As long as nobody is insulting other members and saying derogatory and offensive things then they should be allowed to post freely. This is a basketball forum on the internet. If people are getting offended by someone else's basketball opinion then they need to check themselves. If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you on the internet then how do you handle it in real life?

An internet forum is a Community of sorts. When the balance of that community is continually challenged to the detriment of everyone's enjoyment - than it is acceptable for the Moderator (or site owner) to step in and operate in the best interest of his/her site. I think this is what some people do not seem to understand. Reading/Posting on a forum is not a democracy. We are all here because we enjoy both the Knicks and the environment on this site. All are entitled to stay or leave freely. Some however feel that it is their god given right to do or say anything they want on such a forum. When what they say is either so acutely out of line.....or so chronically out of line.....it is up to the mod to keep the balance in check.

In this case - if you say the same basic things over and over and over again ..... so much so that even the casual poster notices ....it is a chronic problem.

it is funny you say that.. tell me what I have said that is so chronically out of line or acutely out of line?

And you are right it is not a democracy.. so why mention the balance of the community being challenged?.. what should really only matter is what the site owner or mod says right?

Some however feel that it is their god given right to do or say anything they want on such a forum.

really? most sites have a code of conduct.. if I haven't violated them.. what is the problem.... your statement is not true..

I have been a mod for many years, I understand, well understand the TOS or code of conduct however it is termed.... if you stay within those boundaries, the site, NOT GOD..... but the site owners are pretty much telling you, that you are free to express your opinion... I usually only talk basket ball, I don't participate in many other threads non-basketball related, I don't post pictures in the alba thread( not that there is anything at all wrong with it, although I enjoy looking at the pics).. so again, you are so far off base with this "saying anything they want" it is hilarious..

Wait, were you a mod before, I think you better say it another time just to be sure?

Anyway, why continue repeating yourself over and over again about Melo, the poor front office decisions, and how the Knicks suck when you know that these same talking points have consistently fallen on deaf ears or been met with animosity in the past? You know that the stuff you're saying will only stir the pot as it has 1000 times before, so why even put in the effort? Seems like a waste of your time. When it gets to the point where your comments are only aggravating posters and inhibiting basketball discussion then why keep going- everyone else gets annoyed, and you yourself get upset when people call you a troll as a result. Quite a lot of work for such an unsatisfying payback.

sorry but you don't get to author history-- there has been a noticeable increase in disaffection with the knicks and we are seeing a measurable uptick in the number of posts to that effect. the scales are falling from the eyes of many knick fans. windows closing, 2015, opting out, 25 million extension, and what not.

people with know-how and prescience are often rewarded with scorn.

No, people with know-how and prescience are lauded for their knowledge. Whining and moaning like a teenage girl who got dumped before prom is not foresight. Anyway this thread is supposed to be about udrih, so that's all I'll say.

"whining and moaning like a teenage girl." love the cassandra angle-- nice. it still illustrates my point perfectly.

and you actually just said a great deal-- maybe more than you wanted, regretfully-- and i think this will be a timely test for martin and andrew if not mistaken. i look forward to their take. seems like a few nerves are fraying.

I would like to know dk, why post like that never get modded or warned? i look forward to their take as well..

callmened wrote:Yikes! That comment about puerto ricans sounds awful.....

Care to point me out which one? I missed most of this thread but as a proud puertorican I want to know.