blkexec wrote:

playa2 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Looks like Jeremy Tyler needs to get signed before another team does the same. He has come a long way in the last 2 years.
Chris Smith...

Reggie Bullock, another great game 8-15 shooting, 5 rebounds and 4 assists...

We didn't want another shooter, we let Copeland walk for a reason we only have one ball and it has Melo's name all over it.

I called this one everybody was jockeying for all these no name pg's and pf.

This guy played at North Carolina and knew who to knock down long range jump shots and he hits the boards. That stat line is, who he is Bullock had the all around game the knicks needed and he puts the ball in the basket consistently.

Reggie is averaging 17 pts per game along with 4.3 rebs

Briggs how did you miss this guy ???

Bullock was supposed to be our pick. It was lined up that way during most of the pre-draft rankings. Plus, we had a hole at SF, already had Shump,JR,Felton at SG and Bullock is not only a knock down shooter, but a solid defender(Thought Woody loves defense?) that plays SG & SF....he played PF in college due to team injuries.

My guess is THj will be more of a dynamic slashing guard, with quicker 1 on 1 drives and explosiveness. Bullock is looking more like the next Allan Houston or Michael Redd type, with better defense.

I just don't see Hardaway becoming a better player than JR, in his prime. But at the 24th pick, if you can find a JR type, that’s a good deal. His defense is very suspect.

Bullock looks good in Summer League so far
But I must admit that prior to the draft, I liked Allen Crabbe over him, because of his length *especially on DEF and OFF ,to get his shot off*, and seemed like slightly better shooter to me as well from the videos I saw

I believe he was chosen more for his "name" and pedigree than for his ability to play
His ceiling is closer to JR, I think he was less physically talented than JR was when he entered the league straight out from high school, however, THJ likely will be more mature/coachable with 3 years of college experience, with the guidance of Tim Hardaway himself at an early age

While Tim Hardway JR might have a higher ceiling than both these players, he doesn't have the DEFENSE that both these guy's possesses and their size as a legit SF
His size is an issue, he is closer to 6'3 - 6'4 than the 6'5 - 6'6, I see him listed at, on top of it, he does not have a great handle, although it is something he can work on

I don't buy that THJ was the best player available, I personally like Glen Rice JR more which I think can play SF better than THR
Unless THJ can develop to a PG, I just don't see it being a good pick, there was a good chance he would slip to the mid 2nd round had we not picked him
Hopefully I am wrong and he can develop in to a fine player for the Knick's, unfortunately, it is a sign to me that either JR or Iman is going to be moved in the near future, likely Iman from the history of trade rumors about Iman, to his possible extension in 2015 summer in which is the same year for all the FA's available, and to the latest SAS interview with D12

I think both Bullock and Allen Crabbe will be better "role players", mainly because of their DEFENSIVE ability and their ability is to catch and shoot effectively
More importantly, we don't have a legit SF and could really use one

CJ Leslie won't likely be able to contribute this year until he fills out his body
MWP and Melo are both closer to PF's than SF's
Although we have more talent at SF this season compared to last season, I don't think we even have a legit SF, ideally a player like Wilson Chandler's allround skillset, physical size/abilities, and his defensive abilities

Like Brigg's said earlier, James Ennis was a complete steal in the draft, and his body is NBA ready at SF

RonRon wrote:

blkexec wrote:

playa2 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Looks like Jeremy Tyler needs to get signed before another team does the same. He has come a long way in the last 2 years.
Chris Smith...

Reggie Bullock, another great game 8-15 shooting, 5 rebounds and 4 assists...

We didn't want another shooter, we let Copeland walk for a reason we only have one ball and it has Melo's name all over it.

I called this one everybody was jockeying for all these no name pg's and pf.

This guy played at North Carolina and knew who to knock down long range jump shots and he hits the boards. That stat line is, who he is Bullock had the all around game the knicks needed and he puts the ball in the basket consistently.

Reggie is averaging 17 pts per game along with 4.3 rebs

Briggs how did you miss this guy ???

Bullock was supposed to be our pick. It was lined up that way during most of the pre-draft rankings. Plus, we had a hole at SF, already had Shump,JR,Felton at SG and Bullock is not only a knock down shooter, but a solid defender(Thought Woody loves defense?) that plays SG & SF....he played PF in college due to team injuries.

My guess is THj will be more of a dynamic slashing guard, with quicker 1 on 1 drives and explosiveness. Bullock is looking more like the next Allan Houston or Michael Redd type, with better defense.

I just don't see Hardaway becoming a better player than JR, in his prime. But at the 24th pick, if you can find a JR type, that’s a good deal. His defense is very suspect.

Bullock looks good in Summer League so far
But I must admit that prior to the draft, I liked Allen Crabbe over him, because of his length *especially on DEF and OFF ,to get his shot off*, and seemed like slightly better shooter to me as well from the videos I saw

I believe he was chosen more for his "name" and pedigree than for his ability to play
His ceiling is closer to JR, I think he was less physically talented than JR was when he entered the league straight out from high school, however, THJ likely will be more mature/coachable with 3 years of college experience, with the guidance of Tim Hardaway himself at an early age

While Tim Hardway JR might have a higher ceiling than both these players, he doesn't have the DEFENSE that both these guy's possesses and their size as a legit SF
His size is an issue, he is closer to 6'3 - 6'4 than the 6'5 - 6'6, I see him listed at, on top of it, he does not have a great handle, although it is something he can work on

I don't buy that THJ was the best player available, I personally like Glen Rice JR more which I think can play SF better than THR
Unless THJ can develop to a PG, I just don't see it being a good pick, there was a good chance he would slip to the mid 2nd round had we not picked him
Hopefully I am wrong and he can develop in to a fine player for the Knick's, unfortunately, it is a sign to me that either JR or Iman is going to be moved in the near future, likely Iman from the history of trade rumors about Iman, to his possible extension in 2015 summer in which is the same year for all the FA's available, and to the latest SAS interview with D12

I think both Bullock and Allen Crabbe will be better "role players", mainly because of their DEFENSIVE ability and their ability is to catch and shoot effectively
More importantly, we don't have a legit SF and could really use one

CJ Leslie won't likely be able to contribute this year until he fills out his body
MWP and Melo are both closer to PF's than SF's
Although we have more talent at SF this season compared to last season, I don't think we even have a legit SF, ideally a player like Wilson Chandler's allround skillset, physical size/abilities, and his defensive abilities

Like Brigg's said earlier, James Ennis was a complete steal in the draft, and his body is NBA ready at SF

thanks for the comments, see my note above to BigDaddyG, applies here as well.
It is just that every draft (pretty much) Briggs picks better players than our management does. Honestly, Briggs is at 70%-80% right on and our management is closer to 40%-50% with a much lower ceiling.

As I said before, the thing that bothers me about Tim Jr is his defense. I hope his shot gets better. He is a wet stroke, so hopefully the % has more to do with shot selection. Judging by his first two games, it needs to improve as was the case in college. Bullock seems to take good shots and play better defense but not have the driving ability (which is nice to have).

I am afraid I agree with you on Shump. JR Smith isn't going anywhere as I think he is the bastard child of the coach ;-) Shump might be on the block for a pg and I think just with his defense, he should not be given up. Not to mention his 3pt shooting has been amazing. That gives me hope for Tim Jr's shot improving (but just think how much better Bullock can be if that is the case.)

To those of you who have seen Bullock and Tim Jr play, what about their shooting forms? Tim Jr. has great form, so I think his lower shooting % is just shot selection...

playa2 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

playa2 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Looks like Jeremy Tyler needs to get signed before another team does the same. He has come a long way in the last 2 years.
Chris Smith...

Reggie Bullock, another great game 8-15 shooting, 5 rebounds and 4 assists...

We didn't want another shooter, we let Copeland walk for a reason we only have one ball and it has Melo's name all over it.

I called this one everybody was jockeying for all these no name pg's and pf.

This guy played at North Carolina and knew who to knock down long range jump shots and he hits the boards. That stat line is, who he is Bullock had the all around game the knicks needed and he puts the ball in the basket consistently.

Reggie is averaging 17 pts per game along with 4.3 rebs

Briggs how did you miss this guy ???

Bullock was supposed to be our pick. It was lined up that way during most of the pre-draft rankings. Plus, we had a hole at SF, already had Shump,JR,Felton at SG and Bullock is not only a knock down shooter, but a solid defender(Thought Woody loves defense?) that plays SG & SF....he played PF in college due to team injuries.

My guess is THj will be more of a dynamic slashing guard, with quicker 1 on 1 drives and explosiveness. Bullock is looking more like the next Allan Houston or Michael Redd type, with better defense.

I just don't see Hardaway becoming a better player than JR, in his prime. But at the 24th pick, if you can find a JR type, that’s a good deal. His defense is very suspect.

When teams collapse on our bigs in the paint who do we have to knocks down shots now that Copeland Novak are gone and Jr Smith is hurt. How could we pass on Bullock that was a no brainer, now it's true he needs the ball in his hands to produce but Melo can't shoot by himself.