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JamesKPolk
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6/29/2012  12:10 AM
RonRon wrote:We got a lefty, just not the lefty I wanted.

We have no backup PG
we might not have a SG or back up SG healthy
we have no stretch 4
we have no athletic forward
we have no legit shot blocking center

Super athletic my ass, Super athletic in Europe means average to under average athletic in the US

Add him to the list that won't come over, like I said the last 2 Euros that came to us

Gallo/MozGov, they played well for us and they went bye bye quick as can be...

None of these needs would be addressed by the 48th pick in the draft but keep on believing that fantasy.

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ATrain
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6/29/2012  12:12 AM
JamesKPolk wrote:
RonRon wrote:We got a lefty, just not the lefty I wanted.

We have no backup PG
we might not have a SG or back up SG healthy
we have no stretch 4
we have no athletic forward
we have no legit shot blocking center

Super athletic my ass, Super athletic in Europe means average to under average athletic in the US

Add him to the list that won't come over, like I said the last 2 Euros that came to us

Gallo/MozGov, they played well for us and they went bye bye quick as can be...

None of these needs would be addressed by the 48th pick in the draft but keep on believing that fantasy.

Tell that to Isaiah Thomas.
ATrain
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6/29/2012  12:13 AM
I don't understand why it not fair for some to question the pick. Just not sold.
JamesKPolk
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6/29/2012  12:13 AM
ATrain wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
RonRon wrote:We got a lefty, just not the lefty I wanted.

We have no backup PG
we might not have a SG or back up SG healthy
we have no stretch 4
we have no athletic forward
we have no legit shot blocking center

Super athletic my ass, Super athletic in Europe means average to under average athletic in the US

Add him to the list that won't come over, like I said the last 2 Euros that came to us

Gallo/MozGov, they played well for us and they went bye bye quick as can be...

None of these needs would be addressed by the 48th pick in the draft but keep on believing that fantasy.

Tell that to Isaiah Thomas.

Oh, okay. Please being up more exceptions to the rule. Because there are many late 2nd round selections in the rotations of title-contending teams.

"Peace, plenty, and contentment reign throughout our borders, and our beloved country presents a sublime moral spectacle to the world." - James K Polk
yellowboy90
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6/29/2012  12:14 AM
I have a feeling Dallas drafted for the Knicks in the 2nd.
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6/29/2012  12:15 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:I have a feeling Dallas drafted for the Knicks in the 2nd.

they drafted a lot of players that we were hoping to fall out of the draft or acquire with extra picks

GREAT picks with players that could contribute now and still develop...
ATrain
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6/29/2012  12:16 AM
JamesKPolk wrote:
ATrain wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
RonRon wrote:We got a lefty, just not the lefty I wanted.

We have no backup PG
we might not have a SG or back up SG healthy
we have no stretch 4
we have no athletic forward
we have no legit shot blocking center

Super athletic my ass, Super athletic in Europe means average to under average athletic in the US

Add him to the list that won't come over, like I said the last 2 Euros that came to us

Gallo/MozGov, they played well for us and they went bye bye quick as can be...

None of these needs would be addressed by the 48th pick in the draft but keep on believing that fantasy.

Tell that to Isaiah Thomas.

Oh, okay. Please being up more exceptions to the rule. Because there are many late 2nd round selections in the rotations of title-contending teams.


The fact is that some pan out and some don't. So for you to completely discredit what Ron said is untrue. There is a possibility that we could have at least gained a rotation player. We didn't but you cannot say that the possibility was not there. It was there for every team with a 2nd round pick.
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6/29/2012  12:16 AM
Machado...buford...sims and thompson were undrafted...so we can give tyem a ****
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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6/29/2012  12:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/29/2012  12:47 AM
JamesKPolk wrote:Some of these posts sadden me.

Then I realize people react the same exact way every year, even to meaningless second round picks.


Kinda like the reaction to fields, jorts & shump. This happens every yr
JamesKPolk
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6/29/2012  12:19 AM
ATrain wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
ATrain wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
RonRon wrote:We got a lefty, just not the lefty I wanted.

We have no backup PG
we might not have a SG or back up SG healthy
we have no stretch 4
we have no athletic forward
we have no legit shot blocking center

Super athletic my ass, Super athletic in Europe means average to under average athletic in the US

Add him to the list that won't come over, like I said the last 2 Euros that came to us

Gallo/MozGov, they played well for us and they went bye bye quick as can be...

None of these needs would be addressed by the 48th pick in the draft but keep on believing that fantasy.

Tell that to Isaiah Thomas.

Oh, okay. Please being up more exceptions to the rule. Because there are many late 2nd round selections in the rotations of title-contending teams.


The fact is that some pan out and some don't. So for you to completely discredit what Ron said is untrue. There is a possibility that we could have at least gained a rotation player. We didn't but you cannot say that the possibility was not there. It was there for every team with a 2nd round pick.

Why is the possibility gone? Because you don't know who it is? Because he's not coming over? Because he's a Euro? Because we didn't draft a guy that people just heard of 2 days ago and wanted badly for no apparent reason like every year? The guy can be a good player in the league and he's an asset to have because he is young and upcoming and starts for the Euroleague champions. There was nobody at that draft position in this draft that would have made an impact. Nobody. If there was, we would have drafted him. Every year various players get overhyped on the forums and then disappear into oblivion. This year is no different.

"Peace, plenty, and contentment reign throughout our borders, and our beloved country presents a sublime moral spectacle to the world." - James K Polk
ATrain
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6/29/2012  12:20 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Some of these posts sadden me.

Then I realize people react the same exact way every year, even to meaningless second round picks.


Kinda like the reaction to fields, jorts & shump

I don't think you can compare the reactions tbh
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6/29/2012  12:22 AM
BRIGGS wrote:The Knicks won big with the FA hearing--no complaints on pick 48 if they think we need the money. Im sure they can pick up some decent names that went undrafted to our SL team.

Like Scott Machado?
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6/29/2012  12:24 AM
ATrain wrote:I don't understand why it not fair for some to question the pick. Just not sold.

Alot of people here were not sold on Fields, Shump or Jorts. Happens every yr under the Grunwald Regime
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6/29/2012  12:27 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The Knicks won big with the FA hearing--no complaints on pick 48 if they think we need the money. Im sure they can pick up some decent names that went undrafted to our SL team.

Like Scott Machado?

Maybe he can be our undrafted gem this year backing up Lin.
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6/29/2012  12:28 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/29/2012  12:31 AM
JamesKPolk wrote:
ATrain wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
ATrain wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
RonRon wrote:We got a lefty, just not the lefty I wanted.

We have no backup PG
we might not have a SG or back up SG healthy
we have no stretch 4
we have no athletic forward
we have no legit shot blocking center

Super athletic my ass, Super athletic in Europe means average to under average athletic in the US

Add him to the list that won't come over, like I said the last 2 Euros that came to us

Gallo/MozGov, they played well for us and they went bye bye quick as can be...

None of these needs would be addressed by the 48th pick in the draft but keep on believing that fantasy.

Tell that to Isaiah Thomas.

Oh, okay. Please being up more exceptions to the rule. Because there are many late 2nd round selections in the rotations of title-contending teams.


The fact is that some pan out and some don't. So for you to completely discredit what Ron said is untrue. There is a possibility that we could have at least gained a rotation player. We didn't but you cannot say that the possibility was not there. It was there for every team with a 2nd round pick.

Why is the possibility gone? Because you don't know who it is? Because he's not coming over? Because he's a Euro? Because we didn't draft a guy that people just heard of 2 days ago and wanted badly for no apparent reason like every year? The guy can be a good player in the league and he's an asset to have because he is young and upcoming and starts for the Euroleague champions. There was nobody at that draft position in this draft that would have made an impact. Nobody. If there was, we would have drafted him. Every year various players get overhyped on the forums and then disappear into oblivion. This year is no different.

Damn James couldnt have said it better myself. Sorry guys trying to get caught up with the posts
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6/29/2012  12:31 AM
RonRon wrote:We got a lefty, just not the lefty I wanted.

We have no backup PG
we might not have a SG or back up SG healthy
we have no stretch 4
we have no athletic forward
we have no legit shot blocking center

Super athletic my ass, Super athletic in Europe means average to under average athletic in the US

Add him to the list that won't come over, like I said the last 2 Euros that came to us

Gallo/MozGov, they played well for us and they went bye bye quick as can be...

I get what you're saying Ron Ron we could've basically tried to get a diamond in the rough but I would like to point out

We have Amare Stoudemire - who will return to form and start posterizing people again
Tyson Chandler is a legit shot blocking/altering center

Other than that yeah a stretch 4, SG and backup PG would be nice but hopefully if JR Smith remembers he's supposed to have cruise missile range and shump comes back healthy we're good at the 2.

backup PG = $3M midlevel exception no?

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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6/29/2012  12:32 AM
Yes kidd & Machado to eventually become Lin's backup
ATrain
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6/29/2012  12:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/29/2012  12:34 AM
JamesKPolk wrote:
ATrain wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
ATrain wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
RonRon wrote:We got a lefty, just not the lefty I wanted.

We have no backup PG
we might not have a SG or back up SG healthy
we have no stretch 4
we have no athletic forward
we have no legit shot blocking center

Super athletic my ass, Super athletic in Europe means average to under average athletic in the US

Add him to the list that won't come over, like I said the last 2 Euros that came to us

Gallo/MozGov, they played well for us and they went bye bye quick as can be...

None of these needs would be addressed by the 48th pick in the draft but keep on believing that fantasy.

Tell that to Isaiah Thomas.

Oh, okay. Please being up more exceptions to the rule. Because there are many late 2nd round selections in the rotations of title-contending teams.


The fact is that some pan out and some don't. So for you to completely discredit what Ron said is untrue. There is a possibility that we could have at least gained a rotation player. We didn't but you cannot say that the possibility was not there. It was there for every team with a 2nd round pick.

Why is the possibility gone? Because you don't know who it is? Because he's not coming over? Because he's a Euro? Because we didn't draft a guy that people just heard of 2 days ago and wanted badly for no apparent reason like every year? The guy can be a good player in the league and he's an asset to have because he is young and upcoming and starts for the Euroleague champions. There was nobody at that draft position in this draft that would have made an impact. Nobody. If there was, we would have drafted him. Every year various players get overhyped on the forums and then disappear into oblivion. This year is no different.


The possibility is gone because he will not be here next season............
I never had a problem with "not knowing who he is"
Like I said before, you do not know if anybody who we passed on or who was picked after us would have made an impact. You. do. not. know.
No one overhyped anyone. Everyone recognizes that these players have flaws.
You're argument about "various players" can be argued for these draft and stash guys who don't pan out or never come over.
Once again, you can not say that anyone we passed on would have been worse than our pick.
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6/29/2012  12:34 AM
RonRon wrote:We got a lefty, just not the lefty I wanted.

We have no backup PG
we might not have a SG or back up SG healthy
we have no stretch 4
we have no athletic forward
we have no legit shot blocking center

Super athletic my ass, Super athletic in Europe means average to under average athletic in the US

Add him to the list that won't come over, like I said the last 2 Euros that came to us

Gallo/MozGov, they played well for us and they went bye bye quick as can be...

uh, what year's roster are you looking at?

no legit shotblocking center? have you heard of tyson chandler.

no stretch 4? may i introduce you to steve novak.

might not have a SG or backup SG? JR Smith and Iman Shumpert (who, yes, will be out until january or february, not the end of the world, toney can play spot minutes and word is they are looking to sign a SG in FA)

no athletic forward? um. carmelo anthony and amar'e stoudemire.

no backup PG? okay, granted, but again that's what the MLE is for. we have the MLE and LLE to address guard depth.

¿ △ ?
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6/29/2012  12:35 AM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:keep calm peoples. i have deep knowledge of the greece and kostas nickelau is considered the michael jordan of greece!

it's not like this DJO character will come back to haunt us like Rajon Rondo or anything. That's totally not going to happen...

Kostas papanikolaou is the Maciej Lampe of Greece!
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