I think TD can step to be the a 30 minute first guard off the bench top of point guard, but we are likely ling up for Deron or Paul no doubt.

Anji wrote:

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:i'm happy with the fact we now have 2 studs to build around, the hardest part is done... finding the right role players to put around them isn't gonna be a cakewalk but still a helluva lot easier than it was getting to this point... a lot depends on what happens w/the new CBA, no one really knows what to expect... i don't think we're that far off though, a shotblocking C who can guard the paint is our only real need.

Knowing Donnie he's gonna make sure we have a few new big bodies next year.

that all depends on his willingness to sacrifice flexibility for the summer of 2012... one news report i read have the Knicks moving to buy Chauncey out of his contract this summer not to release him but to sign him to a more cap friendly longterm deal to give them more flexibility this summer to sign a C... i'd be down for that strategy if Billups doesn't keep struggling the rest of the way... if we can land a shotblocking C who can grab rebounds in the paint & add him to Stat Melo Billups & Landry that's a top 5 that most Knick fans can get excited about.

It's a small sample but I don't think we need Billups. I'd rather sign a vet to split time with TD. Maybe Earl Watson or Telfair or TJ Ford.

Most in important though is I think our coach needs to be willing to let the offense be alittle less free flowing by not caring if the center will clog the paint. Ronnie and who ever we sign at center need to be on the court. The JJ experiment is a bust IMO, we big guys to protect our big 2.

Dalmbert is probably the only decent center available who could do that this off season.

i think losing Billups would be a big loss i am not ready to trust TD as our starting PG regardless of what he showed in those few games he played while Billups was out... he's still very shaky in crunchtime when the action gets hot & heavy i don't think he yet understands how to control the pace of a game & run an offense very efficiently... i would much rather have Billups around to tutor him for another season at the very least.

i wouldn't mind Dally if we could get him for a reasonable contract but nothing that would hinder our flexibility in 2012 to make other signings... wouldn't mind Deandre Jordan either at the right price but it will probably take a bigger offer to get him away from the Clips.

Worst trades ever:
1) Spree for Keith Van Horn
2) $100 mil for Alan Houston
3) Viacom for Cablevision

crzymdups wrote:

jrodmc wrote:This thread is nothing but a lame attempt at post padding.

Worst trades ever:
1) Spree for Keith Van Horn
2) $100 mil for Alan Houston
3) Viacom for Cablevision

ha. i'd add nene and camby for mcdyess at #1, but i'm close to agreeing with your list.

can we add grunfeld for ed tapscott, too?

we have two stars now. and a chance to build around them. not a ton of assets - but that's what they said when donnie got here and within two years we were loaded with assets, despite trading away our 2009 lotto pick for cap room.

Eddie Curry?

Camby was breaking down, Nene was unknown and Dice was as legit starphuch still in his prime. There was little evidence Camby would still be playing in his 50's at such a good level. Dice has also proved durable but never achieved his high flying talent.

His injury happened to his "Good" knee".

Spree ran his ass out of town on his own behavior and good value was not to be had for him in return. Spree at that moment was Toxic. Since we got him "toxic" he came to us at very little cost when we moved players to GS for him.

KVH was not our problem.

Bad trade was Marbury and for Eddy. They killed us.

Ewing deal also hamstrung us for years.

LIke the above we won't know how good the Melo deal was until we can look back in hindsight.

knickstorrents wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:its feels like some that were against the trade are a bit happy that we are losing because they get to say i told you so.

Actually.. I'm depressed.. I enjoyed watching my Knicks play team basketball... now we get treated to brain dead isolations and garbage play. No heart. No soul. No surprises.

I will not be renewing my league pass... I got it just to watch my Knicks and I've simply lost interest. I'm sad more than anything else.

right there with you man.

if this is the new style of play all i ask is that they win the game. win the game superstars!

im tough on my superstars. i expect them to be super all the time LOL.

FoeDiddy wrote:

Michael6835 wrote:

MooK wrote:Can somebody tell me when Carmelo Anthony became a superstar?

when did gallo, chandler, felton become superstars?

Whether you like Melo or not, his stats don't lie. He's got the rest of his knick career to define his legacy.
Dude has skills!
We got 2 all-stars, 1 veteran pg. We can make some noise in the playoffs.

Melo was on Dream Team, perennial All-Star..has carried his team to 50+ wins almost every year, Won a NCAA title damn near by himself, gives Lebron fits on the offensive end..He is indeed a Superstar. Not even close..there is Kobe, Lebron, Wade and Melo just below that 3.

Melo didn't carry denver...he had very good talent around him..lebron james. Carried the cavs

fishmike wrote:Melo is a top 15 player for sure. Top 10 probably not. RIGHT NOW Kobe, Wade, Duncan, Gasol, Rose, Deron, CP3, Amare, Dirk, Dwight, Nash and KG are all better players than Melo for one reason or another.

Throw in that LeBron dude for good measure.

knickstorrents wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:its feels like some that were against the trade are a bit happy that we are losing because they get to say i told you so.

Actually.. I'm depressed.. I enjoyed watching my Knicks play team basketball... now we get treated to brain dead isolations and garbage play. No heart. No soul. No surprises.

I will not be renewing my league pass... I got it just to watch my Knicks and I've simply lost interest. I'm sad more than anything else.

Losing is no fun. This team-basketball you speak of was not fun to watch when we lost to the Clips, the Kings, the Suns and by near 30 to the Mavs at home. Its not fun watching a team jack up 30 3's a games. Not sure how old you are, but the 90's Knicks were all about the iso's. Ewing in the post. Houston on the wing. In fact, game 7 against the Pacers in 99 was all Iso for Houston down the stretch which secured a championship berth. That was not boring.

holfresh wrote:Gasol, Deron, Nash(finished), Duncan(finished), and KG are not better than Melo....I think he is on par with Dirk and might be better...

Melo is top ten...

agreed