Walker didn't show me a thing.

rookies not looking good tonite.

AR looks real skinny, and he only turns 21 tomorrow?

Half time interview with giddy russian was laughable.

The dude was nervous, but why the hell not. He was excited by the chick, he is in Vegas, and he is living a dream!!!

Nice kid, I hope he pans out. same with Jordan, and most of the kids out there.

Joey Dorsey is freaking huge. What a freak!

every team should keep a kid like that in the Dleague. Some big huge player and bring him up when they play Miami.

The king should know.

Ewing looks great, like he can give ups 10 min!

BRIGGS wrote:As of now I think fair grades as follow

Fields B his shot is not good enough for an A Needs developmental time for his jumpshot+left handed dribble but can play an opportunistic role on the NBA team.

Jordan D- has potential but has severe development ahead of him---D league weights and coaching all year
Rautins--F Just so outclassed today to the point where he would not even shoot. He mustve known it himself on the bench

Overall draft grade----D+ If you take the three best players picked after the Knicks or not picked at all and put them up against what we drafted--I cant see us being graded higher than a 67-68/100

I think you are being too hard on Rautins. The kid can shoot. Some people just take time to develop and Rautins clearly is going to need a couple of years to flesh out his game. But the kid has good court vision, is a willing defender, and ultimately should develop a solid jumpshot. Since we have an open roster spot, I would keep Rautins and Jordan and send them to the D-league for most of the year. I agree that Fields is a player and I think he could play in a game for us right now (even though he probably won't we have Chandler and Gallo). Since the Knicks don't like to use the D-league, MDA should give Fields spot minutes this year.

Ira wrote:I don't think we have to be wedded to a guy because we picked him in the second round. Very few of those guys ever make it. But it wouldn't hurt to stash him on a D League team if he shows something in the remaining SL games.

These are the guys we have under contract at this point:

Amare
Randolph
Gallinari
Chandler
Felton
Turiaf
Mosgov
Azubuike
Douglas
Curry        
These are the guys who are on the bubble:
Walker          (is his contract guaranteed at this point?) Staff liked him last year
Fields          Surprise of SL so far- seems like a lock to make it/Can he play both wings?
Jordan          Knicks paid $1M to take him/7'1"/DLeague at worst/So so SL so far
Rautins         Picked 37th/Horrible SL
Baby Ewing      Sentimental favorite/Nice SL/Much improved outside shot
Marcus Landry   With us last year/liked by staff/Decent SL/Legit swingman at SG/SF

Am I correct in saying that we can keep up to 5 from the second list, depending on whether Walsh wants to keep a full 15 and put one or two players into the DL, or will he just carry 12 or 13,cut everyone else, and not use the DL?

BRIGGS wrote:As of now I think fair grades as follow

Fields B his shot is not good enough for an A Needs developmental time for his jumpshot+left handed dribble but can play an opportunistic role on the NBA team.

Jordan D- has potential but has severe development ahead of him---D league weights and coaching all year
Rautins--F Just so outclassed today to the point where he would not even shoot. He mustve known it himself on the bench

Overall draft grade----D+ If you take the three best players picked after the Knicks or not picked at all and put them up against what we drafted--I cant see us being graded higher than a 67-68/100

I agree with this assessment. Fields seems like a marginal role player right now. I see his ceiling as Matt Barnes.

Cosmic wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:i gotta say, i am really liking what im seeing from landry fields. i think the biggest thing he's going to benefit from is the fact that he has an nba body, very good frame and he has the quickness to get by guys off the dribble and you can tell why he was a stanford guy - he's very smart out on the court, doesn't make many mistakes. i admittedly was not happy at all with drafting him because i had never heard of him and i watch a ton of college basketball but at this point, i don't know how this guy flew under the radar of so many. he definitely looks like he can step right into the rotation.

Hopefully you learned that just because you haven't heard of a guy doesn't mean he stinks.

life lessons bip.. life lessons

I have taught you a lot. And for that I should be commended.

Nobody respects a member with such a low post count.

When you reach 10,000 posts then maybe what you have to say will have meaning.

You mean, when he reaches 10,000, he can start all over again.

Paladin55 wrote:

martin wrote:Never understood the PEJ love except for the name association. Guy is 6'8". Too small for a PF. Not skilled enough for a SF. At 26, this is the first year I remember him hitting an outside jumpshot.

Actually a bit over 6'7" with his shoes, according to DrExp. Also has a spotty handle, for a SF, which is what he would have to play.

He really has shot better, though, and there are times when he does show his dad's warrior spirit.

Hope Orlando picks him up on the cheap.

I would want both Landry boys over Baby Ewing at this point.

same

Jeff Pendergraph having a real hard time getting his offense off in close against DeAndre Jordan and the big Greek Schortsanitis. Pendergraph actually has some nice touch and he plays pretty hard but he gets no lift on his shot at all in close and he's telegraphing his offense -- C-Webb all over him for not utilizing the pump fake on any of his post moves.

Marqus Blakely playing to his strengths so far -- defense, drawing charges, running the floor and finishing on alley oops..Showing little else though.

Luke Babbitt really looking a little sluggish out there for the Blazers. Looks a step slow overall, his passing is off the mark and his outside shot isn't dropping at all. Very surprising..

nyk4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Do you know how much better Omar Samhan is than Jerome Jordan? It's like night and day--one guy knows how to play basketball and can do it--the other needs 3 years of transitional training. Our drafting the last two years has been very bad and questionable overall

weren't you hyping jordan though briggs?

I actually liked Samhan but I know there wasnt a snowballs chance in hll that the Knicks would be interested--I took him in the mock draft for another team. They are both 2nd rounders for various reasons but Samhan has a much better chance of being a Brad Miller than Jordan does of well who knows. He does have potential and we did need a 7 footer--just needs a lot of work.

blkexec wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Do you know how much better Omar Samhan is than Jerome Jordan? It's like night and day--one guy knows how to play basketball and can do it--the other needs 3 years of transitional training. Our drafting the last two years has been very bad and questionable overall

And everybody got on me, when suggesting to keep Isiah as a scout....

The only good players Isiah drafted were David Lee, Wilson Chandler and Trevor Ariza. Forget about Nate. Not even worth discussing.

His drafting in NY was mediocre at best with Channing Frye, Renaldo Balkman, Mardy Collins, Demetris Nichols, and Nate Robinson.

Plus this guy will never accept being a scout. His ego is too big for it. Having him in the organization will be poision. He will undermine the current regime since he is so close to James Dolan.