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12/24/2003  7:02 AM
I was wrong about Chaney staying on and helping this team in some capacity this yr he did a ok job last yr with less bodies, but what I don't understand is TKF is the only one who saw the game I saw. Minny didn't show anything to prove they would get out the 1st rd thius yr. Spree is classless like Dolan has said and the knicks are a better team than the record they now have. Zeke has to see what I and other see.
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12/24/2003  8:55 AM
Posted by playa2:

I was wrong about Chaney staying on and helping this team in some capacity this yr he did a ok job last yr with less bodies, but what I don't understand is TKF is the only one who saw the game I saw. Minny didn't show anything to prove they would get out the 1st rd thius yr. Spree is classless like Dolan has said and the knicks are a better team than the record they now have. Zeke has to see what I and other see.
Bravo Playa. I agree with your POST 100%.
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12/24/2003  9:03 AM
Okay, let's see...

I said that if KG was on last night that Spree would score between 25-35 points. He scored 31. However, he didn't get a dunk last night either. I wanted to see him punctuate his feelings about having been traded with an emphatic dunk.

The way he punked Dolan was hilarious. All Dolan could do is make little gestures and stick his tongue out at Spree. He let Dolan have it and only Lon Krueger tried to calm matters. No one else on the team had the nuts to man up to Spree because they reflect the identity change the Knicks have underwent. To think that Dolan actually had the nerve to say to the Knicks players that "you better win" (if it was true) is pathetic. The team no longer has that tough edge that would help them pull out close games or stand up for themselves or their teammates. Allan Houston made his comments in the safety of the locker room, but didn't have a damned thing to say when it was happening. The press that hates spree (90% of the NY Post writers and Bitch Lawrence from the Daily News) all made their petty comments after the fact, but they are taking shots in the dark. It got to the point where the media actually had to lie and say that Spree was cussing out fans when his beef was really with Dolan, and that the fans booed Spree at the end of the game. I was at the game, and at the end the fans were booing the Knicks and yelling about firing Chaney. Sometimes those spin doctors' clandestine tactics are as plain as day.

I am sure that I am not the only one who feels like saying "F*** you, motherf***er!!!"to Dolan like Spree did.
Spree always seemed to speak about management the same way that fans with sense have. He kept it consistent last night. He proved his point not only on the court, but out of his mouth too. Spree talked it and backed it up. Who on the current roster has the balls and fire to do that? How far this team has fallen.

While at the game last night, I saw more Spree jerseys than anything else. Spike Lee included. Maybe it was that kind of love for him in the building that helped him score 31 (by the way, the most points scored by a ex-knick player playing their first game at MSG after leaving the team). So much for all the jabberjawed idiots that swore that Spree would be shut down.

Hopefully, last night's loss will help speed up the process of getting Chaney the hell outta here as well as trading some of these soft players. Isaiah surely can't be pleased with the embarrassment last night. I can't wait to see what changes he makes to restore the respectability, guts and nuts to this team. He needs to get cracking on that ASAP and not let Dolan's senseless rants about the playoffs this year slow the progress (of rebuilding).

Lastly, this one is for all the Spree Haters...



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12/24/2003  9:28 AM
Posted by playa2:

I was wrong about Chaney staying on and helping this team in some capacity this yr he did a ok job last yr with less bodies, but what I don't understand is TKF is the only one who saw the game I saw. Minny didn't show anything to prove they would get out the 1st rd thius yr. Spree is classless like Dolan has said and the knicks are a better team than the record they now have. Zeke has to see what I and other see.

Okay... Playa finally admits he was wrong about Chaney. Bravo.

As for the game, Minny has the guns to get over the 1st round this year IMO. Spree told Dolan exactly what myself and the majority of fans wanted to tell him. I am not even trying to hear all the crap about "class". The Knicks used to have "class". Now we get punked out like we did last night. The fans are so disgusted that the Knicks get repeatedly booed off the court at home games. Is our 10-19 record "classy"?? How can anyone even let some mess like that even come up when we're NINE GAMES UNDER .500? Please.

Hey, did anyone see how Spree bumped KVH after the game, still talking? Spree laughed in Keith's face like Keith was a joke. I get the joke too- the Knicks are a eunuch squad. What used to be a fiery, agressive, never-say-die winning team is now a timid, passive, hopeless, broken-spirited losing heap of jello...
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12/24/2003  9:30 AM
Posted by playa2:

I was wrong about Chaney staying on and helping this team in some capacity this yr he did a ok job last yr with less bodies, but what I don't understand is TKF is the only one who saw the game I saw. Minny didn't show anything to prove they would get out the 1st rd thius yr. Spree is classless like Dolan has said and the knicks are a better team than the record they now have. Zeke has to see what I and other see.
There, he said it! Chaney is a bad coach and shouldn't be here anymore. Spree might have no class but he won this game and I would rather have someone like that than someone like KVH who didn't score towards the end! (Except Rasheed who is someone that shows no class and no regard for law and etiquettes)
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12/24/2003  10:25 AM
Spree had a great game. Last time we played Minn. he had a terrible game. His combined stats for the two games are so-so at best. He played on the better team and they split the two games. I really don't think head to head Spree proved anything. We know he's a good player we know he's inconsistent - he showed both.

Overall my view hasn't changed. He's a good player. He's fun to watch. He's probably a good team mate but a tough guy to coach. Overall, he will be missed most for his entertainment value. He's not good enough to make a bad team good and he's probably good enough to be the third best player on a real contender.

It's interesting that the folks that love him dismissed the first game. The folks that hate him dismiss last night. I guess I'm in the middle.
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12/24/2003  11:07 AM
Pro spree, anti knick all about the same thing now.

If Spree was still here, we'd still be losing. IT ain't like really would have made a difference here.

Its like "Poor misunderstood Spree"!

He "punked" anyone with a little boy Spree uniform on also. He punked Spike. Dolan Punks the fans with false prophets, and Spree punked the uniform and the garden.

Some of you really love that spree antiestablishment gig. He gets 12mil a year and you pay your had worked money to go see wuss ass knicks get punked by egocentrical mental midget. Sounds like a wrestling match, the bad man woops up on the clean goody goody character and the fans go crazy. Then at some point the bad man does something really bad and eventually meets revenge by the goody goody dude.

This is low brow Rodman stuff. Gets boring after a while. Last nite, everybody lost.

Except Playa, whom it appears had a revalation! See the light brother!


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12/24/2003  12:39 PM
Posted by Nedyal1:

Pro spree, anti knick all about the same thing now.
That statement sir, was ignorant. Spree helped this team a helluva lot more as a player then ya boy LayDown did as GM You are a LayDown fan and an alleged Knicks fan. What does that say about you?

If Spree was still here, we'd still be losing. IT ain't like really would have made a difference here.
We sure would not be losing as much if Spree was here. We were better last year with supposedly less.

Its like "Poor misunderstood Spree"!
That's significantly easier to say than "Poor misunderstood LayDown" which was your motto up until your boy got chopped.

He "punked" anyone with a little boy Spree uniform on also. He punked Spike.
If he doesn't feel that way, and those with the Spree jerseys on don't look at it that way, umm... where does your opinion matter at all? Those who happen to like Spree don't really care what anyone says or thinks about it.

Dolan Punks the fans with false prophets, and Spree punked the uniform and the garden.
So since you are LayDown's most loyal disciple, I guess Dolan punked you. By the way, Spree punked the haters too. I gues you went 2-for-2 last night. LOL

Some of you really love that spree antiestablishment gig.
If one can identify, then get in where you fit in. That "some" is a whole lot of people.

He gets 12mil a year and you pay your had worked money to go see wuss ass knicks get punked by egocentrical mental midget. Sounds like a wrestling match, the bad man woops up on the clean goody goody character and the fans go crazy. Then at some point the bad man does something really bad and eventually meets revenge by the goody goody dude.
Wow, sounds like a real Knicks fan talking.

This is low brow Rodman stuff. Gets boring after a while. Last nite, everybody lost.
Correction: the Timberwolves won.
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12/24/2003  1:38 PM
When you retort is based on Laydog (why do you think I call him that? and when ever have you seen any of my posts complimenting him, except when ridding our squad of your favorite mental midget) then I know I have won my arguement.

We as fans lost. Im sure you and smack taking internet tough guys dig the act, we hanging in the good seats, or the suits, really don't care for the primal rage ball grabbing savage thing. Your Smack talking act of keeping it real, real dumb is a hoot sometimes, but real dumb.

The suits are the ones whom buy the most expensive seats, buy advertising on the network, rent the boxes, etc, Get it? Little boys in Spree pajama's are emotional fans whom convert the darth vader act of dolan or bust on Laydog to vent the frustration. That is why wrestling is so popular, and why so many movies made for the masses always have the good guy winning. You know, the bad guy vs. the good guy. This Spree vs. Layden or Dolan is so easy for you.

The suits, sure like winning also. Suits run companies and win themselves. Suits somtimes try to figure out the problem. Little boy pajama fans like to blame things on characters. Kind of like cartoons. yeah hardcore, its easy to blame someone than try to digest the facts. Your gig is cute sometimes, but when your a suit, then you'll understand. YOu accuse me of being in his (laydog's) court, when all I have done is try to figure out where he is going. I would also find it interesting to see what can be salvaged from this mess, where you have stated everybody should go.

If you think im Laydens boy, then your comprehension is way off.

But you got "Isiahs back!" Man that is still the funniest line yet.

Funny thing, we agree on about most issues except you just love the banter. And we just keep on keeping on it.

Merry X-mas. If I knew you better, I'd send you a KVH pajama set to where at a game sometime. They all soft and cuddly jammies too. They go nice with Spree saves the world sheets and blanket set in your room.
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12/24/2003  2:22 PM
Posted by Nedyal1:

When you retort is based on Laydog (why do you think I call him that? and when ever have you seen any of my posts complimenting him, except when ridding our squad of your favorite mental midget) then I know I have won my arguement.
If that's what you have to make yourself believe in order to get yourself through the day or to sleep at night, go right ahead. I made a comparison od Spree and LayDown. I thought that if I simplified the logic you'd finally get it. I guess not.


We as fans lost.
The fans lost when Spree got traded. Where have you been?

Im sure you and smack taking internet tough guys dig the act, we hanging in the good seats, or the suits, really don't care for the primal rage ball grabbing savage thing.
So you're a suit? No one is impressed here, fella. Oh, and next time you want to look at the meaning of savage, maybe you oughtta take another look at our roster and our record. Maybe that suit of yours is too tight up you azz. Pull the wedgie out, son.

Your Smack talking act of keeping it real, real dumb is a hoot sometimes, but real dumb.
Isn't it a wonderful thing that your baseless opinions have no impact in this world. Yes, God is good.

The suits are the ones whom buy the most expensive seats, buy advertising on the network, rent the boxes, etc, Get it?
I don't give a damn about the suits in those seats. I am talking about the REAL fans when I talk about Knicks fans.

Little boys in Spree pajama's are emotional fans whom convert the darth vader act of dolan or bust on Laydog to vent the frustration.
In your insignificant little world, that may be true. But in the real world, those indiviuals bring revenue. Those are the ones the "suits" want to market their products and services to. The more you try to pass yourself off as smart, the more you expose your own ignorance. If you're so "knowedgeable", I would not have to break down basic business to you in Lego blocks like this.

That is why wrestling is so popular, and why so many movies made for the masses always have the good guy winning. You know, the bad guy vs. the good guy. This Spree vs. Layden or Dolan is so easy for you.
Yes, it is easy for me. Basic things usually are, but why are those simplistic things so difficult for you to understand?

The suits, sure like winning also. Suits run companies and win themselves. Suits somtimes try to figure out the problem. Little boy pajama fans like to blame things on characters.
Real fans blame who needs to be held accountable. Once again, please pull the wedgie out. Don't do it for me, do it for the postas on this board.

Kind of like cartoons. yeah hardcore, its easy to blame someone than try to digest the facts.
See, that's where you got it twisted. Real fans digest the facts FIRST, then distribute blame and praise accordingly.

Your gig is cute sometimes, but when your a suit, then you'll understand.
I have suits, but I would rather wear my Knicks gear to games. That's what real fans do if you have yet to be briefed on this by your boss.

YOu accuse me of being in his (laydog's) court, when all I have done is try to figure out where he is going. I would also find it interesting to see what can be salvaged from this mess, where you have stated everybody should go.
I told you where he was going and he's gone there (OUT of MSG). Like previously stated, why would you rack your brain trying to find a complex answer to a simple issue. As for salvaging, that is what was done by getting LayDown outta here in the first place. You want all these fractions and I had already reduced the equation to the lowest common denominator. LayDown had to go. He's Gone.

If you think im Laydens boy, then your comprehension is way off.
Enyone who posted on this board since you started knows how you defended LayDown. Stop trying to wiggle out of it. Postas have to already deal with Playa's flip-flopping and are hip to the game.

But you got "Isiahs back!" Man that is still the funniest line yet.
Laugh on. I Still have Isaiah's back. I hope he improves the team. What Knicks fan isn't in favor of the team improving?

Funny thing, we agree on about most issues except you just love the banter. And we just keep on keeping on it.
Man, you banter much more than me. I get my points across in a concise way, quick and to the point.


Merry X-mas. If I knew you better, I'd send you a KVH pajama set to where at a game sometime. They all soft and cuddly jammies too. They go nice with Spree saves the world sheets and blanket set in your room.
LOL Those KVH jammies have nothing on the autographed Scott LayDown footie pajamas of yours with the built-in diaper. You can pull them way up so they ride up your azzcrack like that suit does, and wear them to the game.

Merry X-mas to you too, Nedyal...
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12/24/2003  2:38 PM
spree acted like a classless idiot tonight, after getting his ass handed to him last game by Houston and the knicks, he was parading around tonight like a little kid... Good for him but I must say Casell killed us more than he did. I hope he enjoyed tonight because the wolves are going nowhere in the west anyway. I like spree and I would say I am suprised by this ridiculous behavior but he did the same thing as a knick Vs the warriors... why doesn't he just move on and behave like a professional..?


TKF, well said. If this had been any Ref. Spree was spewing at the outcome would have been different. Now owners are subjected to this kind showmanship ? Makes me wonder if Commissioner Stern will add any comments
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12/25/2003  11:04 AM
Hard,

I have no boss.

Real fans vs. Suits. Suits suck as fans in general, but they sure do spend alot on season tickets, rent boxes, etc. Try to understand how it works, not just in your little world.

Your defense is weak, this argument is old and tired. Your points are valid, your editorial smacking others is obnoxious. Mine is too.

Time to move on my man..............
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12/25/2003  11:31 AM
Posted by Nedyal1:

Hard,

I have no boss.
I see that barb pricked you, huh?

Real fans vs. Suits. Suits suck as fans in general, but they sure do spend alot on season tickets, rent boxes, etc. Try to understand how it works, not just in your little world.
Like anyone really needs you to share the coveted secrets of the function of the suits in the Garden. Thanks anyway but that info is public domain.

Your defense is weak, this argument is old and tired.
Wrong, and right, respectively. If you don't start it, I won't have to finish it.

Your points are valid, your editorial smacking others is obnoxious. Mine is too.
I give it how I get it. The only ones who get smacked are the ones who request it, like you do so often. If things are kept civil, then I never have a problem doing the same. Once someone thinks they can get snotty, then it's time for their snotbox to get rocked.

Time to move on my man..............
Wasn't that the agreement over a month ago? By the way, I see you changed the name back again... LOL

Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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