Wow!

The ship be sinking.

Perimeter players pretty much suck. Q is useless, Crawford sucks, Marbury sucks, Mardy can't shoot from the outside Nate is a sideshow. If I were GS is would totally disrespect the Knicks outside shooting and double and triple down on any post player the KNicks have.

Posted by nixluva:

This is BRUTAL! I can't believe what i'm seeing. No energy, no execution or continuity, no motion and NO COACHING!!! What is Isiah doing? I see no adjustments being made from the bench. The team looks lost and without a clue. I don't care how bad you think the players are, there's no way that a well coached team looks like this. Where are the pick and rolls, the curls, the give and go. Where's the proper spacing. Where's the aggressiveness on offense and the fluidity. Guys look stiff and scared to just play.

Isiah sat there and did nothing while the team was being embarrased. I can't defend a performance like that. This team is NOT THIS BAD on it own. We've seen the team play better so I don't want to here that it's the players.

In the 1st 3 games, our team looked completely different. We were confident and moving quickly on offense. The TO's were low, but for whatever reason things have just fallen apart. You have to look at a coach when that happens.

Really? Isiah? You're gonna blame Isiah?

Posted by nixluva:

This is BRUTAL! I can't believe what i'm seeing. No energy, no execution or continuity, no motion and NO COACHING!!! What is Isiah doing? I see no adjustments being made from the bench. The team looks lost and without a clue. I don't care how bad you think the players are, there's no way that a well coached team looks like this. Where are the pick and rolls, the curls, the give and go. Where's the proper spacing. Where's the aggressiveness on offense and the fluidity. Guys look stiff and scared to just play.

Isiah sat there and did nothing while the team was being embarrased. I can't defend a performance like that. This team is NOT THIS BAD on it own. We've seen the team play better so I don't want to here that it's the players.

In the 1st 3 games, our team looked completely different. We were confident and moving quickly on offense. The TO's were low, but for whatever reason things have just fallen apart. You have to look at a coach when that happens.

You are slowly opening the eyes. Its no longer a matter of having good of bad players. We've reached a point where the negativity has caught up with us and the terrible stretch will simply not end, not even with a win. This is a matter of the NBA convincing Dolan to give up his power, get a man that does know how to manage a franchise like this one and start the revolution. Isiah has no future in NY. Its already a mistake to keep him in charge of coaching and getting players.

He has to go because he has reached a point where he is just trying to see what can give him a little bit of hope. The Marbury demotion was a huge mistake no matter if Stephon deserved it. The handle of Marbury's AWOL thing was pathetic. Putting him back in the starting lineup just proves that he really has no plan and no idea what to do.

ISIAH IS SILENTLY PLEADING TO BE FIRED. Even if he deserved the hell he is getting, we have to think for the good of the Knicks and let him go. I can't believe I'm still rooting for a franchise that has so many idiot people running it. Dolan has to put the team in someone else's hands or step down...

Posted by bitty41:

Okay is there any doubt that this team is pretty much mailing it in every game.

I don't think any team would be in "mail it in" mode 10 games into a 82 game season. The Knicks play better (not good) when they have a lead, are going back and forth, or only a few points behind. When they can't stop a team or stop them from extending, they just implode. Yes, it's the players but it's also that predictable offense they run. Zach and Curry won't pass out of double/triple teams. Curry wont defend or rebound.......and why is Q still starting? If you want to keep Lee coming off the bench then start Chandler, he will do as much if not more than Q is giving us.

I think Q still starts for the same reason he started under Larry. He continues to be one of the only guys that gives a damn

You know what, just fire Isiah and start this 5 the rest of the way:

C- Morris
PF- Lee
SF- Balkman
SG- Chandler
PG- Robinson

The season is a waste with Isiah anyway...

Posted by Knicksfan:

You know what, just fire Isiah and start this 5 the rest of the way:

C- Morris
PF- Lee
SF- Balkman
SG- Chandler
PG- Robinson

The season is a waste with Isiah anyway...

It's funny cuz some people want to make it sound like we don't ave any players on this team worth keeping and to me that's not true. They may not be superstars, but GS shows you that you don't need superstars to play some good ball.
The kids Isiah has brought in need good coaching and a stable atmosphere. You think any one of those guys you listed wouldn't be more productive in the right situation? Lee, Balk and Chandler are good young players caught up in a bad situation. I think they care and want to play hard.

I just want to see this team play up to it's potential and I KNOW that this recent stretch is not it. Isiah had 2 days to work with this team and get them ready and they looked horrible. He looked horrible. GS wasn't even playing well and he couldn't figure out how to get his team out of it's funk.

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by nixluva:

It's funny cuz some people want to make it sound like we don't ave any players on this team worth keeping and to me that's not true. They may not be superstars, but GS shows you that you don't need superstars to play some good ball.
The kids Isiah has brought in need good coaching and a stable atmosphere. You think any one of those guys you listed wouldn't be more productive in the right situation? Lee, Balk and Chandler are good young players caught up in a bad situation. I think they care and want to play hard.

I just want to see this team play up to it's potential and I KNOW that this recent stretch is not it. Isiah had 2 days to work with this team and get them ready and they looked horrible. He looked horrible. GS wasn't even playing well and he couldn't figure out how to get his team out of it's funk.

Nobody thinks an 0-7 run is the best this team is capable of, but nor is it the worst (as we'll probably witness in the next few days), so please, stop pretending we're witnessing something beyond the realm or normalcy here. Wild mood swings and dire plummets have totally characterized Isiah's term here. Does 33, 23, 33 ring a bell?

But if you want to proclaim it was Lenny's fault, Herb's fault, Larry's fault, and now Isiah the coach's but not the GM's fault, and never the team's fault, go for it.

Just don't be surprised if everyone doesn't join your bandwagon when our season peaks with a month of .500 ball followed by another precipitous drop.

Man there is a way to play this team and get more out of it than we've seen so far. Just cuz Isiah has mucked it up, doesn't mean that there's no proper use of the players we have. I'm not saying that we don't need changes or improvements, cuz obviously we do, but i've seen this very same group play better and I don't agree with the way this team is being run. We're playing so timid and out of synch right now. It doesn't look like Dolan will fire Isiah, so he's got to find a way to use these players better. He was terrible tonight. No one can look at this game and not see that the team was lost. They didn't know what they were doing. Guys were bumping into each other and posting on the same side of the court. Jamal and the other perimeter players were caught just standing in place and there were no cutters or any motion that would create room for our offense to operate. That's a coaching problem. For whatever reason he's not gotten thru to this team.

Also he's refusing to play guys that might have given the team a lift. How long was he going to sit there and just watch the team fail to execute?