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7/13/2007  11:45 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Cash:

I could care less that Zach and Curry are friends. I am Soley concerned about what works on the court. Common sense tells me they don't complement each other as well as other players could complement a player like Curry OR a player like Zach.

Thats not the point. Thepoint is Curry is a good guy who is friends with Zach and its doubtful anything like that came from him. Berman is a paid hack who makes his living printing garbage. Sometimes true. Sometimes not.

Curry's camp is more than likely his agent. Curry isn't that far removed from opting out and from a statistical point of view Zach will eat into Curry's production taking away some of his bargaining power. One thing I have noticed is that outside of Marbury and to a lesser extent Q no Knick has really came out publicly and spoken in any kind of depth about the trade.
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7/13/2007  11:49 PM
Marc Berman is Marburys hack. Marbury has Berman in his pocket. As long as Berman shows bias for players that give him inside quotes and bias against players who do not give him inside quotes he has no credibility.

This is nothing new for the post. Larry Brooks had the same deal with Bobby Holik.
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7/13/2007  11:55 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Cash:

Two things that I thought were interesting about this.

1.) From the Berman blog:
1. Was very amused that Knicks trotted out Mark Aguirre in the fourth quarter on their MSG Network telecast to rave about Curry's conditioning. It looked like a preemptive strike, knowing that a critical column on Curry being a no-show at the Las Vegas workouts was forthcoming. Aguirre said Curry is "way ahead of schedule.'' Actually when I spoke to Aguirre two weeks ago, he said Curry wouldn't start real serious conditioning until mid-July.

2. The statement from Curry's camp about how Isiah needs to figure out how this will work.

I'm hopeful after a full season of Isiah coaching Eddy Curry personally and Isiah knowing that he will have to deal with the consequences of how he sets up the team in the future because he personally will be coaching it(and can't just dump his team that fits together terribly on someone else) he is more mindful of how things
work.

I'm hopeful that Isiah is now selling other gm's instead of selling us knicks fans. I'm hoping that Curry is on his way out, and that Aquire is just covering.

Cash why would you assume Berman is being honest about anything?
He has showed in the past how biased he is and that makes his credibility nill.

Who is Currys camp? I didnt know Curry had a "camp" An unidentified quote from Berman? That carries no weight. In my opinion Berman just like Larry Brooks whenever he wants to say something he just makes up an imaginary unidentified source. I know the Post is a tabloid and Berman is far from a reporter but he couldnt get a job at the Star or the Globe with his nonsense.

Zach and Curry are friends off the court.

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories? Especially concerning an organization that is as media conscious as the Knicks and who are more than willing to be vengeful towards people they think did them wrong?

You think being biased (funny how you don't mention reporters like Howard Beck, that are biased towards Isiah) ruins credibility? Fabricating stories completely destroys careers.

LOL You think everything the NY Post prints is true? Peter Vescey must love guys like you.

Berman is not a Reporter. He is a columnist. Reporters are supposed to report the truth. Columnists give there opinions.

Berman is a NY Knicks beat reporter, not a beat columnist.

You're suggesting that Berman is lying about what Aguirre had told him previously about Curry's workout schedule. That's not the same as printing trade rumors or the such. I think it would be pretty damn stupid for a beat reporter to fabricate things that the Knicks can easily verify before completely shutting that reporter out and damage his career.

And Vecsey is a columnist, not a reporter.
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7/13/2007  11:56 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Marc Berman is Marburys hack. Marbury has Berman in his pocket. As long as Berman shows bias for players that give him inside quotes and bias against players who do not give him inside quotes he has no credibility.

This is nothing new for the post. Larry Brooks had the same deal with Bobby Holik.

As does Howard Beck with Isiah.

Biased is one thing. Fabricating stories is quite another. I wish you understood the difference.
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7/13/2007  11:56 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Cash:

Two things that I thought were interesting about this.

1.) From the Berman blog:
1. Was very amused that Knicks trotted out Mark Aguirre in the fourth quarter on their MSG Network telecast to rave about Curry's conditioning. It looked like a preemptive strike, knowing that a critical column on Curry being a no-show at the Las Vegas workouts was forthcoming. Aguirre said Curry is "way ahead of schedule.'' Actually when I spoke to Aguirre two weeks ago, he said Curry wouldn't start real serious conditioning until mid-July.

2. The statement from Curry's camp about how Isiah needs to figure out how this will work.

I'm hopeful after a full season of Isiah coaching Eddy Curry personally and Isiah knowing that he will have to deal with the consequences of how he sets up the team in the future because he personally will be coaching it(and can't just dump his team that fits together terribly on someone else) he is more mindful of how things
work.

I'm hopeful that Isiah is now selling other gm's instead of selling us knicks fans. I'm hoping that Curry is on his way out, and that Aquire is just covering.

Cash why would you assume Berman is being honest about anything?
He has showed in the past how biased he is and that makes his credibility nill.

Who is Currys camp? I didnt know Curry had a "camp" An unidentified quote from Berman? That carries no weight. In my opinion Berman just like Larry Brooks whenever he wants to say something he just makes up an imaginary unidentified source. I know the Post is a tabloid and Berman is far from a reporter but he couldnt get a job at the Star or the Globe with his nonsense.

Zach and Curry are friends off the court.

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories? Especially concerning an organization that is as media conscious as the Knicks and who are more than willing to be vengeful towards people they think did them wrong?

You think being biased (funny how you don't mention reporters like Howard Beck, that are biased towards Isiah) ruins credibility? Fabricating stories completely destroys careers.

LOL, ask Latrell. Berman never proved whether the boat story was true. The post lawyers said that Sprewell and his people couldn't prove that someone told him that story or not, so Sprewell couldn't prove that he it was defamation of character with malicious intent. The Daily News and Times blasted him and the Post for not supporting the story. I am still waiting for support for that story but as he said I guess he doesn't need it to support it.
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7/13/2007  11:58 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Cash:

Two things that I thought were interesting about this.

1.) From the Berman blog:
1. Was very amused that Knicks trotted out Mark Aguirre in the fourth quarter on their MSG Network telecast to rave about Curry's conditioning. It looked like a preemptive strike, knowing that a critical column on Curry being a no-show at the Las Vegas workouts was forthcoming. Aguirre said Curry is "way ahead of schedule.'' Actually when I spoke to Aguirre two weeks ago, he said Curry wouldn't start real serious conditioning until mid-July.

2. The statement from Curry's camp about how Isiah needs to figure out how this will work.

I'm hopeful after a full season of Isiah coaching Eddy Curry personally and Isiah knowing that he will have to deal with the consequences of how he sets up the team in the future because he personally will be coaching it(and can't just dump his team that fits together terribly on someone else) he is more mindful of how things
work.

I'm hopeful that Isiah is now selling other gm's instead of selling us knicks fans. I'm hoping that Curry is on his way out, and that Aquire is just covering.

Cash why would you assume Berman is being honest about anything?
He has showed in the past how biased he is and that makes his credibility nill.

Who is Currys camp? I didnt know Curry had a "camp" An unidentified quote from Berman? That carries no weight. In my opinion Berman just like Larry Brooks whenever he wants to say something he just makes up an imaginary unidentified source. I know the Post is a tabloid and Berman is far from a reporter but he couldnt get a job at the Star or the Globe with his nonsense.

Zach and Curry are friends off the court.

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories? Especially concerning an organization that is as media conscious as the Knicks and who are more than willing to be vengeful towards people they think did them wrong?

You think being biased (funny how you don't mention reporters like Howard Beck, that are biased towards Isiah) ruins credibility? Fabricating stories completely destroys careers.

LOL, ask Latrell. Berman never proved whether the boat story was true. The post lawyers said that Sprewell and his people couldn't prove that someone told him that story or not, so Sprewell couldn't prove that he it was defamation of character with malicious intent. The Daily News and Times blasted him and the Post for not supporting the story. I am still waiting for support for that story but as he said I guess he doesn't need it to support it.

So what are you saying? That there was no evidence that Berman fabricated a story?

Thanks.
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7/14/2007  12:02 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Cash:

Two things that I thought were interesting about this.

1.) From the Berman blog:
1. Was very amused that Knicks trotted out Mark Aguirre in the fourth quarter on their MSG Network telecast to rave about Curry's conditioning. It looked like a preemptive strike, knowing that a critical column on Curry being a no-show at the Las Vegas workouts was forthcoming. Aguirre said Curry is "way ahead of schedule.'' Actually when I spoke to Aguirre two weeks ago, he said Curry wouldn't start real serious conditioning until mid-July.

2. The statement from Curry's camp about how Isiah needs to figure out how this will work.

I'm hopeful after a full season of Isiah coaching Eddy Curry personally and Isiah knowing that he will have to deal with the consequences of how he sets up the team in the future because he personally will be coaching it(and can't just dump his team that fits together terribly on someone else) he is more mindful of how things
work.

I'm hopeful that Isiah is now selling other gm's instead of selling us knicks fans. I'm hoping that Curry is on his way out, and that Aquire is just covering.

Cash why would you assume Berman is being honest about anything?
He has showed in the past how biased he is and that makes his credibility nill.

Who is Currys camp? I didnt know Curry had a "camp" An unidentified quote from Berman? That carries no weight. In my opinion Berman just like Larry Brooks whenever he wants to say something he just makes up an imaginary unidentified source. I know the Post is a tabloid and Berman is far from a reporter but he couldnt get a job at the Star or the Globe with his nonsense.

Zach and Curry are friends off the court.

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories? Especially concerning an organization that is as media conscious as the Knicks and who are more than willing to be vengeful towards people they think did them wrong?

You think being biased (funny how you don't mention reporters like Howard Beck, that are biased towards Isiah) ruins credibility? Fabricating stories completely destroys careers.

LOL, ask Latrell. Berman never proved whether the boat story was true. The post lawyers said that Sprewell and his people couldn't prove that someone told him that story or not, so Sprewell couldn't prove that he it was defamation of character with malicious intent. The Daily News and Times blasted him and the Post for not supporting the story. I am still waiting for support for that story but as he said I guess he doesn't need it to support it.

So what are you saying? That there was no evidence that Berman fabricated a story?

Thanks.

OK Isles let me ask you a question.

If Marc Berman writes something in the paper does that mean it is true? Yes or no?
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7/14/2007  12:06 AM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Cash:

Two things that I thought were interesting about this.

1.) From the Berman blog:
1. Was very amused that Knicks trotted out Mark Aguirre in the fourth quarter on their MSG Network telecast to rave about Curry's conditioning. It looked like a preemptive strike, knowing that a critical column on Curry being a no-show at the Las Vegas workouts was forthcoming. Aguirre said Curry is "way ahead of schedule.'' Actually when I spoke to Aguirre two weeks ago, he said Curry wouldn't start real serious conditioning until mid-July.

2. The statement from Curry's camp about how Isiah needs to figure out how this will work.

I'm hopeful after a full season of Isiah coaching Eddy Curry personally and Isiah knowing that he will have to deal with the consequences of how he sets up the team in the future because he personally will be coaching it(and can't just dump his team that fits together terribly on someone else) he is more mindful of how things
work.

I'm hopeful that Isiah is now selling other gm's instead of selling us knicks fans. I'm hoping that Curry is on his way out, and that Aquire is just covering.

Cash why would you assume Berman is being honest about anything?
He has showed in the past how biased he is and that makes his credibility nill.

Who is Currys camp? I didnt know Curry had a "camp" An unidentified quote from Berman? That carries no weight. In my opinion Berman just like Larry Brooks whenever he wants to say something he just makes up an imaginary unidentified source. I know the Post is a tabloid and Berman is far from a reporter but he couldnt get a job at the Star or the Globe with his nonsense.

Zach and Curry are friends off the court.

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories? Especially concerning an organization that is as media conscious as the Knicks and who are more than willing to be vengeful towards people they think did them wrong?

You think being biased (funny how you don't mention reporters like Howard Beck, that are biased towards Isiah) ruins credibility? Fabricating stories completely destroys careers.

LOL, ask Latrell. Berman never proved whether the boat story was true. The post lawyers said that Sprewell and his people couldn't prove that someone told him that story or not, so Sprewell couldn't prove that he it was defamation of character with malicious intent. The Daily News and Times blasted him and the Post for not supporting the story. I am still waiting for support for that story but as he said I guess he doesn't need it to support it.

So what are you saying? That there was no evidence that Berman fabricated a story?

Thanks.

OK Isles let me ask you a question.

If Marc Berman writes something in the paper does that mean it is true? Yes or no?

I think it means that he believes it to be true when he writes it. Be it personal knowledge or from sources that he believes to be reliable.

I don't think he just makes crap up and prints it the way you do.
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7/14/2007  12:10 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Cash:

Two things that I thought were interesting about this.

1.) From the Berman blog:
1. Was very amused that Knicks trotted out Mark Aguirre in the fourth quarter on their MSG Network telecast to rave about Curry's conditioning. It looked like a preemptive strike, knowing that a critical column on Curry being a no-show at the Las Vegas workouts was forthcoming. Aguirre said Curry is "way ahead of schedule.'' Actually when I spoke to Aguirre two weeks ago, he said Curry wouldn't start real serious conditioning until mid-July.

2. The statement from Curry's camp about how Isiah needs to figure out how this will work.

I'm hopeful after a full season of Isiah coaching Eddy Curry personally and Isiah knowing that he will have to deal with the consequences of how he sets up the team in the future because he personally will be coaching it(and can't just dump his team that fits together terribly on someone else) he is more mindful of how things
work.

I'm hopeful that Isiah is now selling other gm's instead of selling us knicks fans. I'm hoping that Curry is on his way out, and that Aquire is just covering.

Cash why would you assume Berman is being honest about anything?
He has showed in the past how biased he is and that makes his credibility nill.

Who is Currys camp? I didnt know Curry had a "camp" An unidentified quote from Berman? That carries no weight. In my opinion Berman just like Larry Brooks whenever he wants to say something he just makes up an imaginary unidentified source. I know the Post is a tabloid and Berman is far from a reporter but he couldnt get a job at the Star or the Globe with his nonsense.

Zach and Curry are friends off the court.

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories? Especially concerning an organization that is as media conscious as the Knicks and who are more than willing to be vengeful towards people they think did them wrong?

You think being biased (funny how you don't mention reporters like Howard Beck, that are biased towards Isiah) ruins credibility? Fabricating stories completely destroys careers.

LOL, ask Latrell. Berman never proved whether the boat story was true. The post lawyers said that Sprewell and his people couldn't prove that someone told him that story or not, so Sprewell couldn't prove that he it was defamation of character with malicious intent. The Daily News and Times blasted him and the Post for not supporting the story. I am still waiting for support for that story but as he said I guess he doesn't need it to support it.

So what are you saying? That there was no evidence that Berman fabricated a story?

Thanks.

OK Isles let me ask you a question.

If Marc Berman writes something in the paper does that mean it is true? Yes or no?

I think it means that he believes it to be true when he writes it. Be it personal knowledge or from sources that he believes to be reliable.

I don't think he just makes crap up and prints it the way you do.

Really? so his opinions as a Columnist are facts? And our opinions are just made up?

Did you think Berman was telling the truth when he said "Curry, meanwhile, will enjoy New Orleans next February in the main event of All-Star weekend. Bank on it."

Oh damn hurry up and back track, lol.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-14-2007 12:11 AM]
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7/14/2007  12:11 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by islesfan:

Come on, if his wife is "understanding" enough to watch him knock up multiple different women, I think she would understand if they had to postpone a vacation for a couple of days.

what the world needs is more understanding.

LOL...funniest thing I've read all day!


[Edited by - minsheartsreezy on 07-14-2007 12:16 AM]
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7/14/2007  12:22 AM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Cash:

Two things that I thought were interesting about this.

1.) From the Berman blog:
1. Was very amused that Knicks trotted out Mark Aguirre in the fourth quarter on their MSG Network telecast to rave about Curry's conditioning. It looked like a preemptive strike, knowing that a critical column on Curry being a no-show at the Las Vegas workouts was forthcoming. Aguirre said Curry is "way ahead of schedule.'' Actually when I spoke to Aguirre two weeks ago, he said Curry wouldn't start real serious conditioning until mid-July.

2. The statement from Curry's camp about how Isiah needs to figure out how this will work.

I'm hopeful after a full season of Isiah coaching Eddy Curry personally and Isiah knowing that he will have to deal with the consequences of how he sets up the team in the future because he personally will be coaching it(and can't just dump his team that fits together terribly on someone else) he is more mindful of how things
work.

I'm hopeful that Isiah is now selling other gm's instead of selling us knicks fans. I'm hoping that Curry is on his way out, and that Aquire is just covering.

Cash why would you assume Berman is being honest about anything?
He has showed in the past how biased he is and that makes his credibility nill.

Who is Currys camp? I didnt know Curry had a "camp" An unidentified quote from Berman? That carries no weight. In my opinion Berman just like Larry Brooks whenever he wants to say something he just makes up an imaginary unidentified source. I know the Post is a tabloid and Berman is far from a reporter but he couldnt get a job at the Star or the Globe with his nonsense.

Zach and Curry are friends off the court.

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories? Especially concerning an organization that is as media conscious as the Knicks and who are more than willing to be vengeful towards people they think did them wrong?

You think being biased (funny how you don't mention reporters like Howard Beck, that are biased towards Isiah) ruins credibility? Fabricating stories completely destroys careers.

LOL, ask Latrell. Berman never proved whether the boat story was true. The post lawyers said that Sprewell and his people couldn't prove that someone told him that story or not, so Sprewell couldn't prove that he it was defamation of character with malicious intent. The Daily News and Times blasted him and the Post for not supporting the story. I am still waiting for support for that story but as he said I guess he doesn't need it to support it.

So what are you saying? That there was no evidence that Berman fabricated a story?

Thanks.

OK Isles let me ask you a question.

If Marc Berman writes something in the paper does that mean it is true? Yes or no?

I think it means that he believes it to be true when he writes it. Be it personal knowledge or from sources that he believes to be reliable.

I don't think he just makes crap up and prints it the way you do.

Really? so his opinions as a Columnist are facts? And our opinions are just made up?

Did you think Berman was telling the truth when he said "Curry, meanwhile, will enjoy New Orleans next February in the main event of All-Star weekend. Bank on it."

Oh damn hurry up and back track, lol.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-14-2007 12:11 AM]

Seriously, what the **** are you talking about? Are you really this obtuse? What you just quoted is obviously an opinion. Berman talking about what Aguirre said to him, and what you suggested was a fabrication, is not opinion.

I'm not even sure why you're going off on this tangent about fact or opinion. Go back to your premise that Berman intentionally fabricates stories. Offering his opinion every now and then is completely different. Where is your proof that he does?
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7/14/2007  12:27 AM
It was his anniversary. End of story. I don't see whats so wrong with spending your anniversary with the person you married. And with all the opportunities these guys have to mess around with women... I'm surprised she doesn't have him on lockdown all summer.

Seriously...some of you guys go overboard.
God forbid if he was at a relative's funeral or something I bet there would be one of you who wouldn't give a damn and say something like "he's relatives dead! missing camp wont change that!" just for arguement's sake.
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7/14/2007  12:27 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Cash:

Two things that I thought were interesting about this.

1.) From the Berman blog:
1. Was very amused that Knicks trotted out Mark Aguirre in the fourth quarter on their MSG Network telecast to rave about Curry's conditioning. It looked like a preemptive strike, knowing that a critical column on Curry being a no-show at the Las Vegas workouts was forthcoming. Aguirre said Curry is "way ahead of schedule.'' Actually when I spoke to Aguirre two weeks ago, he said Curry wouldn't start real serious conditioning until mid-July.

2. The statement from Curry's camp about how Isiah needs to figure out how this will work.

I'm hopeful after a full season of Isiah coaching Eddy Curry personally and Isiah knowing that he will have to deal with the consequences of how he sets up the team in the future because he personally will be coaching it(and can't just dump his team that fits together terribly on someone else) he is more mindful of how things
work.

I'm hopeful that Isiah is now selling other gm's instead of selling us knicks fans. I'm hoping that Curry is on his way out, and that Aquire is just covering.

Cash why would you assume Berman is being honest about anything?
He has showed in the past how biased he is and that makes his credibility nill.

Who is Currys camp? I didnt know Curry had a "camp" An unidentified quote from Berman? That carries no weight. In my opinion Berman just like Larry Brooks whenever he wants to say something he just makes up an imaginary unidentified source. I know the Post is a tabloid and Berman is far from a reporter but he couldnt get a job at the Star or the Globe with his nonsense.

Zach and Curry are friends off the court.

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories? Especially concerning an organization that is as media conscious as the Knicks and who are more than willing to be vengeful towards people they think did them wrong?

You think being biased (funny how you don't mention reporters like Howard Beck, that are biased towards Isiah) ruins credibility? Fabricating stories completely destroys careers.

LOL, ask Latrell. Berman never proved whether the boat story was true. The post lawyers said that Sprewell and his people couldn't prove that someone told him that story or not, so Sprewell couldn't prove that he it was defamation of character with malicious intent. The Daily News and Times blasted him and the Post for not supporting the story. I am still waiting for support for that story but as he said I guess he doesn't need it to support it.

So what are you saying? That there was no evidence that Berman fabricated a story?

Thanks.

OK Isles let me ask you a question.

If Marc Berman writes something in the paper does that mean it is true? Yes or no?

I think it means that he believes it to be true when he writes it. Be it personal knowledge or from sources that he believes to be reliable.

I don't think he just makes crap up and prints it the way you do.

Really? so his opinions as a Columnist are facts? And our opinions are just made up?

Did you think Berman was telling the truth when he said "Curry, meanwhile, will enjoy New Orleans next February in the main event of All-Star weekend. Bank on it."

Oh damn hurry up and back track, lol.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-14-2007 12:11 AM]

Seriously, what the **** are you talking about? Are you really this obtuse? What you just quoted is obviously an opinion. Berman talking about what Aguirre said to him, and what you suggested was a fabrication, is not opinion.

I'm not even sure why you're going off on this tangent about fact or opinion. Go back to your premise that Berman intentionally fabricates stories. Offering his opinion every now and then is completely different. Where is your proof that he does?

I said makes up quotes not stories. Arent most columnist stories made up?
Oh wait our opinions are madeup but a columnists opinions are "what he believes to be true", lol.
Oh wait you didnt even know the difference beatween a reporter and a columnist. LOL

Where is your proof the quote was not made up? Who said the quote? Oh yeah an unnamed source,lol.
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7/14/2007  12:34 AM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Cash:

Two things that I thought were interesting about this.

1.) From the Berman blog:
1. Was very amused that Knicks trotted out Mark Aguirre in the fourth quarter on their MSG Network telecast to rave about Curry's conditioning. It looked like a preemptive strike, knowing that a critical column on Curry being a no-show at the Las Vegas workouts was forthcoming. Aguirre said Curry is "way ahead of schedule.'' Actually when I spoke to Aguirre two weeks ago, he said Curry wouldn't start real serious conditioning until mid-July.

2. The statement from Curry's camp about how Isiah needs to figure out how this will work.

I'm hopeful after a full season of Isiah coaching Eddy Curry personally and Isiah knowing that he will have to deal with the consequences of how he sets up the team in the future because he personally will be coaching it(and can't just dump his team that fits together terribly on someone else) he is more mindful of how things
work.

I'm hopeful that Isiah is now selling other gm's instead of selling us knicks fans. I'm hoping that Curry is on his way out, and that Aquire is just covering.

Cash why would you assume Berman is being honest about anything?
He has showed in the past how biased he is and that makes his credibility nill.

Who is Currys camp? I didnt know Curry had a "camp" An unidentified quote from Berman? That carries no weight. In my opinion Berman just like Larry Brooks whenever he wants to say something he just makes up an imaginary unidentified source. I know the Post is a tabloid and Berman is far from a reporter but he couldnt get a job at the Star or the Globe with his nonsense.

Zach and Curry are friends off the court.

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories? Especially concerning an organization that is as media conscious as the Knicks and who are more than willing to be vengeful towards people they think did them wrong?

You think being biased (funny how you don't mention reporters like Howard Beck, that are biased towards Isiah) ruins credibility? Fabricating stories completely destroys careers.

LOL, ask Latrell. Berman never proved whether the boat story was true. The post lawyers said that Sprewell and his people couldn't prove that someone told him that story or not, so Sprewell couldn't prove that he it was defamation of character with malicious intent. The Daily News and Times blasted him and the Post for not supporting the story. I am still waiting for support for that story but as he said I guess he doesn't need it to support it.

So what are you saying? That there was no evidence that Berman fabricated a story?

Thanks.

OK Isles let me ask you a question.

If Marc Berman writes something in the paper does that mean it is true? Yes or no?

I think it means that he believes it to be true when he writes it. Be it personal knowledge or from sources that he believes to be reliable.

I don't think he just makes crap up and prints it the way you do.

Really? so his opinions as a Columnist are facts? And our opinions are just made up?

Did you think Berman was telling the truth when he said "Curry, meanwhile, will enjoy New Orleans next February in the main event of All-Star weekend. Bank on it."

Oh damn hurry up and back track, lol.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-14-2007 12:11 AM]

Seriously, what the **** are you talking about? Are you really this obtuse? What you just quoted is obviously an opinion. Berman talking about what Aguirre said to him, and what you suggested was a fabrication, is not opinion.

I'm not even sure why you're going off on this tangent about fact or opinion. Go back to your premise that Berman intentionally fabricates stories. Offering his opinion every now and then is completely different. Where is your proof that he does?

I said makes up quotes not stories. Arent most columnist stories made up?
Oh wait our opinions are madeup but a columnists opinions are "what he believes to be true", lol.
Oh wait you didnt even know the difference beatween a reporter and a columnist. LOL

Where is your proof the quote was not made up? Who said the quote? Oh yeah an unnamed source,lol.

You're a complete moron. I gave you a shot, now I treat you like every other idiot I've come across on this board.

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Your name calling in every post just shows your desparation.

By the way since imply the NY Post only prints the truth why did they pay the Ramseys millions of dollars to settle a libel suit?
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Posted by COSSUCKS:

Your name calling in every post just shows your desparation.

By the way since imply the NY Post only prints the truth why did they pay the Ramseys millions of dollars to settle a libel suit?

Wow, now who's making stuff up? Talk about desperation.
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Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Your name calling in every post just shows your desparation.

By the way since imply the NY Post only prints the truth why did they pay the Ramseys millions of dollars to settle a libel suit?

Wow, now who's making stuff up? Talk about desperation.

Oh the NY post did not pay millions to settle a libel lawsuit brought by the Ramseys? OK whatever you say.
After all newspaper writers never would risk their livlihood printing things that are not true. Good call,lol. :)

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-14-2007 12:52 AM]
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Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Your name calling in every post just shows your desparation.

By the way since imply the NY Post only prints the truth why did they pay the Ramseys millions of dollars to settle a libel suit?

Wow, now who's making stuff up? Talk about desperation.

Oh the NY post did not pay millions to settle a libel lawsuit brought by the Ramseys? OK whatever you say.
After all newspaper writers never print things that are not true. Good call,lol. :)

And yet another example of how clueless you are.

I've never implied anything that you're now claiming that I did. Not even close but that's not stopping you from running with it.

Pathetic and it reeks of desperation.
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Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Your name calling in every post just shows your desparation.

By the way since imply the NY Post only prints the truth why did they pay the Ramseys millions of dollars to settle a libel suit?

Wow, now who's making stuff up? Talk about desperation.

Oh the NY post did not pay millions to settle a libel lawsuit brought by the Ramseys? OK whatever you say.
After all newspaper writers never print things that are not true. Good call,lol. :)

And yet another example of how clueless you are.

I've never implied anything that you're now claiming that I did. Not even close but that's not stopping you from running with it.

Pathetic and it reeks of desperation.

Posted by islesfan:

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories?
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Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Your name calling in every post just shows your desparation.

By the way since imply the NY Post only prints the truth why did they pay the Ramseys millions of dollars to settle a libel suit?

Wow, now who's making stuff up? Talk about desperation.

Oh the NY post did not pay millions to settle a libel lawsuit brought by the Ramseys? OK whatever you say.
After all newspaper writers never print things that are not true. Good call,lol. :)

And yet another example of how clueless you are.

I've never implied anything that you're now claiming that I did. Not even close but that's not stopping you from running with it.

Pathetic and it reeks of desperation.

Posted by islesfan:

Why would a beat reporter risk his livelihood by completely fabricating stories?

And the Grand Canyon is between what you quoted me as saying and what you're implying I said.
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