Posted by Rich:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Rich:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by Rich:

It's not as if Jerry West or Rod Thorn will succeed him as GM.

The problems will exist as long as Dolan owns the team.

That's what was said about teams like the Nets and Clippers and so many other teams formerly considered jinxed.

And ironically those are the kinda teams that brought Brown in to take them to the playoffs, and he did.

Do you really think that Dolan will allow his next GM to build through the draft the way the Clippers largely did, or will he seek a quick fix?

Ironically, Brown couldn't commit to either of those teams even though there was no Dolan or Isiah around.

Ironically, Brown was 100% correct about this team.

If Dolan is allowed Isiah to rebuild through the draft and with young players, why wouldn't Dolan let Isiah's successor do the same???

Why didn't he get as much out of Curry or Lee?

Because he could be getting impatient and the person he hires may not want to rebuild either.

Posted by islesfan:

On the contrary, I think Larry got a lot out of Lee. Considering he was the 30th pick and he had to find playing time for him amongst all the veteran forwards on the team, I think Lee had a fine rookie year.

As for Curry, weren't people talking about how Curry couldn't workout all offseason because of the heart problem and that it affected him all season?

Posted by Rich:

Posted by BlueSeats:


He waived Taylor and Rose. That's a clue.

That's merely an indication that he is willing to rebuild with Isiah. He could well order a new GM to make the playoffs in Year 1, as he did with Isiah.

Brown was a quick fix for those teams. In general, the sooner he makes it work the sooner he goes. When it takes a while he stays a while.

I don't see how that's evidence of having good character.

Posted by islesfan:

How is it miscontruing things? Lee had 6 other forwards in front of him when the season started. Then they added JRose. To Lee's credit, he showed that he deserved PT and for the most part he got it. He played as much as most rookies last year and more then most late first rounders. Lee was going to play more this year even if Brown were still here. It wasn't about Isiah. If anything you can say that Isiah is stunting his growth now because he's obviously deserved more PT, more than Frye or Jeffries but those guys are still getting it ahead of him.

No, they went 2-20 during that stretch because the players quit on Brown. Marbury was their leader, the one who the rookies looked up to, and when he quit on Brown, they followed suit.

he quit on Brown by getting injured? after the team won six in a row? during a stretch where Marbury averaged 23ppg and 13apg? that's quitting on a coach? that's a new one.

The Lee thing is subjective - you can say Malik Rose and Antonio Davis deserved to play in front of him until your blue in the face, but I won't believe you. And I don't think there were ever six, it was primarily AD, Malik and Mo Taylor, all three of whom were jokes. The forward rotation clearly should have been Frye, Lee, Ariza and a little AD. But Brown sabotaged Ariza's career here and used Lee and Frye inconsistently. I don't think anyone had a problem with Lee or Frye getting 35 minutes in a given game, it was when they didn't even get in the game the next night or played sparingly. Sure, that averages out to 18mpg, but the whole point with Brown was lack of rotation and consistency, of which he gave the team zero.

Thomas has added some, but he clearly needs to shorten the rotation and stop trying to justify the job Isiah the GM did and just coach the guys he has. For the most part the roles have been consistent except for injuries. Lee had at least 14DNPs last year that had nothing to do with injury - he was never injured.