Posted by McK1:

I have a feeling draft night will be very ugly for Dolan Mills Thomas

Posted by rvhoss:

You're kidding right?

Posted by McK1:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Link

See how the rest of the country feels about what transpired and they aren't swayed by favorites.

the people have spoken

Jun 24th will answer this question much better than I can.

Posted by holfresh:


Berman on ESPN 1050 now...

Posted by holfresh:


Berman says Larry spoke about trades to others without consulting Zeke...

Posted by rvhoss:

Hey, the year before with less talent we won 33 games, last year was a new coach, hence your 23 wins.

Take LB from the coaches name and he's fired.

This team had 3 rookies and 3 new starters (4 if you count LB benching Crawford for the first game and frye in a suit, our effing lotto pick for pete's sake)

I expect to not win the division, but I did not expect 23 wins, if anybody can say they honestly felt we were and still are a 23 win team isn't watching the games and knows nothing about the knicks.

Sorry bip, you can start to change your tone as you realize fish and isles are probably busy at work and can't come to your bashing defense, but you came into this post questioning our ability to compete next year and I'm just calling a spade a spade.

IMHO, you hope the knicks fail next season so Zeke can be fired.

Posted by Bippity10:


Maybe my standards are higher than some but when they win 23 out of 82 games I call that crap.

I don't care who is coahc or who is GM or who the players are when we get better. I am not a coach or player, fan I am a Knick fan. This shouldn't be about the names. I odn't care about the names. That's the "real fans" job to care about the names. Here is an exact quote by Bip from about a month ago:

"It's obvious LB is gone. I just wish they would get this over with and fire LB so that we can move forward as an organization instead of embarrassing ouselves again. So many people are so obsessed with hating LB that they put him ahead of the organization and what we need to do to get back in the mix. I'm assuming when LB is fired Zeke will be coach. At that point I hope that we as an organization allow him to be coach and coach according to a long-term plan instead of coaching to save his job. This is what we did to Lenny, Herb and Don and it needs to stop. It's time to give our coach's what they need in order to turn this around. It's the only way to win"

I don't pretend to know any of these guys and don't care about them individually. I hope they all live long lives but after that I don't care. I care about the Knicks. I care about the KNicks doing what it takes to win a title for the first time in my life. I could care less about LB or Zeke or any of them. I wear a Knicks jersey not an LB/Zeke suit. I want the Knicks to win, and if Zeke is the man that does that fantastic. In the meantime I have no problem hoping he does the right thing. Remember even if you hate LB and think he is the reason we won 23 games, remember hiring him was Zeke's responsibility. So he takes blame in that as well. So it's time for Zeke to make a good move. I am rooting for this with all my heart, although I'm sure a month from now someone will say differently.

In the future: I have my own opinions. I fight with Isles regularly as I do with all posters that think our record is the result of ONE MAN(whether it's LB or Marbs or Zeke). I've fought so often about how it's idiotic to blame our record on one guy that I really can't see how a regular poster can lump me in any category.

Here have been my arguments:

Islesfan:It's not Zekes fault
Blueseats: It's not Marb's fault
TMS: It's not Don Chaney's fault
Holfresh and OngBoK: It's not Larry's fault.

The only thing I am guilty of is thinking that 6 years of losing is an organizational problem instead of obsessing on one guy


[Edited by - bippity10 on 06-22-2006 2:51 PM]

Posted by OngBok:

anything new ??

Posted by McK1:

Posted by holfresh:


Berman says Larry spoke about trades to others without consulting Zeke...

thats not news.

that was in a Seattle paper back in like late December early January

Posted by Bippity10:

In the future: I have my own opinions. I fight with Isles regularly as I do with all posters that think our record is the result of ONE MAN(whether it's LB or Marbs or Zeke). I've fought so often about how it's idiotic to blame our record on one guy that I really can't see how a regular poster can lump me in any category.

Here have been my arguments:

Islesfan:It's not Zekes fault
Blueseats: It's not Isiah's fault
TMS: It's not Don Chaney's fault
Holfresh and OngBoK: It's not Larry's fault.

The only thing I am guilty of is thinking that 6 years of losing is an organizational problem instead of obsessing on one guy