Posted by rvhoss:

You do realize that JYD was FOURTH on the SF depth chart this coming year.
Wait, he was FOURTH on the PF depth chart as well.
Maybe center?
Sorry to say, he was FOURTH on that depth chart as well. (jj/frye/rose/jackie)

Rose is starting...you can take that to the bank.

Posted by simrud:

You are missign the point, that was LAST YEAR. This year we have added James and Frye who both shold be ahead on the deapth chart, along with Sweetney. That leaves one backup PF spot open to go to either Rose or Taylor. ONE FREAKIN SPOT! Having two gusy to fill on need is retarded man. That is why we should have waived one of them. JYD would prolly only play at SF when matchup asked for it, but at least that is more of a use then being the 5th big in the rotation.

thank god Rose is starting! now we can finally make noise in the playoffs and finally win a championship after 33yrs!

Posted by simrud:

Rose did nothing to help SA. He was the weakest part of their rotation. Their achilles hill if you will.


I remember back in 99 I was extatic every time he came into the game because it meant somthing good for the Knicks every time he touched the ball.

Why do you think they gave up 2 1st round picks to get rid of him if he was so good.

Posted by gunsnewing:

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Posted by djsunyc:

and it's obvious he wants to keep penny and tim around for that blockbuster dampier deal in february.
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exactly! or do people still think we're getting Elton Brand for expiring contracts?!

Posted by fishmike:

Don't get me wrong, if it was in the name of fiscal responsibility, I would have waived the Shandon Contract (but do we even know if that is allowed?)

yes its allowed. The Suns used it on Eisley's deal and he's been off the team for a year.

So its a stupid move. Here's a newsflash: Bad GMs make stupid moves. More to follow...

Posted by rvhoss:

You say that in Texas and they'd string you up.

Rose brings intelligence (see him pull out the chair on shaq) and championship savvy and Brown loves him.

Do you guys know anything about basketball? Do you watch the games? Do stats count for anything? Rose is a far better option than JYD...I need proof JYD is our second best defender btw...cause if that isn't a made up fact, I don't know what is.

Rose played on a CHAMPIONSHIP team defending the other teams best low post threat (SHAQ btw) out west in the playoffs while Duncan stayed out of foul trouble and they WON A CHAMPIONSHIP.

JYD has done what in his career?

Posted by DarkKnicks:

I think Isiah is right with the fact that we had to waive a PF, but I don't agree with the one he has chosen. I'm going to tell you now before it happens: I'm gonna be if Malik Rose becomes our new starting PF. In my opinion he is the most overrated player in our roster.

Hey, did you need to ask those stupid question?? It is not that I hate Malik Rose, simply we did not need him. Do you want me to tell you that he is great because Duncan gave him two championships??? Mohammed shall be great then. We don't need him because with Sweetney, Taylor and Williams (and Lee) IN MY OPINION we had a very well balanced group of PF's AND because he has the longest contract. Can he play center??? Oh, that's what we need now! A 6'7 center!!!(that can only happen in the Knicks as alwaysy) I don't want another player who gets 10 boards a game playing 36 minutes being a starter while we are losing tons of games and stopping Sweetney development instead of just a role player who lets Sweetney and Taylor (who are both better in my eyes han Rose) get almost all the playing time without a single complaint. If he did not care, I would be ok, but he is going to complaint a lot, and he will get all the playing time he wants. And I honestly CAN'T see the Knicks winning anything with a starting front court of Jerome James and Malik Rose.

Posted by fishmike:

Hey, Isles, what if they wanted to keep Jackie Butler? How would waiving Shandon make sense then?

yes. Because your paying them both anyway. By using the rule on Shandon you save more $$$ because his deal is bigger. So you just cut JYD, and amnesty Shandon and you save about $1.5mm

Its not my money, but $1.5mm is $1.5mm

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by tomverve:

Fish, gimme a break. If Isiah amnesties Shamdon and THEN waives JYD, there'd be even more of an outrage. "We got rid of JYD for nothing! That's so stupid!"

Not saying this board is a bunch of malcontents, but lol, you guys sure are looking for something to complain about. All. The. Time. The overreaction to this waiver is just the latest example. You'd think we just traded Ewing for Weatherspoon or something. Folks, it ain't that big of a deal, and it's not obvious that any other waivers would have been clearly better. Get over it, enjoy this nice summer day.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This move is basically meaningless, it's not going to make or break our season or our salarycap situation, therefor its rendered minimal.

couldnt have said it better myself. it's a bookkeeping, worthless move. if we kept JYD, everyone on here would have been B!atching when JYD was getting burn ahead of Ariza or Frye or Lee.

Bye JYD. We never even knew you.

Posted by simrud:

So its JYD fault we went 2-18? I mean blamin the least importantp layer in the startin five and not even the most important player when of bench makes all the sense in the world I guess.

We should have traded Marbury long ago by that logic. He went 2-18 while playint he most minutes, it must be his fault!