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12/20/2021  8:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/20/2021  8:33 AM

People in NY stay safe and be careful. Everyone in the comments know Florida is not reporting/under reporting.


This is evidently a state with no big COVID issues.
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12/20/2021  1:35 PM
Clean wrote:
People in NY stay safe and be careful. Everyone in the comments know Florida is not reporting/under reporting.


This is evidently a state with no big COVID issues.

Definitely seems like a lot of governments completely fell asleep at the wheel, maybe influence by ideology. Seems to be such resistance to do any long term, global planning, funding and economic direction around covid (likely with us for years), instead it was "oh good we've done the vaccine thing- let's pretend that's it over and done with so we don't actually have to do anything else!"

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12/20/2021  6:21 PM
whoa

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12/20/2021  6:25 PM
martin wrote:whoa

In NJ - they've got the covid alert app - and the numbers of positive hit just over 6000 on the 16th and they've been basically there - my thought is that is the capacity for NJ to test & process - meaning it's probably a lot higher!

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12/20/2021  6:31 PM
Damn I knew omicron was more transmissible but I never knew it was this much more. The NBA was giving us hints anyway. They are 95% plus vaxxed and are having constant outbreaks. So it should have been obvious how prevalent omicron was already and how effective it is vs vaxxed people. Thank goodness the vaxx still helps limit the seriousness of the infection.
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12/20/2021  6:36 PM
I don't know how true it is but I heard that anti bodies from unvaxxed people who were previously infected by omicron were not good enough to stop reinfection. I don't know how that applies to vaxxed people who caught it. We will find out soon enough when these NBA players come back from protocols. Sad to say they are now being used as guinea pigs.
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BRIGGS wrote:Why doesn’t the U S government go back to a two week quarantine get rid of large gatherings force mandatory mask wearing and pay those who haven’t had shots? It’s been so F slow again. AND this time we easily should’ve acted faster
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12/20/2021  6:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/20/2021  6:53 PM
we need more data to see just how strong this variant is but so far, looks like it's not as bad as the original or delta.

but all the #'s so far say that if you are vaccinated, you have a great chance to get past this with minimal symptoms.

eventually, we all are going to catch it. it just comes down to how comfortable you are getting it and how your body will fight it off - that will determine how you live your life.

positives are skyrocketing but hospitalizations/deaths aren't at that same level. that's a good sign this is a weaker strain.

just hope it keeps getting weaker and it eventually just becomes a cold/flu. that's the only way to return to "normal". vaccines are helping tremendously so they are still vital to get.

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12/20/2021  6:56 PM

Very Informative video on omicron.
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Clean wrote:I don't know how true it is but I heard that anti bodies from unvaxxed people who were previously infected by omicron were not good enough to stop reinfection. I don't know how that applies to vaxxed people who caught it. We will find out soon enough when these NBA players come back from protocols. Sad to say they are now being used as guinea pigs.

I posted this earlier - and there is a hopefully in here-

https://www.livescience.com/breakthrough-covid-infection-immunity-boost

Catching COVID-19 after vaccination may supercharge the immune system, making it better able to fight off new variants, a new study hints.

Limited study - 26 people with pfizer. So - maybe the good news is if you are vaxxed, get it, you're not going to get it again.

But, if you're not vaxxed, you might get sick, possibly less severe than other varieties- but no guarantee you won't be potentially reinfected down the line.

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martin wrote:

it's not great news - but this variety may burn out quicker than others - that is what they found in South Africa

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-17/s-africa-says-hospitalizations-in-omicron-wave-much-lower

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12/21/2021  10:06 AM
Haven't gotten a chance to read full article but seems like a decent take

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martin wrote:WOWOWOW

Clean wrote:

If what they say is true this is a game changer. A vaxx that will cover every variant is amazing. I don't know how it's possible because if I remember correctly omicron causes breakthrough infections because it replicates way too fast for our antibodies to kill it before it take root. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. How will a difference vaxx solve that issue? I will be listening when the information about this comes out.

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12/22/2021  7:44 AM
No idea on the varacity of this article but it is interesting

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-22/melbourne-researchers-trial-use-of-common-drug-to-combat-covid/100717224

Melbourne researchers trial use of common blood-thinning drug heparin to combat COVID-19

By state political reporter Bridget Rollason

Melbourne researchers have turned one of the world's most-used drugs into a nasal spray which they hope could prevent COVID-19 transmission.

Key points:

- The nasal spray is expected to be effective against emerging COVID variants, including Omicron
- The drug will be trialled in 340 Victorian households over the next six months
- The spray does not require refrigeration and could be distributed widely

Northern Health medical divisional director Don Campbell said he had a "crazy idea" that the blood-thinning drug heparin could stop the virus growing in cells.

But it wasn't until his wife asked "well, what are you going to do about it?" that he got to work.

Nearly two years later, with the help of researchers at Melbourne, Monash and Oxford Universities, his team has been able to replicate international findings that heparin can block the transmission of COVID-19 and prevent infection.

The spray coats the nose but does not go down into the lungs. The researchers say it is cheap, easy to distribute and is expected to be effective against mutant strains of the virus including the Omicron variant.

"It won't matter if a new variant comes along, this drug will block that protein from infecting the cells," Professor Campbell said.

"I'm very confident that we can demonstrate that it will work, and people will be using this before they go to the shops and before they go to school."

Household contacts to be part of trial

The treatment has received $4.2 million from the Victorian government to undergo clinical trials.

Over the next six months, 340 Victorian households will be given the heparin nasal spray or a placebo, within hours of their household contact testing positive, to reduce transmission.

"The treatment will be given to household family contacts of the persons who get COVID, and we will also give it to the person who is infected," Professor Campbell said.

"We want to get to them within 24 hours of the diagnosis being known and we are confident we can do that."

Heparin is the second most-widely used drug on earth and is stable at room temperature for more than three months, meaning it can be widely distributed.

Director of the Lung Health Research Centre at the University of Melbourne, Gary Anderson, said the spray would be easy to use — two puffs each nostril, three times a day.

Professor Anderson is excited about the science behind the treatment, describing it as "cool".

"When [COVID] first gets into the nose it binds to a molecule called heparan and if it mutates that binding site it can't bind," he said.

"Heparin is so close in structure to heparan that it binds on and paralyses the virus, so it stops it infecting and also stops it spreading to others."

Spray seen as complementary to vaccination

Director of the Medicines Manufacturing Innovation Centre at Monash University, Michelle McIntosh, has spent the past 20 months working on the best possible formulation for the nasal spray.

She said some coronavirus vaccines had limited distribution in some countries because they needed to be stored at ultra-low temperatures.

"One of the wonderful things about heparin is it is already available on the market as an approved product for another purpose, it doesn't require refrigeration and can be stored in plastic vials so it can be distributed very widely and effectively," Professor McIntosh said.

"We are not proposing this as an alternative to a vaccination, it is a supplement for people who can't be vaccinated, but we do imagine it will be very widely used."

The nasal spray treatment is one of seven local coronavirus treatment research projects that will share in $13 million of funding from the Victorian government.

Victorian Medical Research Minister Jaala Pulford said it's hoped the heparin nasal spray can be manufactured locally.

"Coronavirus is not going away any time soon and our amazing researchers are doing work that stands to make a real difference," Ms Pulford said.

"These projects will benefit not just Victorians but people around the world."

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12/22/2021  10:14 AM

The Covid is a common cold people will ignore this though. This is also while having reduced lethality to vaxxed people.

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