BRIGGS wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Anyone who didn't know what they were getting into with D Trump had eyes closed. Look at my posts I know full well he is a narcissistic obnoxious boisterous person. I do not agree with some of the more aggressive outlandish stances but I do agree with half or partial types of agreements. The guy had cahones and vision-- just to extreme but those things get negotiated out. To vote for Hillary Clinton is voting to agree to accept a person who is obviously corrupt a fake of enormous magnitude a terrible choice as first female potus a person who has been in top level government for 30 years. I mean a Bush or a Clinton will have been President for most of the life we have lived. I think the US has gone in the wrong direction for a long time. We owe a lot of money I feel our military and morale is weak we have problems on multiple fronts I'm not a Donald Trump lover but I do not agree with having Hillary Clinton as president . I think I'm free to believe what I think is in the best interests of everyone even if the choice is fatally flawed
I don't think you know one iota of what Trump represents, what policies he has proposed, what meaningful things he could do for this country, what things he has done in the past.
I think you see a guys who is bullish on himself and tries to project an alpha male personality and you like it. That's it in a nutshell.
I don't think you have done any homework on what Hilary has done but have taken what you have seen on Fox or the like and taken that as fact. Very similar to Gun's Fact on Fox line.
It's the same reason you think Trump will win Connecticut.
BRIGGS, Hilary has not been in the top level of Gov't for 30 years, that's just the line Trump used in the last debate and which reverberated with you and you just repeated it. Trump marketing just sold you a bill of goods. Hilary has been a Senator and Secretary of State. Total of 12 years. Where do you get 30?
Stop being fooled so easily, you are better than that.
What don't I understand Martin?
I don't understand the cost that 20 mm illegal immigrants have on our health care system? Why should I pay taxes and not them?
I don't understand the peril the US is falling into with Russia and other countries by taking an antagonistic thought process to foreign affairs
I didn't see people stomping and burning the Us flag while they waived Mexican flags above it IN the US
I didn't see a rise in racial tensions the last 8 years?
I didn't see U S debt rise 12 trillion $ in the last 8 years.
I didn't see a rise in unlawful conduct in the US?
I guess no one noticed that your medical costs went way up yet your medical service went way down?
I guess no one notices the increase in drug consumption in the US?
I guess no one notices the lack of respect police have for the government and no one has noticed that Trump has close to a 100% backing of police endorsements in the Us?
No one has noticed the people in the uber cities got nothing from an African American President over the last 8 years
We should absolutely not have an open borders open immigration policy here. We need serious work in our own house. You go elect Hillary and watch her actions or should I say inactions
I won't challenge any of these points to focus on a particular topic.
For sale of discussion, let's assume for a second all these things are accurate.
Can you name a single, legitimate Trump policy that addresses any one of them?
You've rattled off a laundry list of fears Briggs, but while you could have easily itemized the proposed solutions, you did not.
Why not?
Why can't or won't you name a single Trump solution to any of these things?
I don't care what D Trumps views are on women nor do I give a fck what Hillary thinks of men. Any man here who hasn't referred to a women by the term past in their life is a self righteous bser. I'm not looking for this guy to date my daughter I'm looking for him to help create some foundational order lacking especially when it comes to our military and immigration policies .
I've never referred TO a woman by the word *****. That you think everyone like you has exemplifies the echo chamber in which so many Trump supporters live. It is a lack or empathy, or a lack of emotional intelligence that makes it difficult for them to comprehend that other people don't in fact, think exactly like them.
And that's still missing the point, entirely.
Do a lot of guys describe their sexual exploits in detail. Of course.
Do a lot of guys lie.brag about their sexual exploits to other guys. Of course.
But Trump wasn't describing or bragging about a sexual exploit. He was describing/bragging about sexual ASSAULT.
No, I've never done that and I've never heard it in my life. I've never wanted another guy to believe whether genuine or not that I committed sexual assault and could get away with it because of how more powerful I was than her.
And despite your claim that anyone who won't admit to this is a a self-righteous BSer, YOU won't either.
You won't confirm here in response that you in fact have committed sexual assault or have falsely bragged about it.
Or will you?