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10/13/2008  1:07 AM
Posted by jaydh:

Beltran is not getting traded for that package, I doubt he gets traded at all.

o right, we can only get untested B level prospects for Cano, right? gimme a break.
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10/13/2008  1:11 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by jaydh:

Beltran is not getting traded for that package, I doubt he gets traded at all.

o right, we can only get untested B level prospects for Cano, right? gimme a break.

Who knows what you can get for Cano after such a bad season. Definately nothing like Beltran. The offer is laughable; Kennedy appears to be a bust or needs a lot more seasoning in AAA, A.Jackson is no better than FMart; and Cano doesn't even come close to bringing what Beltran does. I can see why the yanks would want this deal, but not the mets.
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10/13/2008  1:13 AM
Posted by VDesai:

I think the Yanks will probably get Tex and 1 big time starting pitcher and another middle of the line type. Nothings guaranteed, but I think the Yanks will be pretty loose with the pursestrings this year in light of being dissapointed with last year's results-

And in reality 89 wins while losing your ace, your all star catchers and several of your other top level offensive players for significant chunks of the year really is something you have to look at with some perspective. Yes they missed the playoffs, but they weren't as far away as some would have you convinced they were. Free agency moreso than trades make sense for this team.

Boras is asking for ARod dollars for Tex... i wouldn't give him much more than $20 mil a year considering what we gave Giambi when we signed him & he was the MVP when we got him.
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10/13/2008  1:16 AM
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Posted by jaydh:

Beltran is not getting traded for that package, I doubt he gets traded at all.

o right, we can only get untested B level prospects for Cano, right? gimme a break.

Who knows what you can get for Cano after such a bad season. Definately nothing like Beltran. The offer is laughable; Kennedy appears to be a bust or needs a lot more seasoning in AAA, A.Jackson is no better than FMart; and Cano doesn't even come close to bringing what Beltran does. I can see why the yanks would want this deal, but not the mets.

sure... for a player like Beltran we'd have to give up Joba, Cano, Hughes, Kennedy & Austin Jackson in all likelihood... what was i thinking.
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10/13/2008  1:21 AM
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Posted by jaydh:
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Posted by jaydh:

Beltran is not getting traded for that package, I doubt he gets traded at all.

o right, we can only get untested B level prospects for Cano, right? gimme a break.

Who knows what you can get for Cano after such a bad season. Definately nothing like Beltran. The offer is laughable; Kennedy appears to be a bust or needs a lot more seasoning in AAA, A.Jackson is no better than FMart; and Cano doesn't even come close to bringing what Beltran does. I can see why the yanks would want this deal, but not the mets.

sure... for a player like Beltran we'd have to give up Joba, Cano, Hughes, Kennedy & Austin Jackson in all likelihood... what was i thinking.

no he's only worth a package of Damon(35yo OFer who should only be a DH, cant throw the ball a lick)/Melky(crappy 4th OFer)/Kennedy(bust)...lol
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10/13/2008  1:22 AM
You should know plenty about busts Jay.. the Mets have come up with about 1000000 busts at SP over the past few years. But hey, the ones that worked out like Kazmir are pitching great, but for someone else.
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10/13/2008  1:22 AM
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Posted by jaydh:

Beltran is not getting traded for that package, I doubt he gets traded at all.

o right, we can only get untested B level prospects for Cano, right? gimme a break.

Who knows what you can get for Cano after such a bad season. Definately nothing like Beltran. The offer is laughable; Kennedy appears to be a bust or needs a lot more seasoning in AAA, A.Jackson is no better than FMart; and Cano doesn't even come close to bringing what Beltran does. I can see why the yanks would want this deal, but not the mets.

sure... for a player like Beltran we'd have to give up Joba, Cano, Hughes, Kennedy & Austin Jackson in all likelihood... what was i thinking.

no he's only worth a package of Damon(35yo OFer who should only be a DH, cant throw the ball a lick)/Melky(crappy 4th OFer)/Kennedy(bust)...lol

i didn't say that's all he's worth, only that i wouldn't give up much else... who else would i give? Joba? please excuse me while i laugh my ass off... i already gave my reasons why i wouldn't give up Cano... ARod? please, another laugher.
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10/13/2008  1:24 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by jaydh:

Beltran is not getting traded for that package, I doubt he gets traded at all.

o right, we can only get untested B level prospects for Cano, right? gimme a break.

Who knows what you can get for Cano after such a bad season. Definately nothing like Beltran. The offer is laughable; Kennedy appears to be a bust or needs a lot more seasoning in AAA, A.Jackson is no better than FMart; and Cano doesn't even come close to bringing what Beltran does. I can see why the yanks would want this deal, but not the mets.

sure... for a player like Beltran we'd have to give up Joba, Cano, Hughes, Kennedy & Austin Jackson in all likelihood... what was i thinking.

no he's only worth a package of Damon(35yo OFer who should only be a DH, cant throw the ball a lick)/Melky(crappy 4th OFer)/Kennedy(bust)...lol

i didn't say that's all he's worth, only that i wouldn't give up much else... who else would i give? Joba? please excuse me while i laugh my ass off... i already gave my reasons why i wouldn't give up Cano... ARod? please, another laugher.

Beltran is going anywhere. Especially for a junk package.
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10/13/2008  1:27 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

You should know plenty about busts Jay.. the Mets have come up with about 1000000 busts at SP over the past few years. But hey, the ones that worked out like Kazmir are pitching great, but for someone else.

Thats true, it was easy to spot overhyped busts like Kennedy and Hughes.
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10/13/2008  1:29 AM
Posted by jaydh:
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Posted by jaydh:

Beltran is not getting traded for that package, I doubt he gets traded at all.

o right, we can only get untested B level prospects for Cano, right? gimme a break.

Who knows what you can get for Cano after such a bad season. Definately nothing like Beltran. The offer is laughable; Kennedy appears to be a bust or needs a lot more seasoning in AAA, A.Jackson is no better than FMart; and Cano doesn't even come close to bringing what Beltran does. I can see why the yanks would want this deal, but not the mets.

sure... for a player like Beltran we'd have to give up Joba, Cano, Hughes, Kennedy & Austin Jackson in all likelihood... what was i thinking.

no he's only worth a package of Damon(35yo OFer who should only be a DH, cant throw the ball a lick)/Melky(crappy 4th OFer)/Kennedy(bust)...lol

i didn't say that's all he's worth, only that i wouldn't give up much else... who else would i give? Joba? please excuse me while i laugh my ass off... i already gave my reasons why i wouldn't give up Cano... ARod? please, another laugher.

Beltran is going anywhere. Especially for a junk package.

don't get ur panties up in a bunch... we're talking hypotheticals... u get so damn defensive about ur players on the Yankees thread.
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10/13/2008  1:30 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

You should know plenty about busts Jay.. the Mets have come up with about 1000000 busts at SP over the past few years. But hey, the ones that worked out like Kazmir are pitching great, but for someone else.

btw, Pelfrey is looking good. How's Hughes?
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10/13/2008  1:32 AM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

You should know plenty about busts Jay.. the Mets have come up with about 1000000 busts at SP over the past few years. But hey, the ones that worked out like Kazmir are pitching great, but for someone else.

Thats true, it was easy to spot overhyped busts like Kennedy and Hughes.

*cough* Lastings Milledge *cough* Alex Escobar *cough* Aaron Heilmann *cough* Bill Pulsipher *cough*

i can go on & on but i gotta get something for this cough...
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10/13/2008  1:33 AM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

You should know plenty about busts Jay.. the Mets have come up with about 1000000 busts at SP over the past few years. But hey, the ones that worked out like Kazmir are pitching great, but for someone else.

btw, Pelfrey is looking good. How's Hughes?

we'll let u know in 2 years when he gets to Pelfrey's age numbnuts.
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10/13/2008  1:34 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

You should know plenty about busts Jay.. the Mets have come up with about 1000000 busts at SP over the past few years. But hey, the ones that worked out like Kazmir are pitching great, but for someone else.

Thats true, it was easy to spot overhyped busts like Kennedy and Hughes.

*cough* Lastings Milledge *cough* Alex Escobar *cough* Aaron Heilmann *cough* Bill Pulsipher *cough*

i can go on & on but i gotta get something for this cough...

all teams have busts even though I don't think Milledge or Heilman are busts, for Milledge not yet at least.
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10/13/2008  1:35 AM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

You should know plenty about busts Jay.. the Mets have come up with about 1000000 busts at SP over the past few years. But hey, the ones that worked out like Kazmir are pitching great, but for someone else.

Thats true, it was easy to spot overhyped busts like Kennedy and Hughes.

*cough* Lastings Milledge *cough* Alex Escobar *cough* Aaron Heilmann *cough* Bill Pulsipher *cough*

i can go on & on but i gotta get something for this cough...

all teams have busts even though I don't think Milledge or Heilman are busts, for Milledge not yet at least.

right, Milledge isn't a bust yet but Hughes & Kennedy are... there's objectivity for u.
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10/13/2008  1:37 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

You should know plenty about busts Jay.. the Mets have come up with about 1000000 busts at SP over the past few years. But hey, the ones that worked out like Kazmir are pitching great, but for someone else.

Thats true, it was easy to spot overhyped busts like Kennedy and Hughes.

*cough* Lastings Milledge *cough* Alex Escobar *cough* Aaron Heilmann *cough* Bill Pulsipher *cough*

i can go on & on but i gotta get something for this cough...

all teams have busts even though I don't think Milledge or Heilman are busts, for Milledge not yet at least.

right, Milledge isn't a bust yet but Hughes & Kennedy are... there's objectivity for u.

ok then, if heilman is a bust after 1 bad season, then so is cano. like that logic?
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10/13/2008  2:11 AM
1 bad season? he's had 2 good seasons in 6 years... u wanna tell me he's still a prospect at this point?
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10/13/2008  11:17 AM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

You should know plenty about busts Jay.. the Mets have come up with about 1000000 busts at SP over the past few years. But hey, the ones that worked out like Kazmir are pitching great, but for someone else.

btw, Pelfrey is looking good. How's Hughes?

Pelfrey is 24 and Hughes 22. Pelfreys first 2 years he was absolutely terrible, sporting ERAs above 5.50, I guarantee you that Hughes has a better year than Pelfrey does next year, when Hughes is in his 3rd year.
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10/13/2008  11:31 AM
Posted by TMS:

1 bad season? he's had 2 good seasons in 6 years... u wanna tell me he's still a prospect at this point?

counting 65IP and 28IP years when he was still a starter? i guess phil hughes has already had 2 bad seasons as well.


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10/13/2008  11:33 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

You should know plenty about busts Jay.. the Mets have come up with about 1000000 busts at SP over the past few years. But hey, the ones that worked out like Kazmir are pitching great, but for someone else.

btw, Pelfrey is looking good. How's Hughes?

Pelfrey is 24 and Hughes 22. Pelfreys first 2 years he was absolutely terrible, sporting ERAs above 5.50, I guarantee you that Hughes has a better year than Pelfrey does next year, when Hughes is in his 3rd year.

good luck with that, and i guarantee you that Hughes wont make it through the entire season without injury.
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