Posted by fishmike:

honestly I like Isiah and the things he's tried to do. Dermaar Johnson didnt pan out but that was a worthy idea. I like the Marbury and Crawford deals alot. I'm ok with his thinking on the Rose trade. Moochie was ok if for no other reason we dumped Spoon and got to see Sweetney play some. Baker was a big mistake, he gave us nothing when there were MUCH better options out there for what he gave Baker. Ariza was a great job. I thought he overpaid some for Marbury but it was an important move. I understand the TT/Nazr trade even if it didnt work out that well.

Every GM makes mistakes and thats OK, my thing is make them as you stick to a plan or a philosophy. If these two picks we got w/ Rose are busts life goes on, but we made mistakes in a commitment to build with the draft and get young players with flexible contracts.

Mo Taylor goes against that. I'm still fine with Isiah, but why cant I critize a deal he makes without getting labeled a hater? Why if I say our GM made a bad call does that mean I want the guy fired?

My guess is Isiah will be fine, but I think he made his job a little harder by adding a guy like Mo Taylor.

So you like most of Isiah's trades and think he'll be fine? Aren't you the same poster who said Isiah was a "disaster"?

Regarding sticking to the plan, we closely inspect every single move our GM makes much more so than other GMs. My guess is that out of the 15 or so moves (counting 10 day contracts, etc) even the best GMs make every two years, 5% of them might appear to not fit the plan to the fans posting on forums. Sometimes those moves are mistakes; other times message board posters just didn't understand the plan even though they were certain (like you appear to be) that they did.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 03/25/2005 07:58:21]

Mo T is a bad move no matter what the plan is. He adds nothing. He cost us a 2nd round pick, 2 tradeable contracts and mo money. The math for this should be easier. Net gain = you're screwed.

the more I read this the more I think Zeke should just trade for like 2 or 3 second picks and then we can trade 2 2nd round picks for the 1st overall pick, then use that other second round pick to grab a sure thing at the 53rd pick in the draft....those first rounder, we should trade package for a high second round pick and grab the best player in the draft, Stefano Mancinelli.

This useless guy who isn't worthy of our 12th roster spot or a late second round pick went 6-9 scoring 13 points while grabbing 10 boards in 23 minutes against Boston the other night.

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by joec32033:

the more I read this the more I think Zeke should just trade for like 2 or 3 second picks and then we can trade 2 2nd round picks for the 1st overall pick, then use that other second round pick to grab a sure thing at the 53rd pick in the draft....those first rounder, we should trade package for a high second round pick and grab the best player in the draft, Stefano Mancinelli.

Mancinelli is going to stay another year in Europe to work on his game with Vujanic. Which is too bad. He might be better than Taylor.

I always hope that sarcasm doesn't get lost in a post....

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by joec32033:

the more I read this the more I think Zeke should just trade for like 2 or 3 second picks and then we can trade 2 2nd round picks for the 1st overall pick, then use that other second round pick to grab a sure thing at the 53rd pick in the draft....those first rounder, we should trade package for a high second round pick and grab the best player in the draft, Stefano Mancinelli.

Mancinelli is going to stay another year in Europe to work on his game with Vujanic. Which is too bad. He might be better than Taylor.

I always hope that sarcasm doesn't get lost in a post....

Ummm... your post wasn't that subtle. But, apparently mine was.

Posted by fishmike:

Ira... regardless of win orlose this year, who would you rather see get minutes, Sweetney or Mo Taylor?

My name's not Ira, but I'll respond anyway. Sweetney, and I'm fine with the minute distribution we see now. Sweetney's starting and playing *more* minutes than you can say he's legitimately earned. Tell Sweetney he'll get more minutes, but they're not gonna be a gift. He has to earn them, first by losing weight.

I don't know, we've only seen butler in garbage time against the Celtics...you'd rather have him out there then Kurt or Rose?

Me thinks you want a lottery pick...if you start butler, not only are you garunteeing (I'm not in the mood to spell check) we don't make the playoffs...but you are alienating the players directly responsible for our turnaround.

Am I the only one noticing a Knick team with an identity? Toughness (mo t and rose).

Come on guys...wins are wins and contributors are contributors.

Mo is better than a second round pick, because he knows how to play.

Oh well...I guess it's going to be a stalemate until we are either eliminated or we make the playoffs.

Then the mo bashing will resume.

But you can say one thing...He's better than moochie and Vinnie, and the move allowed us to pick up a cbaer or two with the open roster spots.

Addition by subtraction.

How pages are we up to?

Posted by codeunknown:

His hash habit is a bad influence.

his hash habit? I don't know...I think he just needed a change of scenery. He seems intense on our team...much more than he was in Houston.

I'm confused, do we hate him as a player or do we hate him because of his contract?

I thought the big gripe was his contract...if it's him as a player, he's good, and getting better.

He's got more potential than Vinnie and Moochie combined.

You should probably stick to the roster flexibility argument, because based on the bloids, he's becoming the new darling of NYC.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-spknix254190278mar25,0,7414905.story?coll=ny-knicks-print

[Edited by - rvhoss on 03/25/2005 11:33:51]