martin wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:

martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:F Brunson tonight -- completely ignored Kat the entire game --- ignored...ignored...ignored.

While I'm at it he basically ignored the entire team and just did his thing.

Deuce - once again comes up small in big spot. Landry shat himself -- Mitch sleep walking on 1/2 his defensive possessions.

This one is on Brunson for dominating entire offense and for M-Brown for allowing it....just a disgrace.

I'll add this Hawks team is weak ass and could beat us --- why do we have Brunson guarding CJ entire night???

Agree with the bold. It really was bizarre. Almost like Isiah icing out MJ in the all star game. And granted Jalen started hitting shots late. but KAT was hitting them all night and he was a double after thought

Not sure what's up with McBride but he was a disaster tonight. He entered the game multiple times with big leads and coughed it up in minutes. He has no idea how to run a team, so if he's not hitting shots he shouldn't be out there. And Jose can't hit a shot period.

We will win the series but this is one that we got too cute.

I have no idea what's going on in Brunson's head but any objective analysis focuses on his being a ball hog as problem number 1

I can’t believe Deuce tried that oop to Mitch, nearly killed him and then Briwn quickly bench Deuce

I love Deuce but he's not a pg. he honestly has no idea what he's doing as a pg. he's a short 2 guard who is tough and can get hot shooting but he can't orchestrate. Jose isn't much better honestly but he does bring energy. Unfortunately tonight he probably got CJ fired up

Brown has to fix this. It would be too easy to say he should play Kolek who actually can pass guys open, but he's been on the pine so much since Jose showed up that would be a problem.

KAT needs to touch the ball. Jalen needs to get over himself just a smidge. Everything else should fall into place

What I don’t get is that the entire Knicks universe knows this and then we see Deuce Shamet Clarkson and Clarkson is in the corner while the other 2 guys are feeding the Hawks cross court passes.

How come Brown goes to this lineup? And the other 2 guys on the court? OG the fumbler and Mitch.

This one is truly on Brunson and Brown. They both were massive in their ineptitude.

Mind boggling to me

Especially Brunson. He is a smart guy. Last time he was talking about how important it was to get KAT going. It’s what ultimately deflates me: not even Brunson gets it? Then wth are we actually expecting? A whole season and they are still clueless. It’s very disappointing.

BlueKnickers wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:Trade Brunson and OG for Giannis

Keep KAT instead of Brunson

If a PG is going to be the main offensive weapon their name should be Magic Johnson or Oscar Robertson, big dudes who also played defense

I warned you all you may never win a championship with Brunson as your primary option

Our team are never consistent or cohesive under his leadership (or lack of so to speak)

This FO assembled a lot of talent, as much as any club in the NBA probably, but it does not mesh well

Our record is a testament to our talent, not our ability to perform as a collective

This was one of the worst losses I've seen from this team since the beginning of last season.

It is a real indicator of their lack of focus and lack of unity.

They are not a championship quality team, just a collection of quality pieces, nothing more.

The grass is always greener. If you're concern is having a black-hole on offense, Giannis is as bad as it gets. He's also incredibly bone-headed on that end of the flood and can't space the floor. Add to the fact his best years are behind him and it becomes an easy pass, unless he comes cheap.

Besides, the only reason we ever have hope is because of Brunson. I'd rather lose with him than win with a mercenary

How would a player who spent his whole career with one team now be a mercenary for choosing to play for another team?

Anyway, Giannis is one of the most efficient scoring options in the league and he makes your defense better. He's an MVP and a two-way player and even if he will hog the ball at times he is still not the PG and that's a good thing. You put any decent PG with good fundamentals next to him and you will see results.

I was talking in general. As much as Brunson got his start in DAL, I'll always view him as ours. Whenever he makes the HOF, he'll be remembered only as a Knick similar to how no one associates Allan Houston with the Pistons. I'm not willing to give up on that.

Also, Giannis could've been a Knick YEARS ago if he wanted. MIL has ALWAYS been incompetent during his tenure. From picking Jabari Parker, to overpaying Larry Sanders, to overpaying Greg Monroe, to overpaying Eric Bledsoe, to letting Malcolm Brogdon walk for nothing to avoid luxury tax, to screwing up every draft pick for a decade-plus....

Them winning a title was a minor miracle and built entirely on lucking into Khris Middleton and Jrue Holiday as running mates. He should've left years ago when he had the chance. Now, I wouldn't be willing to trade for him especially at cost. He had Dame Lillard and we saw how that went. The only PG that works with him is one that can live off ball but be elite defensively e.g. Jamal Murray, Keon Ellis, Ayo Dosunmo, Jrue Holiday, etc. Not too many of that archetype exists in the league, which is another reason why I'd be cautious about a Giannis pursuit. Dude can only put up MVP numbers for 30-55 games a year.

martin wrote:

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First real “Fire Brown” material here. Dumb is too nice to describe him.

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:Trade Brunson and OG for Giannis

Keep KAT instead of Brunson

If a PG is going to be the main offensive weapon their name should be Magic Johnson or Oscar Robertson, big dudes who also played defense

I warned you all you may never win a championship with Brunson as your primary option

Our team are never consistent or cohesive under his leadership (or lack of so to speak)

This FO assembled a lot of talent, as much as any club in the NBA probably, but it does not mesh well

Our record is a testament to our talent, not our ability to perform as a collective

This was one of the worst losses I've seen from this team since the beginning of last season.

It is a real indicator of their lack of focus and lack of unity.

They are not a championship quality team, just a collection of quality pieces, nothing more.

The grass is always greener. If you're concern is having a black-hole on offense, Giannis is as bad as it gets. He's also incredibly bone-headed on that end of the flood and can't space the floor. Add to the fact his best years are behind him and it becomes an easy pass, unless he comes cheap.

Besides, the only reason we ever have hope is because of Brunson. I'd rather lose with him than win with a mercenary

How would a player who spent his whole career with one team now be a mercenary for choosing to play for another team?

Anyway, Giannis is one of the most efficient scoring options in the league and he makes your defense better. He's an MVP and a two-way player and even if he will hog the ball at times he is still not the PG and that's a good thing. You put any decent PG with good fundamentals next to him and you will see results.

I was talking in general. As much as Brunson got his start in DAL, I'll always view him as ours. Whenever he makes the HOF, he'll be remembered only as a Knick similar to how no one associates Allan Houston with the Pistons. I'm not willing to give up on that.

Also, Giannis could've been a Knick YEARS ago if he wanted. MIL has ALWAYS been incompetent during his tenure. From picking Jabari Parker, to overpaying Larry Sanders, to overpaying Greg Monroe, to overpaying Eric Bledsoe, to letting Malcolm Brogdon walk for nothing to avoid luxury tax, to screwing up every draft pick for a decade-plus....

Them winning a title was a minor miracle and built entirely on lucking into Khris Middleton and Jrue Holiday as running mates. He should've left years ago when he had the chance. Now, I wouldn't be willing to trade for him especially at cost

Knicks never had the assets to get Giannis. They do now.

Philc1 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:Trade Brunson and OG for Giannis

Keep KAT instead of Brunson

If a PG is going to be the main offensive weapon their name should be Magic Johnson or Oscar Robertson, big dudes who also played defense

I warned you all you may never win a championship with Brunson as your primary option

Our team are never consistent or cohesive under his leadership (or lack of so to speak)

This FO assembled a lot of talent, as much as any club in the NBA probably, but it does not mesh well

Our record is a testament to our talent, not our ability to perform as a collective

This was one of the worst losses I've seen from this team since the beginning of last season.

It is a real indicator of their lack of focus and lack of unity.

They are not a championship quality team, just a collection of quality pieces, nothing more.

The grass is always greener. If you're concern is having a black-hole on offense, Giannis is as bad as it gets. He's also incredibly bone-headed on that end of the flood and can't space the floor. Add to the fact his best years are behind him and it becomes an easy pass, unless he comes cheap.

Besides, the only reason we ever have hope is because of Brunson. I'd rather lose with him than win with a mercenary

How would a player who spent his whole career with one team now be a mercenary for choosing to play for another team?

Anyway, Giannis is one of the most efficient scoring options in the league and he makes your defense better. He's an MVP and a two-way player and even if he will hog the ball at times he is still not the PG and that's a good thing. You put any decent PG with good fundamentals next to him and you will see results.

I was talking in general. As much as Brunson got his start in DAL, I'll always view him as ours. Whenever he makes the HOF, he'll be remembered only as a Knick similar to how no one associates Allan Houston with the Pistons. I'm not willing to give up on that.

Also, Giannis could've been a Knick YEARS ago if he wanted. MIL has ALWAYS been incompetent during his tenure. From picking Jabari Parker, to overpaying Larry Sanders, to overpaying Greg Monroe, to overpaying Eric Bledsoe, to letting Malcolm Brogdon walk for nothing to avoid luxury tax, to screwing up every draft pick for a decade-plus....

Them winning a title was a minor miracle and built entirely on lucking into Khris Middleton and Jrue Holiday as running mates. He should've left years ago when he had the chance. Now, I wouldn't be willing to trade for him especially at cost

Knicks never had the assets to get Giannis. They do now.

Cap space. Giannis could've walked but instead wanted to virtue-signal and wag his finger against guys that were proactive about their situations

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:Trade Brunson and OG for Giannis

Keep KAT instead of Brunson

If a PG is going to be the main offensive weapon their name should be Magic Johnson or Oscar Robertson, big dudes who also played defense

I warned you all you may never win a championship with Brunson as your primary option

Our team are never consistent or cohesive under his leadership (or lack of so to speak)

This FO assembled a lot of talent, as much as any club in the NBA probably, but it does not mesh well

Our record is a testament to our talent, not our ability to perform as a collective

This was one of the worst losses I've seen from this team since the beginning of last season.

It is a real indicator of their lack of focus and lack of unity.

They are not a championship quality team, just a collection of quality pieces, nothing more.

The grass is always greener. If you're concern is having a black-hole on offense, Giannis is as bad as it gets. He's also incredibly bone-headed on that end of the flood and can't space the floor. Add to the fact his best years are behind him and it becomes an easy pass, unless he comes cheap.

Besides, the only reason we ever have hope is because of Brunson. I'd rather lose with him than win with a mercenary

How would a player who spent his whole career with one team now be a mercenary for choosing to play for another team?

Anyway, Giannis is one of the most efficient scoring options in the league and he makes your defense better. He's an MVP and a two-way player and even if he will hog the ball at times he is still not the PG and that's a good thing. You put any decent PG with good fundamentals next to him and you will see results.

I was talking in general. As much as Brunson got his start in DAL, I'll always view him as ours. Whenever he makes the HOF, he'll be remembered only as a Knick similar to how no one associates Allan Houston with the Pistons. I'm not willing to give up on that.

Also, Giannis could've been a Knick YEARS ago if he wanted. MIL has ALWAYS been incompetent during his tenure. From picking Jabari Parker, to overpaying Larry Sanders, to overpaying Greg Monroe, to overpaying Eric Bledsoe, to letting Malcolm Brogdon walk for nothing to avoid luxury tax, to screwing up every draft pick for a decade-plus....

Them winning a title was a minor miracle and built entirely on lucking into Khris Middleton and Jrue Holiday as running mates. He should've left years ago when he had the chance. Now, I wouldn't be willing to trade for him especially at cost. He had Dame Lillard and we saw how that went. The only PG that works with him is one that can live off ball but be elite defensively e.g. Jamal Murray, Keon Ellis, Ayo Dosunmo, Jrue Holiday, etc. Not too many of that archetype exists in the league, which is another reason why I'd be cautious about a Giannis pursuit. Dude can only put up MVP numbers for 30-55 games a year.

Well, they did win a championship no matter how you characterize it, something the Knicks have not done for over half a century.

If anything, it shows Giannis in a good light if he could achieve that with the crew he had. That is the opposite of diminishing him, wouldn't you agree?

ToddTT wrote:

Top shelf titties does help with the pain.

NardDogNation wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

ToddTT wrote:If Trae hadn’t gotten traded we’d be in good shape right now.

Crazy times we're living in knowing that elderly CJ McCullom means more to winning than Trae Young

Trae Young was the sleazy CEO of Hair Club for Men

CJ McCollum is the barber buzzing a fade into the side your head that reads "Psych!"

I already called you a poet. At this point you're just showing off and putting us plebs to shame, lol.

Also, F Trae Young. Forever F Joel Embiid

I can't help it. Ever since the Re-Animator injected me with that jazzy green fluid of his I've looked like Herman Munster and talked like William Tupac Shakspur