Knixkik wrote:This is going to be a “boring” offseason for the Knicks. I expect them to bring back their top 8 players (Brunson, Randle, OG, Donte, hart, Hartenstein, Mitch and deuce) plus Sims on his cheap deal. Then it’s all about filling out the roster with draft picks and cheap help. I think the draft will be our busy time, then it will be a lowkey summer. Bogey is the biggest question mark. I think he’s either used in a deal prior to his full contract guarantee or the Knicks let him go. He’s very expensive and Knicks can easily avoid the first apron without him. They can simply retain both Burks and Achiuwa for less total dollars than bogey will cost to retain. Just a guess though. Maybe they don’t care. Either way it will be good to bring back this entire group plus hopefully have 2-3 rookies on the roster to watch develop, which this team needs. They have been excellent at drafting later in the draft (IQ, grimes, deuce, sims) when they have actually drafted. The culture is set and player development is there.

I would be okay with that. Granted we have a window to try net a guy before the cap becomes an issue. But looking around the league. I don't see the guy that's available to be had that is able to put us over the hump. Us completely healthy is a pretty damn good team.
9 man rotation:

IHart/Mitch
Randle/OG
OG/Bojan
DDV/Hart
Brunson/Mcbride

-I think Sims is out. Can get a player with better impact at the draft with more offensive upside. Plus need better coverage for Mitch injury issues.(Edey? Dickinson?)
-Need a Forward that can sit behind Bojan being groomed to take over for him after this season. Can slide in if Bojan becomes often inj at his age for next season.

newyorknewyork wrote:

Knixkik wrote:This is going to be a “boring” offseason for the Knicks. I expect them to bring back their top 8 players (Brunson, Randle, OG, Donte, hart, Hartenstein, Mitch and deuce) plus Sims on his cheap deal. Then it’s all about filling out the roster with draft picks and cheap help. I think the draft will be our busy time, then it will be a lowkey summer. Bogey is the biggest question mark. I think he’s either used in a deal prior to his full contract guarantee or the Knicks let him go. He’s very expensive and Knicks can easily avoid the first apron without him. They can simply retain both Burks and Achiuwa for less total dollars than bogey will cost to retain. Just a guess though. Maybe they don’t care. Either way it will be good to bring back this entire group plus hopefully have 2-3 rookies on the roster to watch develop, which this team needs. They have been excellent at drafting later in the draft (IQ, grimes, deuce, sims) when they have actually drafted. The culture is set and player development is there.

I would be okay with that. Granted we have a window to try net a guy before the cap becomes an issue. But looking around the league. I don't see the guy that's available to be had that is able to put us over the hump. Us completely healthy is a pretty damn good team.
9 man rotation:

IHart/Mitch
Randle/OG
OG/Bojan
DDV/Hart
Brunson/Mcbride

-I think Sims is out. Can get a player with better impact at the draft with more offensive upside. Plus need better coverage for Mitch injury issues.(Edey? Dickinson?)
-Need a Forward that can sit behind Bojan being groomed to take over for him after this season. Can slide in if Bojan becomes often inj at his age for next season.

Sims is cheap and was drafted by this group so I’d be surprised if they let him go. If they want center coverage, Edey, Ware or Holmes are all possibilities that might be there at 24/25. For a bogey replacement either now or in the future, Scheierman is an option as a backup wing shooter/ scorer.

nychamp wrote:Guy on WFAN right now proposing Knicks trade Bojan, 2 1st round picks, a 2nd rounder for Nikola Vucevic. Let Hartenstein walk. Resign OG. Thoughts?

Why do I never hear anything smart from WFAN? I don't listen to the radio but every clip from that station is so bad. Vucevic is the opposite of a Thibs player. He will never get time here.

Clean wrote:I was checking in on a Raptor forum and they were really worried about us for some reason. I started reading and they are thinking we could sign quick to an overpay contract with out MLE to either drive up the price for them or tofill out our backup PG.

It is something I never thought of but I doubt we do it. Quick was not really happy playing in a backup role. So sooner or later he will start to cause trouble for us.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Clean wrote:I was checking in on a Raptor forum and they were really worried about us for some reason. I started reading and they are thinking we could sign quick to an overpay contract with out MLE to either drive up the price for them or tofill out our backup PG.

It is something I never thought of but I doubt we do it. Quick was not really happy playing in a backup role. So sooner or later he will start to cause trouble for us.

Are we thinking he is only getting the MLE?

Anyone have any idea what the Mle would be this offseason? I am not even going to pretend I have any idea. If it is less than 30 a year no chance he would sign it.

Unless he's shown growth in the last 3 years, then maybe he's not really meant for this team.

Knixkik wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Knixkik wrote:This is going to be a “boring” offseason for the Knicks. I expect them to bring back their top 8 players (Brunson, Randle, OG, Donte, hart, Hartenstein, Mitch and deuce) plus Sims on his cheap deal. Then it’s all about filling out the roster with draft picks and cheap help. I think the draft will be our busy time, then it will be a lowkey summer. Bogey is the biggest question mark. I think he’s either used in a deal prior to his full contract guarantee or the Knicks let him go. He’s very expensive and Knicks can easily avoid the first apron without him. They can simply retain both Burks and Achiuwa for less total dollars than bogey will cost to retain. Just a guess though. Maybe they don’t care. Either way it will be good to bring back this entire group plus hopefully have 2-3 rookies on the roster to watch develop, which this team needs. They have been excellent at drafting later in the draft (IQ, grimes, deuce, sims) when they have actually drafted. The culture is set and player development is there.

I would be okay with that. Granted we have a window to try net a guy before the cap becomes an issue. But looking around the league. I don't see the guy that's available to be had that is able to put us over the hump. Us completely healthy is a pretty damn good team.
9 man rotation:

IHart/Mitch
Randle/OG
OG/Bojan
DDV/Hart
Brunson/Mcbride

-I think Sims is out. Can get a player with better impact at the draft with more offensive upside. Plus need better coverage for Mitch injury issues.(Edey? Dickinson?)
-Need a Forward that can sit behind Bojan being groomed to take over for him after this season. Can slide in if Bojan becomes often inj at his age for next season.

Sims is cheap and was drafted by this group so I’d be surprised if they let him go. If they want center coverage, Edey, Ware or Holmes are all possibilities that might be there at 24/25. For a bogey replacement either now or in the future, Scheierman is an option as a backup wing shooter/ scorer.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Clean wrote:I was checking in on a Raptor forum and they were really worried about us for some reason. I started reading and they are thinking we could sign quick to an overpay contract with out MLE to either drive up the price for them or tofill out our backup PG.

It is something I never thought of but I doubt we do it. Quick was not really happy playing in a backup role. So sooner or later he will start to cause trouble for us.

Are we thinking he is only getting the MLE?

I think IQ can get more on the open market. There’s a lot of respect out there for him

Philc1 wrote:

Clean wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Clean wrote:I was checking in on a Raptor forum and they were really worried about us for some reason. I started reading and they are thinking we could sign quick to an overpay contract with out MLE to either drive up the price for them or tofill out our backup PG.

It is something I never thought of but I doubt we do it. Quick was not really happy playing in a backup role. So sooner or later he will start to cause trouble for us.

Are we thinking he is only getting the MLE?

Anyone have any idea what the Mle would be this offseason? I am not even going to pretend I have any idea. If it is less than 30 a year no chance he would sign it.

It’s going to be around $13 mil for the first season of the contract to go on for 4 years total with 5% salary increases. The crazy new nba tv contract may change that though

Won't be any big changes with the new contract because the players have already agreed to limit the year on year increase to 10%. This is because during the last jump a lot of guys who hit free agency that year, like Mozgov, signed huge deals while the guys who hit the year before or later got screwed.

The only guys it makes a big difference for are max guys who get paid a percentage of the cap rather than a guaranteed amount. Those guys will see 10% raises going forward.

I'm not sure what happens with the extra money. I imagine it's held in escrow. It's possible that between organic growth and the new contracts, there's a 10% increase every year going forward.