I’m sure it’s frustrating for Toppin & Robinson. They have some many easy buckets lost because guys force shots.

RJ had two sequences when he forced a shot got blocked and got it back and took at terrible rushed three pointer that led to two transition baskets.

Toppin is to focused on fitting in. He needs to look at Hart out there who bullies his way to points.

Great team win, hopefully this forces Thibs to understand the iso takes away from strengths of grimes, iq, Hart times two and Obi. You can speed the game up and force the other team to play multiple paces.

And when RJ doesn’t have it, he needs to be benched. We’ve watched that stupid ****ing drive into 3 people too long.

Clean wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

VDesai wrote:Still wrapping my brain around how good the Knicks are offensively. Showtime Hartenstein is something

Ball movement. Without Julius ball moves. Obi helps with that greatly

Randle is too slow with the ball in every way. In transition he is slow and in ISO with decision making. Obi won't get you 57 because that is not his game. He is not going to dominate the ball. He will move the ball if he has nothing. The ball movement and player movement is why this team was so hard to guard. The Cavs had no idea who was going to get the ball.

With Randle it is easy to guard. Throw a double at him when he turns his back or when he dribbles then play the passing lanes. Randle will get his number from all the touches he will get but he is inefficient so you will win those battles more often than not unless he is just hot like in Miami.

With Obi you can't plan for him and the team because whoever is open gets the ball. Not only that you now have to account for Obi in transition. This opens up the offensive rebounding for the Hart brothers and Mitch. With Obi it is not about raw numbers because he will never dominate the ball to get consistent high points. He will also have low rebounds usually because he leaks out on transition. Listen to what D Mitch had to say about why they gave up so many rebounds. This is also why Obi who is always one of the nicest people gets pissed when people miss him on cuts and leak outs. Just like how I was pissed when we were not using IHarts passing before. This is their specialty. If you are not using it they are severely limited in their contributions.

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WOW - Mitchell see’s it clear as day - somewhat damning for Julius who does this when he wants. When Jules is running/attacking he is a load.

He see’s it but like Julius Thibs M.O. is to blindly support Jules/RJ with the hope they will perform for him….not every player receives this allowance from Thibs.

Thing is - I think Thibs is already done with RJ he just hasn’t told anyone yet.

ToddTT wrote:Obi in the postgame…

“All I said was… The court is 94 feet long. Not long enough for RJ.”

He also said he wasn’t worried if RJ would take a swing at him. “I’m pretty sure he’d miss.”

Hahahahahahahaha

Obi didnt do much as far as creating his own shot. But this was the best I watched him move without the ball in a long time. Beats camping in the corner.

ToddTT wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

ToddTT wrote:Obi in the postgame…

“All I said was… The court is 94 feet long. Not long enough for RJ.”

He also said he wasn’t worried if RJ would take a swing at him. “I’m pretty sure he’d miss.”

Did he really say this — I didn’t get any post game. What time did this happen in game?

Sorry LL, this was fan fiction on my part. I wish I knew what the argument was about though. I hope it was nothing that lingers.

Ok - was thinking damn Obi going in.

MS wrote:Honestly Barrett has been doing this **** all season long.

I’m sure it’s frustrating for Toppin & Robinson. They have some many easy buckets lost because guys force shots.

RJ had two sequences when he forced a shot got blocked and got it back and took at terrible rushed three pointer that led to two transition baskets.

Toppin is to focused on fitting in. He needs to look at Hart out there who bullies his way to points.

Great team win, hopefully this forces Thibs to understand the iso takes away from strengths of grimes, iq, Hart times two and Obi. You can speed the game up and force the other team to play multiple paces.

And when RJ doesn’t have it, he needs to be benched. We’ve watched that stupid ****ing drive into 3 people too long.

Not sure my tv can take any more abusive language from me every time RJ commits another harebrained turnover or idiotic shot. Something is off in his head and it's unclear if he can resolve it in NY.

LivingLegend wrote:

Clean wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

VDesai wrote:Still wrapping my brain around how good the Knicks are offensively. Showtime Hartenstein is something

Ball movement. Without Julius ball moves. Obi helps with that greatly

Randle is too slow with the ball in every way. In transition he is slow and in ISO with decision making. Obi won't get you 57 because that is not his game. He is not going to dominate the ball. He will move the ball if he has nothing. The ball movement and player movement is why this team was so hard to guard. The Cavs had no idea who was going to get the ball.

With Randle it is easy to guard. Throw a double at him when he turns his back or when he dribbles then play the passing lanes. Randle will get his number from all the touches he will get but he is inefficient so you will win those battles more often than not unless he is just hot like in Miami.

With Obi you can't plan for him and the team because whoever is open gets the ball. Not only that you now have to account for Obi in transition. This opens up the offensive rebounding for the Hart brothers and Mitch. With Obi it is not about raw numbers because he will never dominate the ball to get consistent high points. He will also have low rebounds usually because he leaks out on transition. Listen to what D Mitch had to say about why they gave up so many rebounds. This is also why Obi who is always one of the nicest people gets pissed when people miss him on cuts and leak outs. Just like how I was pissed when we were not using IHarts passing before. This is their specialty. If you are not using it they are severely limited in their contributions.

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https://twitter.com/NBA_NewYork/status/1642112828600451072

WOW - Mitchell see’s it clear as day - somewhat damning for Julius who does this when he wants. When Jules is running/attacking he is a load.

Pretty obvious that a lineup without Randle, who is more of a half court set player, is going to have more transition. Same would be true of any team with a similar half court star. Mavs would probably run more without Luka in the lineup. Which they did when JB was playing for them when he was hurt. Not much of a knock. Sure DM is not saying he would rather face the Knicks with Randle.
In terms of ball movement JB had 36 shots. IQ and RJ 33. Most not off ball movement. So...

Knowledgeable fans understand how a playoff series is different than a regular season game. Teams put together schemes to stop top players. Despite some celebrating the positives of a Randleless team, they should understand that teams are stronger with multiple seasoned stars to contend with. Without Randle, Cavs will look to stop JB and probably IQ. Will force the ball out of their hands and let others, who are not accustomed to carrying the load, to beat them. JB for 50 in multiple games will be a tough ask. But gotta say, if Randle is not able to go in the playoffs, like our chances. Especially if we play like we did yesterday..

Great win. Loved the cohivsiveness and the play from KB, JHart, IQ and IHart.

gradyandrew wrote:Is Thibs playing a rope a dope game? Seems like the past three victories have followed the same script of both teams running wild on offense for 3 quarters before he unleashes the Kraken defense in the 4th.

martin wrote:Not for the feint of heart

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A game we win with all his blunders. I took the bait.
I have no explanation but curious if he has an issue. Its not a detriment to winning but its not a good look.