knicks1248 wrote:7 Turnovers for Randle,

That almost overshadow his solid performance

No it doesn't. Most of those turnovers came because of passing and trying too hard to distribute.

His effort was 100% and his production was awesome.

24 points.
9 rebounds.
5 assists.
FG 8/15 (.533%).
3PT 3/7 (.429%).
FT 5/6 (.833%).

But yeah. Right. Lets let turnovers overshadow his performance.

That's like me being petty and nitpicking RJs 9/24 shooting despite his 28 points, 14 rebounds, 6 assists and 1 block while only focusing on his not so good 9/24 shooting.

martin wrote:Man, RJ played the whole second half?

I'm not sure but RJ played 42 minutes and Julius 40.

I don't think that's too smart with a back to back coming tomorrow @ Cleveland for a big time Eastern Conference game.

Would've liked to see our bench unit get more playing time today in order to keep our starters fresh for tomorrow.

RJ was a monster with 28/14/6 and a key block on Zubac. IQ also had a nice game running the team. That bounce pass that led to Randle's dunk was one of the best of passes of his career. Getting Noel back is huge. If we're going to make a run and duplicate what we did last season, we need Noel and Rose back. Both add components nobody else on the roster can provide. Noel is a true anchor defensively. But I feel bad for Mitch,. Kid is made of glass. Everytime he's starting to hit his niche and play well, he hurts something. I'm iffy because of this on signing him long term. Durability is very important. Reddish did OK.

Enjoying this one cause this road trip is bound to be painful and frustrating. I'd settle for going 1-2 tbh.

blkexec wrote:You clearly see when Mitch is out, the Clippers started getting Offensive Rebounds. While Mitch was playing, Clippers had zero.

But I also love the back taps from Noel and Taj. All 3 guys play a part. Taj is the grandpa of the group, but that level of leadership is needed for Mitch. Noel is very agile and great at PnR defense.

But the star of the show is definitely RJ Barrett. And it's clear he knows this. It's his time to shine. Not sure what we going to do when it's time to pay RJ and Mitch, but lets hope for consistency in this second half of the season.

This is one reason I think the Knicks would be active in moving Randle if the price is right. RJ becomes the focal point and the Knicks can completely embrace better ball movement and less ISO.

martin wrote:

blkexec wrote:You clearly see when Mitch is out, the Clippers started getting Offensive Rebounds. While Mitch was playing, Clippers had zero.

But I also love the back taps from Noel and Taj. All 3 guys play a part. Taj is the grandpa of the group, but that level of leadership is needed for Mitch. Noel is very agile and great at PnR defense.

But the star of the show is definitely RJ Barrett. And it's clear he knows this. It's his time to shine. Not sure what we going to do when it's time to pay RJ and Mitch, but lets hope for consistency in this second half of the season.

This is one reason I think the Knicks would be active in moving Randle if the price is right. RJ becomes the focal point and the Knicks can completely embrace better ball movement and less ISO.

Working late tonight so I had a chance to watch and listen to the 70s championship years and how they made a trade that helped reed and made Clyde a full time starter. I believe these Knicks are in a similar position to make a few trades to clear up the rotation issues and style of play.

I don’t mind the iso plays. The problem is Randle is not the best iso player. And he has a problem with identifying double teams or how to overcome them without turning the ball over. But he can learn that. What he will continue to struggle with is his default iso plays he seems to go to in crunch time. He’s been mentored by Kobe and AD which is the problem because he’s not on their level right now.

But trading Kemba and allowing IQ to be the full time starter will help this team and help IQs development. Trading Randle and allowing RJ to lead this team is also a move I would consider. The problem is I’m not sure who I would rather have or who’s available that will fit this system and allow RJ to blossom. Or do you trade him for picks? No clue. But removing Randle might be an addition by subtraction move.

blkexec wrote:

martin wrote:

blkexec wrote:You clearly see when Mitch is out, the Clippers started getting Offensive Rebounds. While Mitch was playing, Clippers had zero.

But I also love the back taps from Noel and Taj. All 3 guys play a part. Taj is the grandpa of the group, but that level of leadership is needed for Mitch. Noel is very agile and great at PnR defense.

But the star of the show is definitely RJ Barrett. And it's clear he knows this. It's his time to shine. Not sure what we going to do when it's time to pay RJ and Mitch, but lets hope for consistency in this second half of the season.

This is one reason I think the Knicks would be active in moving Randle if the price is right. RJ becomes the focal point and the Knicks can completely embrace better ball movement and less ISO.

Working late tonight so I had a chance to watch and listen to the 70s championship years and how they made a trade that helped reed and made Clyde a full time starter. I believe these Knicks are in a similar position to make a few trades to clear up the rotation issues and style of play.

I don’t mind the iso plays. The problem is Randle is not the best iso player. And he has a problem with identifying double teams or how to overcome them without turning the ball over. But he can learn that. What he will continue to struggle with is his default iso plays he seems to go to in crunch time. He’s been mentored by Kobe and AD which is the problem because he’s not on their level right now.

But trading Kemba and allowing IQ to be the full time starter will help this team and help IQs development. Trading Randle and allowing RJ to lead this team is also a move I would consider. The problem is I’m not sure who I would rather have or who’s available that will fit this system and allow RJ to blossom. Or do you trade him for picks? No clue. But removing Randle might be an addition by subtraction move.

I think that question is what the Knicks have asked themselves over and over again. Is he a learner? The TOs and it’s now year 3 in which Randle has not shown the ability to adjust to double teams and decision making. And the propensity to rely on ISO even when it’s not needed is the key. Randle was glorious last year and mostly that had to do with his shot making from everywhere.

Every high level team definitely needs on ISO guy or even 2. Don’t think that Randle is reliable enough in that capacity, he most likely has topped out, just can’t see the double team and he meanders too much with ball.

knicks1248 wrote:7 Turnovers for Randle,

That almost overshadow his solid performance

Awesome!